terraqua 3 Posted April 4, 2012 So when Roxas castle oblivion he ended up getting a bad head ache and passed out. So why is this is it because he is Ven and he cant remember because of castle oblivion's tricks, or is it that he was to close to sora and that was almost like a malfunction, lastly could it be that Roxas is just a nobody that either has vens memories locked inside him like sora, or is it he is like ven and he got to close to ven. What do you think..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted April 4, 2012 Roxas fainted because he was near his "true selves." Roxas has Ven's heart inside him(which is why he looks ike Ven) and he is Sora's nobody. 2 Zenithia and Kello reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terraqua 3 Posted April 4, 2012 Roxas fainted because he was near his "true selves." Roxas has Ven's heart inside him(which is why he looks ike Ven) and he is Sora's nobody. Exactly what I was thinking.... do you think Roxas looks like ven because he is literally in ven's body or because he took form of his memories? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted April 4, 2012 Roxas fainted because he was near his "true selves." Roxas has Ven's heart inside him(which is why he looks ike Ven) and he is Sora's nobody. Is that really why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terraqua 3 Posted April 4, 2012 Is that really why? I think it could be a number of possibilities and it just was not explained in detail so I look forward to figuring it out and seeing what others think. which of my theories seem the most logical/ possible to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted April 4, 2012 Exactly what I was thinking.... do you think Roxas looks like ven because he is literally in ven's body or because he took form of his memories? I just explained why Roxas looks like Ven. Is that really why? That's what I read from Nomura-sama....so yup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terraqua 3 Posted April 4, 2012 I just explained why Roxas looks like Ven. That's what I read from Nomura-sama....so yup. Sorry awesome moment there lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenithia 305 Posted April 4, 2012 Roxas fainted because he was near his "true selves." Roxas has Ven's heart inside him(which is why he looks ike Ven) and he is Sora's nobody. tutti frutti. Rob pretty much summed it all up in two sentences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraRikuKairi13 2 Posted April 4, 2012 Roxas looks like ven because in bbs ven and sora blend and Roxas is soras nobody Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneezes 73 Posted April 8, 2012 Exactly what I was thinking.... do you think Roxas looks like ven because he is literally in ven's body or because he took form of his memories? this is random but i have been wondering the same thing actually i havent had the time to actually go look up more interviews with nomura over Days explaining these things but i was stumped over whether roxas just took form of vens memories or if he literally is ven.......he technically isnt a nobody bc his somebody (sora) regained his heart & was actually really near him (castle oblivion) idk after i played bbs & days i feel like i have more questions that answers sighhh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ars25 6 Posted April 9, 2012 this is random but i have been wondering the same thing actually i havent had the time to actually go look up more interviews with nomura over Days explaining these things but i was stumped over whether roxas just took form of vens memories or if he literally is ven.......he technically isnt a nobody bc his somebody (sora) regained his heart & was actually really near him (castle oblivion) idk after i played bbs & days i feel like i have more questions that answers sighhh i will like to contridect that by stating the sora we play at the end of kh1 all the way to the time he awakes is a heartless with a human body axel even states it in com when he said that only sora and asem sod were the only ones to achieve that form Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NamineRose 28 Posted June 2, 2012 It was probably a combination of being near Ven and, if Sora was still there and not at Twilight Town yet, Sora. Namine may have contirbuted so Roxas wouldn't find something he shouldn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Novarin 2 Posted June 2, 2012 Roxas fainted because he was near his "true selves." Roxas has Ven's heart inside him(which is why he looks ike Ven) and he is Sora's nobody. That is pretty much it. It's possible Namine did something as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 2, 2012 That is pretty much it. It's possible Namine did something as well. No, she didn't do anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689 Posted June 2, 2012 idk after i played bbs & days i feel like i have more questions that answers sighhh I'm pretty sure that's what Nomura intended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted June 3, 2012 Why do you think he got a headache? Lol. I seriously doubt it was a headache. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CardCaptorDeadpool 386 Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Roxas got completely fuçked in the head man a lot moar than a head ache! Anywho I really don't understand why he passed out over it maybe its cause he was close to Sora his original persona, or maybe because he was close to Ventus the body Roxas' heart comes from. Perhaps it was something Ventus subconsciously did to keep Roxas away from him since Roxas' place was to be part of Sora again! All speculation on my part because the links between Sora, Ventus, Roxas and Vanitas is literally the most confusing thing about Kingdom Hearts!. Oh ya for whoever wanted to know the reason Roxas looks like Ventus is because in BBS when Xeahnort split Ventus into two he went into a coma and Sora Meta-physically fixed the part of Ventus' heart that broke in order to give Vanitas life. Vanitas is half of what Ventus is, he was human but a blank canvas, when Sora saved Ventus, Vanitas took Sora's appearance because of his connection to Ventus and by proxy Sora. After Ventus and Vanitas clashed over the X-blade the fight destroyed Vanitas and put Ventus into a new coma, in the Dive to the Heart Sora and Ventus met again but this time Ventus gave Sora his Heart to keep safe and ever since his Heart has been inside Sora. Flash forwad 10 years Sora frees his Heart, becomes a Heartless and Roxas is born, now Nobodies are meant to totally resemble their original personas, but Roxas looks like Ventus, why is this? It's kinda like the Vanitas thing Roxas should look like a twin of Sora but is a different hombre altogether. So for some reson Ventus' Heart wasn't freed but Sora still turned into a Nobody but one with a Heart and similarly with Vanitas this different kind of blank slate took Ventus' appearance but is it's own individual. Ever since Roxas rejoined Sora Ventus' Heart came back to him. Riku has a similar connection with Terra but thats speculation. So as best I can describe the convoluted and confusing existences of these people. Edited June 5, 2012 by CardCaptorDeadpool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xionroxasaxel 20 Posted June 9, 2012 First off, he was not close to Sora because he was moved to the old mansion in Twilight Town. And maybe it was because he got too close to Ven. Not really sure... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MitsumiXVIXIII 0 Posted June 17, 2012 I think Sora was still there at the time. I think it's just because Sora was there and Ven as well at once and it was too much memories flowing into him because of the close contact to them...Something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 18, 2012 First off, he was not close to Sora because he was moved to the old mansion in Twilight Town. And maybe it was because he got too close to Ven. Not really sure... What I said was correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) -- Roxas and Xion collapse several times in the story, is this because of Sora's influence? Nomura: Roxas has been existing closely with Sora from the start, and directly feels the influence of Sora's present conditions. Afterwards that tendency appears in Xion too. The two of them are sharing Sora's power, so if on the one hand one of them gains a lot of power, the other's body weakens and they collapse. It's a relationship that is only practical if kept perfectly in balance. Roxas and Xion's incidents Day 26: Roxas faints-- In order for the changes in Sora's memories to progress. Day 74: Xion becomes unable to use the Keyblade-- As a counterbalance to the power absorbed when Roxas awakens. Day 193: Xion, having been defeated by Heartless and gone to sleep, wakes up, then during a mission collapses, but soon gets up again.-- While she was asleep Sora's memories continued to flow into Roxas. Due to the memories being reconnected. Day 297: Roxas faints-- A result of going to Castle Oblivion, where Sora is sleeping, and getting too close to his "true form". also this : Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike? A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297? A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. From Nomuras mouth himself XDDD .. Listen to Rob Edited June 18, 2012 by Flaming Lea 3 Robbie the Wise, Rob and Forever Everdeen reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 18, 2012 -- Roxas and Xion collapse several times in the story, is this because of Sora's influence? Nomura: Roxas has been existing closely with Sora from the start, and directly feels the influence of Sora's present conditions. Afterwards that tendency appears in Xion too. The two of them are sharing Sora's power, so if on the one hand one of them gains a lot of power, the other's body weakens and they collapse. It's a relationship that is only practical if kept perfectly in balance. Roxas and Xion's incidents Day 26: Roxas faints-- In order for the changes in Sora's memories to progress. Day 74: Xion becomes unable to use the Keyblade-- As a counterbalance to the power absorbed when Roxas awakens. Day 193: Xion, having been defeated by Heartless and gone to sleep, wakes up, then during a mission collapses, but soon gets up again.-- While she was asleep Sora's memories continued to flow into Roxas. Due to the memories being reconnected. Day 297: Roxas faints-- A result of going to Castle Oblivion, where Sora is sleeping, and getting too close to his "true form". also this : Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike? A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas’ body, is Ventus’ heart. As was shown in the opening to BbS and the ending to Last Episode, Sora and Ventus’ heart are linked. And so Roxas, who is a part of Sora, was affected by that and looks just like Ventus. Q2: Why did Roxas faint in Castle Oblivion on Day 297? A: Because he had gotten to close to both Sora and Ventus, his “real self”.Before Day 297 in Days Sora had been to Castle Oblivion, as well as the fact that Ventus is asleep somewhere in the Room of Awakening. Both Sora and Ventus can be called Roxas’ “real selves”, and when he felt their presence it made him faint. Q3 is basically the same question as 1 confirming Roxas has Ven's heart Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. From Nomuras mouth himself XDDD .. Listen to Rob So lea-gendary! 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayfinder823 477 Posted June 18, 2012 But wait a minute--if Roxas passed out because he was too close to his two original selves, then why didn't he pass out in KHII when he merged with Sora. Is it because Ven wasn't "there"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites