why all the negativity for KH3 possibly being on XBOX360?

[hatok 6,413]

i'm not trying to start a console war here or anything, but it seems everyware that i go people hate the idea of KH3 being released on XBOX and PS3.

 

i've played the first 2 games on my PS2 and it was a good system, but i got an XBOX because to me it was a better buy with backwards compatability and some nice exclusives plus all my freinds play on it. and i'm not about to go and spend money on ONE system for ONE game when the system wouldnt even let me play some of my old favorite PS2 games.

 

personally i see nothing wrong with it being released on both, i'm not trying to be an XBOX eliteist just a guy who prefers one system and thinks the game should come out on both. so could somebody give me ONE reason it shouldnt come to XBOX360 other than "Because XBOX sucks!"

 

The fact of the matter is, releasing a game on multiple consoles drags down quality, and bloats the budget. Final Fantasy had many features cut or degraded to work on the XBox, and still had to be fitted on multiple disks. This is because the game was optimized for the PS3. When a game is made for a single console, all of the resources can be spent on that version. There's no porting, or refurnishing, or degrading.

A KH game for just the XBox would be fine, but considering the XBox isn't popular in Japan, and the game is made by Japanese developers, that doesn't seem very likely.

 

yeah but for america they would do great in sales and make so much more money. while japan may be where the game is released first it isnt the majority of the fanbase

 

Can you really say there are a lot of XBox owners itching for a KH game? Many people, bought a PS3 exclusively with the hope that KH3 may be announced for it. Sure, the XBox is more popular in North America, that's not what really counts. What really matters is the number of paying fans who own said consoles.

 

well, it might be falling in japan, but it's actually successful in the USA (I think, at least I know TONS of people who own one)...they might create US version just for the xbox 360 (and i am not talking about it being exclusive just for the xbox 360, I mean like one for the ps3 (4?!) one for the 360 and one for the wii U b/c that's what I am getting LOL) b/c it would broaden the audience for the game and it would get higher sales.

 

Higher sales at a high cost. They would probably sitll turn a higher profit, but sacrifices would need ot be made, and that's no good.

 

xbox can handle mass effect 3, if it couldnt handle KH3 graphics if it was made for PS3 first than god how high quality must it be. plus i actually dont see visual quality going up that much with a new game other than detail since as a game where you visit disney worlds they cant make it too realistic. i see detail on stuff like soras necklace not just being a drawn in mesh being improved but other than that kind of stuff and better facial animation not much.

 

Mass Effect 3 isn't a particular graphical powerhouse. If you want a better comparison, compare the graphical fidelity and scope of FFXIII and Versus XIII. A game optimized for the PS3 trounces the XBox in terms of graphical quality, if based only on polygons and textures. Mass effect 3 is first and foremost a PC game. PC. Microsoft. See the connection? Nobody is calling the XBox a WEAK console. Just weaker than the PS3, and even then, onyl when properly optimized, and the gap isn't that large.

 

considering it uses disney characters which are american and the main portion of the game i would say its aimed at everyware, the only exclusives japan gets is first releases and final mixes and thats because its developed in japan, and at the end of the day the game exists to make money and the most effective way for it to do that is for it to be cross platform so their isnt any good reason for it not to happen

 

They also use Final Fantasy characters (Which are Japanese) and almost completely shun the Disney characters (Besides Donald, Goofy, Mickey and Yen Sid)

And keep in mind that Disney is IMMENSELY popular in Japan; it spawned the style of manga, as we know it today.

[Uncle Dolan 963]

considering it uses disney characters which are american and the main portion of the game i would say its aimed at everyware, the only exclusives japan gets is first releases and final mixes and thats because its developed in japan, and at the end of the day the game exists to make money and the most effective way for it to do that is for it to be cross platform so their isnt any good reason for it not to happen

 

Um, what. This game is aimed at the Japanese. No buts about it. Nomura isn't in it for the money obviously and is only there to provide what the fans want.

