Syndel 1 Posted April 6, 2012 Ok, I have a theory about where Lea may have went. As we know Lea/Axel was a part of the Organization for quiet a while and used the Corridors of Darkness a lot. Well what if Yen Sid sent Lea to go and retrieve Master Aqua from the Realm of Darkness? Master Aqua is the only person who will be able to navigate Castle Oblivion to find Ventus which would round out the 7 Guardians of Light. I can only imagine Sora could help her in this acting like a living Ven detector, which would make a good opening level for KH3. I think Yen Sid would have known about the "trick" of the Land of Departure turning into Castle Oblivion and knowing they would need Aqua to find Ventus in The Room of Awakening. Lea having all of Axel's memories may have allowed him to travel in the realm of Darkness or use the corridors like Riku. But its just a theory. Also here is my list for the Guardians and Seekers tell me what you think. Light 1- Master Mickey - fearless leader 2- Master Aqua - ruler of Land of Departure 3- Master Riku - newly made Master 4- Kairi - Riku/Yen Sid pupil/ Princess of Heart 5- Lea - Nobody turned Somebody with a Keyblade 6- Ventus - recently woken up 7- Sora - our favorite hero returned Dark 1- Master Xehanort 2- Young Xehanort 3- Terra-Xehanort 4- Ansem SoD 5- Xemnas 6- Xigbar/Braig 7- Isa/Saix The other six darks aren't the other apprentices because they woke up, maybe the rest of the Organization. Even thought the prospect of a Marluxia/Xehanort hybrid scares me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akihiko 1,628 Posted April 6, 2012 I think that instead of Terranort, he would pick Apprentice Xehanort, because Terra was still resisting when he was Terranort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Ok, I have a theory about where Lea may have went. As we know Lea/Axel was a part of the Organization for quiet a while and used the Corridors of Darkness a lot. Well what if Yen Sid sent Lea to go and retrieve Master Aqua from the Realm of Darkness? Master Aqua is the only person who will be able to navigate Castle Oblivion to find Ventus which would round out the 7 Guardians of Light. I can only imagine Sora could help her in this acting like a living Ven detector, which would make a good opening level for KH3. I think Yen Sid would have known about the "trick" of the Land of Departure turning into Castle Oblivion and knowing they would need Aqua to find Ventus in The Room of Awakening. Lea having all of Axel's memories may have allowed him to travel in the realm of Darkness or use the corridors like Riku. But its just a theory. Also here is my list for the Guardians and Seekers tell me what you think. Light 1- Master Mickey - fearless leader 2- Master Aqua - ruler of Land of Departure 3- Master Riku - newly made Master 4- Kairi - Riku/Yen Sid pupil/ Princess of Heart 5- Lea - Nobody turned Somebody with a Keyblade 6- Ventus - recently woken up 7- Sora - our favorite hero returned Dark 1- Master Xehanort 2- Young Xehanort 3- Terra-Xehanort 4- Ansem SoD 5- Xemnas 6- Xigbar/Braig 7- Isa/Saix The other six darks aren't the other apprentices because they woke up, maybe the rest of the Organization. Even thought the prospect of a Marluxia/Xehanort hybrid scares me. If Yen Sid were to send someone off to get Aqua it would be Riku or Mickey. They are already masters, why would he send in a rookie keyblade wielder to save Aqua. She's a Keyblade Master and she can't even get out herself. It would be less of a risk if Riku or Mickey or both did it. I know she doesn't have a keyblade atm, but she still has magic, I'm pretty sure. That means it must take a whole deal of strength/strength of heart to find a way out. Ex: Via Kairi's Letter or maybe Riku's newly acquired 3D power He would obviously train Lea and Kairi or have them train and not do anything big. Lea probably went to Radiant Garden either to recruit the other Organization 13 members not in Xehanort's grasp or just to warn them. After all it is his home world. The list looks like everyone else's list lol. Nothing new there. Edited April 6, 2012 by StrongHeart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrownKeeper13 688 Posted April 6, 2012 That sounds pretty logical. However, in the opening of KH3D, you can see the 7 lights Terra, Aqua, Ven, Sora, Riku, King Mickey, and Roxas. But as far as having to save Aqua first, that seems very likely. Once she finds Ven and wakes him up, they can save Terra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdeaKramer 32 Posted April 6, 2012 Yen Sid wouldn't let Lea do it alone, he is just a pupil it is most certain that he will send a few people to search for Aqua but I'm sure Mickey will be one of them because he knew Aqua quite good as for the other 6 norts I think Vanitas will be one (took from the bbs TL) and strangely Ansem the Wise has the Xehanort "trademark", the golden eyes.