woolfman1994 19 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. Edited April 6, 2012 by woolfman1994 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yang 1,859 Posted April 6, 2012 I agree with you. So, do I just not post? Well, can't do that, already started. . . wow, this is embarrassing. . . :I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. Sora got Ven's heart. Riku's heart fell to darkness and the keyblade picked the closest worthy heart which was Sora. It picked him because of his strong heart. This could have been influenced by him having Ven's heart. When Sora temporarily loses his keyblade in KH1 he has to get it back from Riku and then he stabs himself near the end of Hollow Bastion. When he turns into a heartless, Roxas was "born". Roxas then takes Ven's heart that's why he looks so much like him. By doing so, Sora learned how to wield a keyblade without Ven's heart. In my opinion until after Hollow Bastion, Sora did not know how to hold a keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. I have had this debate like 7 xs in the past few days with people who insist that Sora can only wield bc of Ven..Its actually pretty sad there are soo many who still dont know the truth.Then ,after informing them they still try arguing they are right .As for Lea we dont know yet why he went back or how long he would be there so he could still very well be one . 2 woolfman1994 and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 6, 2012 Sora got Ven's heart. Riku's heart fell to darkness and the keyblade picked the closest worthy heart which was Sora. It picked him because of his strong heart. This could have been influenced by him having Ven's heart. When Sora temporarily loses his keyblade in KH1 he has to get it back from Riku and then he stabs himself near the end of Hollow Bastion. When he turns into a heartless, Roxas was "born". Roxas then takes Ven's heart that's why he looks so much like him. By doing so, Sora learned how to wield a keyblade without Ven's heart. In my opinion until after Hollow Bastion, Sora did not know how to hold a keyblade. The way sora held a keyblade didnt change after Roxas was born though.. so im a little confused about what you mean. But yeah the rest I already knew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 6, 2012 I have had this debate like 7 xs in the past few days with people who insist that Sora can only wield bc of Ven..Its actually pretty sad there are soo many who still dont know the truth.Then ,after informing them they still try arguing they are right .As for Lea we dont know yet why he went back or how long he would be there so he could still very well be one . And I dont think they will fully realize this untill KH3 and then there will be like 100 new topics like how is sora still able to use the keyblade?! ugh. Anyway I just thought the way Mickey said it he didnt seem like Lea was coming back anytime soon as far as what I understood. But who knows for right now. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 The way sora held a keyblade didnt change after Roxas was born though.. so im a little confused about what you mean. But yeah the rest I already knew. The way its held has nothing to do with it. If Roxas took had taken Ven's heart, Sora had to have learned how to wield it on his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 And I dont think they will fully realize this untill KH3 and then there will be like 100 new topics like how is sora still able to use the keyblade?! ugh. Anyway I just thought the way Mickey said it he didnt seem like Lea was coming back anytime soon as far as what I understood. But who knows for right now. Personally i think Lea went back to inform the revived apprentices of the real deal with MX and also to gather info in Ansems study.Who knows, the apprentices could be asked to join in the fight against MX since he duped and used them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Sora got Ven's heart. Riku's heart fell to darkness and the keyblade picked the closest worthy heart which was Sora. It picked him because of his strong heart. This could have been influenced by him having Ven's heart. When Sora temporarily loses his keyblade in KH1 he has to get it back from Riku and then he stabs himself near the end of Hollow Bastion. When he turns into a heartless, Roxas was "born". Roxas then takes Ven's heart that's why he looks so much like him. By doing so, Sora learned how to wield a keyblade without Ven's heart. In my opinion until after Hollow Bastion, Sora did not know how to hold a keyblade. When Sora was a heartless or walking heart he still used the keyblade without Ven.He didnt need to learn to wield again.He never even noticed that he had lost his nobody with Vens heart.He just went on his merry way all the way through the end of KH1 through CoM Sorry for the double post it was supposed to be multi-quoted lol Edited April 6, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 6, 2012 Personally i think Lea went back to inform the revived apprentices of the real deal with MX and also to gather info in Ansems study.Who knows, the apprentices could be asked to join in the fight against MX since he duped and used them. That sounds as good as anything I could think of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 That sounds as good as anything I could think of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legendkiller222 22 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. There is evidence in Sora being a light. Mickey lists him as a light when he is talking to MX about the guardians of light and the darknesses. Mickey lists himself, Sora, Riku, TAV (By saying the three that are still missing) and a last one that is apparently on MX's side, by MX's response. Edited April 6, 2012 by legendkiller222 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 When Sora was a heartless or walking heart he still used the keyblade without Ven.He didnt need to learn to wield again.He never even noticed that he had lost his nobody with Vens heart.He just went on his merry way all the way through the end of KH1 through CoM Sorry for the double post it was supposed to be multi-quoted lol Well, imo, without Ven's heart, Sora wouldn't have been chosen. I think it would have went to Kairi before Ansem: SoD got to her. And I feel like he learned how to wield the keyblade because of Ven's heart and came to be able to hold it without his heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Sora got Ven's