[Oishii 3,987]

If it were up to me, I would love to see KH games come out on all consoles. But it's just whatever SE decides *shrug*

[Skyace 65 75]

Um, what. This game is aimed at the Japanese. No buts about it. Nomura isn't in it for the money obviously and is only there to provide what the fans want.

 

but he dosent have the final say, the people in charge of square enix and disney games do

[Karysonson 41]

but he dosent have the final say, the people in charge of square enix and disney games do

 

no the developer has the final say

[Rob 5,571]

but he dosent have the final say, the people in charge of square enix and disney games do

 

And the people in charge at Square say Playstation and Nintendo handhelds.

[Setrex 1,031]

I hope Square Enix learned their lesson with what they did with FF13. I do not want to see KH3 on the Xbox because quite simply I hate the machine. It's the only console (besides the Vita) in this current generation I don't own, because I do not like how it willing takes money from your pocket to play games online, but that is a different story.

I think it depends solely on what happens with Versus, if that gets and Xbox port then you can fear the worst for KH3. If not then I imagine KH3 will run on the same engine and be done relatively fast and still could make a PS3 release. After all, KH2 came out a year before the PS3 was released so I won't write the ps3 off just yet.

[Karysonson 41]

anyway considering xbox uses dvd disc witch is like 4.7 and a double layer is like 8.(?) and ps3 uses blueray which has like 30 gbs or more of space.....they would have more room for cgi cutscenes which we ALL KNOW square likes

[Skyace 65 75]

no the developer has the final say

 

that is not the case at all. if you were to develop a game or any kind of product, the corporation thats funding and or publishing it has the final say, if they tell you to do something you do it or you get fired.

[Karysonson 41]

And to the people who say...."I DONT HAVE THAT SYSTEM SO IT HAS TO BE FOR MY SYSTEM!!!"

1.I dont think they care ;P

2.just stop buying $60 games for about....4-5 new releases then you'll have enough ps3s only cost about $250

(This coming from the guy who bought the ps3 for $400 and likes importing...A LOT!)

 

that is not the case at all. if you were to develop a game or any kind of product, the corporation thats funding and or publishing it has the final say, if they tell you to do something you do it or you get fired.

 

knowing what happend to square with ff13....I should know better by now! 0_0

[Skyace 65 75]

anyway considering xbox uses dvd disc witch is like 4.7 and a double layer is like 8.(?) and ps3 uses blueray which has like 30 gbs or more of space.....they would have more room for cgi cutscenes which we ALL KNOW square likes

 

personally (and this isnt for my argument) i prefer if they stick to them being at the begining and at the end, it makes the moment so much more special and it dosent feel like just another scene

[Uncle Dolan 963]

but he dosent have the final say, the people in charge of square enix and disney games do

 

How do you know this? LOL The director has the final word.

[Exodaze 491]

It just hits me, I remember reading an article about Xbox not selling well in Japan. This might be one of the barriers that hinder the release of KH title on Xbox.

[shadowgarion 6]

i'm not trying to start a console war here or anything, but it seems everyware that i go people hate the idea of KH3 being released on XBOX and PS3.

 

i've played the first 2 games on my PS2 and it was a good system, but i got an XBOX because to me it was a better buy with backwards compatability and some nice exclusives plus all my freinds play on it. and i'm not about to go and spend money on ONE system for ONE game when the system wouldnt even let me play some of my old favorite PS2 games.

 

personally i see nothing wrong with it being released on both, i'm not trying to be an XBOX eliteist just a guy who prefers one system and thinks the game should come out on both. so could somebody give me ONE reason it shouldnt come to XBOX360 other than "Because XBOX sucks!"

 

the reason why it won't come out on the Xbox is because there is no reason for it to come out on the Xbox. Every Kingdom Hearts game has been on either nintendo or sony, also SquareEnix is a japanese company and the Japanese hate the Xbox. Plus i'm pretty sure that Nomura once said that he wants to put KH3 on the most current Nintendo AND Sony system so that the fans can complete the story without the need to buy the system they don't have so they can. One more thing is that the Xbox has never done well with Japanese series', almost every japanese based series that has ever gone to the Xbox has failed miserably and ended either selling WAY BETTER on its japanese counter part the PS3 or it ended up being remade for the PS3. And the last and most obvious reason that this is the end of the Xehanort saga, not a single before it was on the Xbox giving SquareEnix no reason to put it on the Xbox, it just wouldnt make sense to end it on a system that most wouldnt except. And believe it or not, those you Xbox owning KH fans are a very small minority in the fanbase and SquareEnix isn't willing to lose money by puting a game on a system that only a few people would buy. So there you, some intellectual reasons as to why KH3 should NOT be on the Xbox.

[Skyace 65 75]

the reason why it won't come out on the Xbox is because there is no reason for it to come out on the Xbox. Every Kingdom Hearts game has been on either nintendo or sony, also SquareEnix is a japanese company and the Japanese hate the Xbox. Plus i'm pretty sure that Nomura once said that he wants to put KH3 on the most current Nintendo AND Sony system so that the fans can complete the story without the need to buy the system they don't have so they can. One more thing is that the Xbox has never done well with Japanese series', almost every japanese based series that has ever gone to the Xbox has failed miserably and ended either selling WAY BETTER on its japanese counter part the PS3 or it ended up being remade for the PS3. And the last and most obvious reason that this is the end of the Xehanort saga, not a single before it was on the Xbox giving SquareEnix no reason to put it on the Xbox, it just wouldnt make sense to end it on a system that most wouldnt except. And believe it or not, those you Xbox owning KH fans are a very small minority in the fanbase and SquareEnix isn't willing to lose money by puting a game on a system that only a few people would buy. So there you, some intellectual reasons as to why KH3 should NOT be on the Xbox.

 

unless an actual study or survey is done you dont know how big or small the group of fans like me is. and console has nothing to do with a game being good or not unless something got cut out for some reason, and from what i read about FF13 nothing got cut out and they got what they were going for in the game.

 

and just a general curiosity, why do the japanese hate xbox? is it a language setting thing or something?

[riku023 2]

because they wont come out with halo 4 for the ps3 or any of the halo games on ps3 you want a good game for xbox 360 give up one for the ps3

[r0ckstarferlife 34]

I want it to be ps3 exclusive because it has potential for improved graphics and add on content.

[Skai 3,961]

Just stop -_____-

[Axtwyt 500]

Here's why:

Xbox is better for online gameplay.

PS3 is better for quality.

Add in the fact that PS3 has pretty darn good online and succeeds better in Japan gives you the reason why PS3 is better

[r0ckstarferlife 34]

I would say because ps3 exclusive games always turn out a whole lot better then when they are available on both, because the developers can take full advantage of it

[Emo/Yami 37]

Console Wars= Foolish bias. Xbox and PS3 can actually produce equal graphical quality if the developer knows what to do. While it is true devs don't know how to utilize 100% of the PS3's power, I've seen enough in the industry to suggest that both systems can match each other at 100% if everyone had enough skill with the systems to do that. The reason some games look better on one system than the other is simply because the game began develop on one system but was then developed for another.

 

Back on topic; I'd rather have KHIII on the PS3/4 just to keep with the Sony home console release thing for numbered titles. If not, the Wii U would be good too. Since KHIII will release in Japan first, and Xbox isn't doing well in the market there, I don't think it would be wise to use that as the system.

[hatok 6,413]

Console Wars= Foolish bias. Xbox and PS3 can actually produce equal graphical quality if the developer knows what to do. While it is true devs don't know how to utilize 100% of the PS3's power, I've seen enough in the industry to suggest that both systems can match each other at 100% if everyone had enough skill with the systems to do that. The reason some games look better on one system than the other is simply because the game began develop on one system but was then developed for another.

 

Back on topic; I'd rather have KHIII on the PS3/4 just to keep with the Sony home console release thing for numbered titles. If not, the Wii U would be good too. Since KHIII will release in Japan first, and Xbox isn't doing well in the market there, I don't think it would be wise to use that as the system.

 

You would need to cut corners in order for the 360 to match the full power of the PS3. Of course, there's no risk of that, because nobody knows how to access the PS3's full power.