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bosh104 51 Posted April 6, 2012 If Yen Sid were to send someone off to get Aqua it would be Riku or Mickey. They are already masters, why would he send in a rookie keyblade wielder to save Aqua. She's a Keyblade Master and she can't even get out herself. It would be less of a risk if Riku or Mickey or both did it. I know she doesn't have a keyblade atm, but she still has magic, I'm pretty sure. That means it must take a whole deal of strength/strength of heart to find a way out. Ex: Via Kairi's Letter or maybe Riku's newly acquired 3D power He would obviously train Lea and Kairi or have them train and not do anything big. Lea probably went to Radiant Garden either to recruit the other Organization 13 members not in Xehanort's grasp or just to warn them. After all it is his home world. The list looks like everyone else's list lol. Nothing new there. Doesn't Aqua have Master Eraqus' keyblade? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 Doesn't Aqua have Master Eraqus' keyblade? She did when she fought Red Eyes but didn't Terra's and Ven's keyblade save her from darksides when she was all alone? Anyways no matter the case, she can't get out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) That sounds pretty logical. However, in the opening of KH3D, you can see the 7 lights Terra, Aqua, Ven, Sora, Riku, King Mickey, and Roxas. But as far as having to save Aqua first, that seems very likely. Once she finds Ven and wakes him up, they can save Terra. Who said they were the 7 LIGHTS? This is just an opinion a lot of people have. It's a speculation What if Nomura did that because those are the only playable characters in the series so far that have a storyline to themselves? Exactly. Just because they were shown all together as 7 not to mention Donald and Goofy were there doesn't mean they are the 7 lights. Stop spreading bull that haven't been confirmed yet. The least you could do is say "I think" before it or "It's probably." Edited April 6, 2012 by StrongHeart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted April 6, 2012 Yen Sid wouldn't let Lea do it alone, he is just a pupil it is most certain that he will send a few people to search for Aqua but I'm sure Mickey will be one of them because he knew Aqua quite good as for the other 6 norts I think Vanitas will be one (took from the bbs TL) and strangely Ansem the Wise has the Xehanort "trademark", the golden eyes.. Yeah, I was a little creeped out looking at those eyes in the bonus cutscene. They're more orange than the Xehanort trademark color, but they're still very striking, and he seemed to look at Xigbar and Xehanort too long...I think it might explain the Ansem Reports from KH1 a little more if he was being controlled by Xehanort at some point. I also have a weak theory that Terra's related to him somehow (Terra was all: No matter what the cost, I'll defeat you! and Ansem has a very particular hatred for Organization XIII...) Also, didn't they show Ven looking like he was waking up at the end? (maybe he didn't really, idk.) And Aqua...the light within the darkness...they might send Lea, since he can use Corridors of darkness. We aren't really sure how or when he got his keyblade, so it's possible he's not just a novice...he and Saix were plotting against the Organization since the beginning, for all we know they're keyblade masters! But that's probably unlikely, he probably got it from Roxas or something like that... She did when she fought Red Eyes but didn't Terra's and Ven's keyblade save her from darksides when she was all alone? Anyways no matter the case, she can't get out. SHe had her (well, Master Eraqus' and now hers) keyblade out, then as two more darksides popped up she said "oh screw this I hate hte realm of darkness" and put it away. She was just going to give up and let them destroy her. That's when Ven and TErra's keyblades came to save her; it gave her hope to keep moving on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrownKeeper13 688 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Who said they were the 7 LIGHTS? This is just an opinion a lot of people have. It's a speculation What if Nomura did that because those are the only playable characters in the series so far that have a storyline to themselves? Exactly. Just because they were shown all together as 7 not to mention Donald and Goofy were there doesn't mean they are the 7 lights. Stop spreading bull that haven't been confirmed yet. The least you could do is say "I think" before it or "It's probably." Uh, Master Xehanort said there were 7 lights after Riku fights Young Xehanort. It's not speculation, it's been confirmed. And in the secret ending, Yen Sid tell the King that he needs to gather 7 lights. This is also a reference to the Princesses of Heart. Edited April 6, 2012 by CrownKeeper13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spencer Ellis Norman 63 Posted April 6, 2012 i think lea could do it alone without a keyblade, think about it. thats all he did was mow through heartless on Days, and dont underestimate him, if Roxas can take out a Darkside im most positive Lea could also, alone. Hes pretty powerful, he probably could get Aqua but i dont think theyd send him, he doesnt