heart. Riku's heart fell to darkness and the keyblade picked the closest worthy heart which was Sora. It picked him because of his strong heart. This could have been influenced by him having Ven's heart. When Sora temporarily loses his keyblade in KH1 he has to get it back from Riku and then he stabs himself near the end of Hollow Bastion. When he turns into a heartless, Roxas was "born". Roxas then takes Ven's heart that's why he looks so much like him. By doing so, Sora learned how to wield a keyblade without Ven's heart. In my opinion until after Hollow Bastion, Sora did not know how to hold a keyblade. Sora regained his ability to weild the keyblade when he confronted Riku in hollow baston and proved that he had a stronger heart not when he stabbed himself. He only did that to free Kairi's heart. BTW I totally agree with wolfman on this, Sora got the keyblade at destiny islands because riku opened his heart to darkness and therefore gave up the ability to use the keyblade that terra gave him. So sora got that keyblade and eventually Riku got his own keyblade to mesh with his sword of dark awesomeness, way to dawn. anyway sora uses ven's keyblade when dual weilding and will still be the hero of the next kh game so u can all relax. Edited April 6, 2012 by Elijah Gravenhorst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 Well, imo, without Ven's heart, Sora wouldn't have been chosen. I think it would have went to Kairi before Ansem: SoD got to her. And I feel like he learned how to wield the keyblade because of Ven's heart and came to be able to hold it without his heart. Nomuras said that even WITHOUT Ven sora wouldve still become a keyblade wielder.He was destined from the time he was born even without vens heart coming to him. This isnt an opinion..Its a fact .Those were Nomuras words FFS . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 6, 2012 Nomuras said that even WITHOUT Ven sora wouldve still become a keyblade wielder.He was destined from the time he was born even without vens heart coming to him. This isnt an opinion..Its a fact .Those were Nomuras words FFS . LOL k. Chill doe, don't get worked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woolfman1994 19 Posted April 6, 2012 Well, imo, without Ven's heart, Sora wouldn't have been chosen. I think it would have went to Kairi before Ansem: SoD got to her. And I feel like he learned how to wield the keyblade because of Ven's heart and came to be able to hold it without his heart. Reread the first sentence in the topic. Sora was destined to weild the keyblade even without ven's heart. Ven's heart merging with Sora just sped up the process of Sora getting the keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 LOL k. Chill doe, don't get worked up. Im far from worked up..Just stating facts . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esumsoraroxas 48 Posted April 6, 2012 Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. Can you please gve us your interpretation of Sora's failure of the Mark of Mastery Exam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 Reread the first sentence in the topic. Sora was destined to weild the keyblade even without ven's heart. Ven's heart merging with Sora just sped up the process of Sora getting the keyblade. This makes 8 times in the past few days XDDDDDD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thekh13 10 Posted April 6, 2012 GUYS I JUST GOT TO SAY THIS YOUR FORGETTING WHAT IT SAID IN THE VERY FIRST KH REMEMBER SORA YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL OPEN THE DOOR. SORA IS THE CHOSEN ONE EVEN IF THERE IS A CHANCE HE MAY NOT BE A LIGHT WE DON'T KNOW BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO WILL DEFEAT MX AND OPEN THE DOOR IN KH 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted April 6, 2012 Can you please gve us your interpretation of Sora's failure of the Mark of Mastery Exam? He couldn't handle the painful memories of the past or his own darkness since he never had to like riku did. His failure had nothing to do with his ability to weild the keyblade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thekh13 10 Posted April 6, 2012 LOL k. Chill doe, don't get worked up. Nomuras said that even WITHOUT Ven sora wouldve still become a keyblade wielder.He was destined from the time he was born even without vens heart coming to him. This isnt an opinion..Its a fact .Those were Nomuras words FFS . Okay, I have noticed recently that alot of people have said that once ven has been released from Sora's heart Sora wont be able to use the keyblade. To clarify this, Sora was destined to weild the keyblade from the start. Ven's heart allowed him to use two keyblades. I dont know how many times people have said the forum and have been corrected. I know that some people dont belive Sora to be one of the 7 lights, but that is why you cant count him out there is no proof that he isnt and there isnt any proof that he neccessarily is. Also about Lea. In the secret ending it has been mentioned that Lea has returned to radiant garden. Which probably means he is not going to train under yen sid at this time however he probably will still fight. GUYS I JUST GOT TO SAY THIS YOUR FORGETTING WHAT IT SAID IN THE VERY FIRST KH REMEMBER SORA YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL OPEN THE DOOR. SORA IS THE CHOSEN ONE EVEN IF THERE IS A CHANCE HE MAY NOT BE A LIGHT WE DON'T KNOW BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO WILL DEFEAT MX AND OPEN THE DOOR IN KH 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 6, 2012 GUYS I JUST GOT TO SAY THIS YOUR FORGETTING WHAT IT SAID IN THE VERY FIRST KH REMEMBER SORA YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL OPEN THE DOOR. SORA IS THE CHOSEN ONE EVEN IF THERE IS A CHANCE HE MAY NOT BE A LIGHT WE DON'T KNOW BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO WILL DEFEAT MX AND OPEN THE DOOR IN KH 3 First off, take your caps off. Secondly, We know he was chosen and destined ..We have debated this fact bc so many dont know .So what have we forgot? That makes no sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thekh13 10 Posted April 6, 2012 First off, take your caps off. Secondly, We know he was chosen and destined ..We have debated this fact bc so many dont know .So what have we forgot? That makes no sense wow calm down skipper im just stating cuz like you you said alot of people dont know and sec i just put caps on to get people attention thats all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