even know her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyace 65 75 Posted April 6, 2012 i think lea could do it alone without a keyblade, think about it. thats all he did was mow through heartless on Days, and dont underestimate him, if Roxas can take out a Darkside im most positive Lea could also, alone. Hes pretty powerful, he probably could get Aqua but i dont think theyd send him, he doesnt even know her. while he's experienced they know just how dangerous the dark realm is just from when they closed the door to kingdom hearts, which i still fully dont understand with it being in or out of the dark realm. but either way they know its a dangerous place, Lea would probobly go in with Micky since aqua can trust him, plus Lea should know his way around the dark realm as some people in the organization went there from what we can see in 365/2 with roxas and Xehanort talking at the shores Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 Uh, Master Xehanort said there were 7 lights after Riku fights Young Xehanort. It's not speculation, it's been confirmed. And in the secret ending, Yen Sid tell the King that he needs to gather 7 lights. This is also a reference to the Princesses of Heart. What's been confirmed? That there are 7 lights? Yes everyone who has been watching knows that. Master Xehanort says there are 7 but he doesn't say who they are and the secret ending just tells us more about it. So yes, 7 lights have been confirmed. No, the 7 keyblade wielders from the KH3D intro have not been confirmed to be the 7 lights. Get your facts straight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bosh104 51 Posted April 6, 2012 She did when she fought Red Eyes but didn't Terra's and Ven's keyblade save her from darksides when she was all alone? Anyways no matter the case, she can't get out. That seemed more like because she gave up hope and chose not to draw Eraqus' keyblade and fight, not that she lost the Keyblade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrownKeeper13 688 Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) What's been confirmed? That there are 7 lights? Yes everyone who has been watching knows that. Master Xehanort says there are 7 but he doesn't say who they are and the secret ending just tells us more about it. So yes, 7 lights have been confirmed. No, the 7 keyblade wielders from the KH3D intro have not been confirmed to be the 7 lights. Get your facts straight. My facts are straight. If it's not the 7 keyblade wielders of light who are shown in the foreshadowing part of the opening of DDD, then who are they? Edited April 7, 2012 by CrownKeeper13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Xehanort1690 39 Posted April 7, 2012 If Yen Sid sends anybody to save Aqua then it'll most likely be Riku or Mickey. Lea just got his keyblade and this no slight against him, but he's just a novice with it. Riku and Mickey have had tons of experience and are masters. They've also both been in the realm of darkness, so it would make much more sense to send one of those two to save Aqua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) My facts are straight. If it's not the 7 keyblade wielders of light who are shown in the foreshadowing part of the opening of DDD, then who are they? I just said it. Just because they were shown in the beginning of KH3D doesn't mean they are the 7 lights. There is no direct correlation between them. People just think that. Also no one said that was a foreshadowing, it could be and it could be not. And plus Terra is being used as a vessel for one of the Xehanorts. This is confirmed when Xehanort is talking to Mickey about the lights and Mickey counts 6 only and Xehanort says one of them is already being used as a vessel and Sora will become the 13th one (which didn't happen). The 6 mickey counted are as follows. Aqua is in the RoD. Ven is in CO. Riku was there Mickey was there. Sora, who was about to be turned to a vessel And that leaves Terra, which means he was already a vessel for Xehanort. So Terra is one of the 13 darkness. Don't be ignorant. You can't put two things together just because it's convenient and it's straight in the face. Nomura does this a lot and people make the wrong predictions. So the point is KH3D Opening might just be a promo for the characters that have been used for main story lines Ex: Sora Donald Goofy in all the Numbered Games + CoM (Sora by himself in Re:Coded and 3D) Riku and Mickey for CoM (Riku by himself in 3D) Roxas for 358/2 Days Aqua, Ven, Terra for BbS Mickey (First player, you did get to use him and he was key to the main story line) in KH2 He might've just shown the familiar faces to get you excited to play it when watching it the first time. See, there is an explanation for it that has nothing to do with the lights, they were just playable (main characters) that had a story line. BTW I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right, I am just saying it's SPECULATION and CAN'T BE PROVEN UNTIL SQUARE OR NOMURA HIMSELF says so. SPECULATION NOT FACT! And Imo, and the other half of people who speculate believe it's Sora Mickey Riku Lea Kairi Aqua Ven Edited April 7, 2012 by StrongHeart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nafees Rahman 35 Posted April 7, 2012 Ok, I have a theory about where Lea may have went. As we know Lea/Axel was a part of the Organization for quiet a while and used the Corridors of Darkness a lot. Well what if Yen Sid sent Lea to go and retrieve Master Aqua from the Realm of Darkness? Master Aqua is the only person who will be able to navigate Castle Oblivion to find Ventus which would round out the 7 Guardians of Light. I can only imagine Sora could help her in this acting like a living Ven detector, which would make a good opening level for KH3. I think Yen Sid would have known about the "trick" of the Land of Departure turning into Castle Oblivion and knowing they would need Aqua to find Ventus in The Room of Awakening. Lea having all of Axel's memories may have allowed him to travel in the realm of Darkness or use the corridors like Riku. But its just a theory. Also here is my list for the Guardians and Seekers tell me what you think. Light 1- Master Mickey - fearless leader 2- Master Aqua - ruler of Land of Departure 3- Master Riku - newly made Master 4- Kairi - Riku/Yen Sid pupil/ Princess of Heart 5- Lea - Nobody turned Somebody with a Keyblade 6- Ventus - recently woken up 7- Sora - our favorite hero returned Dark 1- Master Xehanort 2- Young Xehanort 3- Terra-Xehanort 4- Ansem SoD 5- Xemnas 6- Xigbar/Braig 7- Isa/Saix The other six darks aren't the other apprentices because they woke up, maybe the rest of the Organization. Even thought the prospect of a Marluxia/Xehanort hybrid scares me. What about Roxas or Xion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 7, 2012 What about Roxas or Xion? Inside Sora bro.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nafees Rahman 35 Posted April 7, 2012 Inside Sora bro.... Dude they are gonna probably take roxas out somehow I bet it I mean hes to epic They might make a fake body but anything possible did we expect a time traveling xehanort or a new orginization 13? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 7, 2012 Dude they are gonna probably take roxas out somehow I bet it I mean hes to epic They might make a fake body but anything possible did we expect a time traveling xehanort or a new orginization 13? It's not a body he needs it's his own heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nafees Rahman 35 Posted April 7, 2012 It's not a body he needs it's his own heart. Remember xemnas lied to them saying that they didnt have hearts when they all actually did casting the into darkness for vessels? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Remember xemnas lied to them saying that they didnt have hearts when they all actually did casting the into darkness for vessels? They didn't have hearts, they had the capacity to grow one. Edited April 7, 2012 by StrongHeart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syndel 1 Posted April 7, 2012 What about Roxas or Xion? The reason I didn't include Roxas or Xion is because they are a part of Sora already. In Kh 3D there is a cutscene where Roxas says to Sora it has to be him, that Roxas is a part of Sora and not his own person. Basically a final acceptance of his being a Nobody, what I think will happen is that Ven will be Roxas basically. He will have Roxas's memories kinda like how Lea has Axel's. I really believe the reason why Roxas could show emotion is because he had Ven's heart or a part of it. And Xion fused with Roxas fused with Sora so, other than the nod we got from a cutscene in 3D I don't think we're gonna see much more of her. Each one of the ones I've listed has a legitimate plot based reason for being there, and I think that's gonna be a big part of KH3 is filling in plot holes and sewing up the plot in a enjoyable way for the players. 1 Nafees Rahman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nafees Rahman 35 Posted April 7, 2012 They didn't have hearts, they had the capacity to grow one. It seems that Roxas had one since he cried and got pissed off.... The reason I didn't include Roxas or Xion is because they are a part of Sora already. In Kh 3D there is a cutscene where Roxas says to Sora it has to be him, that Roxas is a part of Sora and not his own person. Basically a final acceptance of his being a Nobody, what I think will happen is that Ven will be Roxas basically. He will have Roxas's memories kinda like how Lea has Axel's. I really believe the reason why Roxas could show emotion is because he had Ven's heart or a part of it. And Xion fused with Roxas fused with Sora so, other than the nod we got from a cutscene in 3D I don't think we're gonna see much more of her. Each one of the ones I've listed has a legitimate plot based reason for being there, and I think that's gonna be a big part of KH3 is filling in plot holes and sewing up the plot in a enjoyable way for the players. Yeah I kinda thought that ven will have some roxas in him too .__. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites