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Never heard of a transfer, but dont take Vens heart lightly, he is the reason Sora is able to dual-wield and he gave Sora his armor whenever he fell into darkness, Ven still has some kick in him lol

 

Sorry, I meant it can't do a thing for him as in helping him get a Keyblade. He helps in other ways though. I know he's the reason for the dual wielding and the armor. :P

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Sorry, I meant it can't do a thing for him as in helping him get a Keyblade. He helps in other ways though. I know he's the reason for the dual wielding and the armor. :P

 

Man youd think someone the Keyblade chose itself without a Ceremony would most def pass the Exam.

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Before Lea went to Yen Sid, he flashbacked the promise that he made with Roxas that he will bring him back no matter what happen. He is probably going to use his keyblade to separate Roxas from Sora... Also, Xehanort said that he has 3 lights in his side when he captured Sora, so the 3 light will be Sora, Roxas, and Ventus. However, the war will not begin when the 7 lights and 13 darks are there. Therefore, Nomura will think a way to make them separate from Sora, instead of Sora representing both of them. Maybe this is the reason why Lea got a keyblade.

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Just bc he summoned the KK that doesnt mean he has a keyblade bc of Ven . Nomura said regardless of Ven Sora woulda been able to wield bc he was always chosen. So even if Vens heart wasnt in there it wouldve chosen Sora anyways when it rejected Riku.It might have taken the form of KK bc of Ven but its not why Sora can wield.

 

*Sigh* Need I remind you all that Ven and Sora made contact with one another almost the moment Sora was born? Replay the opening cinimatic. Sora was ALWAYS chosen to wield the Keyblade, BECOUSE Ven had "chosen" him right from birth/conception/what have you.

 

Also, I have a theory that, just as a Nobody can regrow a Heart, and the World(s) made new Hearts via the Light from children's Hearts, so too did the World(s) make a new X-blade. Just as the pieces of the Old X-blade became reborn as the 7 Princesses of Pure Light, and as Xehanort tried making a fake X-blade using Ven and Vanitas, perhaps the World(s) created a New X-blade in the form of Sora. Just a thought. Probbably wrong, but with how complex KH has become, who knows?

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You don't need to have the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony or any indirect form of it for you to wield a keyblade. You just need to have the makings. And you don;t have to have a heart that resides in the light. You can have a heart that resides in the dark but still use it. After all, darkness isn't bad, just succumbing to it or the light is.

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*Sigh* Need I remind you all that Ven and Sora made contact with one another almost the moment Sora was born? Replay the opening cinimatic. Sora was ALWAYS chosen to wield the Keyblade, BECOUSE Ven had "chosen" him right from birth/conception/what have you.

 

Also, I have a theory that, just as a Nobody can regrow a Heart, and the World(s) made new Hearts via the Light from children's Hearts, so too did the World(s) make a new X-blade. Just as the pieces of the Old X-blade became reborn as the 7 Princesses of Pure Light, and as Xehanort tried making a fake X-blade using Ven and Vanitas, perhaps the World(s) created a New X-blade in the form of Sora. Just a thought. Probbably wrong, but with how complex KH has become, who knows?

 

Need i remind you to learn to read .Im telling you what ive typed how many times on here.Nomura said regardless of Ven Sora wouldve wielded PERIOD..That he was always destined to REGARDLESS.

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Need i remind you to learn to read .Im telling you what ive typed how many times on here.Nomura said regardless of Ven Sora wouldve wielded PERIOD..That he was always destined to REGARDLESS.

 

Feh. Point made. Said point segways nicely into my second paragraph, however. That said, we are BOTH off topic here. This IS a thread about Lea, after all.

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Okay guys, Nomura said Sora was destined to be a Wielder, which still doesn't change my thinking that Ventus's heart inside Sora helped him be able to summon it.

 

Anyways, as this thread is about Lea, let me see what i think by now...

Yen Sid definitely DIDN'T did a ceremony, because, ya know, Good old Yen Sid jumped out of his chair when he saw Lea summoning it.

 

Funny Thing: All of this ''theory'' came into my mind when i was showing some Lea pictures on google to a friend of mine, and i saw that screenshot of him holding the wooden keyblade.

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Okay guys, Nomura said Sora was destined to be a Wielder, which still doesn't change my thinking that Ventus's heart inside Sora helped him be able to summon it.

3: Is it possible that Roxas has a heart?

It is thought that it could be Ventus’s heart.



 In KHIIFM there were clues to him having a heart, and in Days we saw
 Roxas crying—proof that he could have a heart. As was said in Q1, he 
has taken a lot of himself from Ventus. But perhaps when Sora and Roxas
 were separated, Ventus’s heart stayed in Roxas?

 

http://kh-info-block.tumblr.com/tagged/BBSNom1

Anyways, as this thread is about Lea, let me see what i think by now...

Yen Sid definitely DIDN'T did a ceremony, because, ya know, Good old Yen Sid jumped out of his chair when he saw Lea summoning it.

 

Funny Thing: All of this ''theory'' came into my mind when i was showing some Lea pictures on google to a friend of mine, and i saw that screenshot of him holding the wooden keyblade.

 

I depends on how you interpret it, Remember Lea went there to become a wielder perhaps Yen Sid did the cermony but was suprised how fast Lea was able to obtain one.

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3: Is it possible that Roxas has a heart?

It is thought that it could be Ventus’s heart.



 In KHIIFM there were clues to him having a heart, and in Days we saw
 Roxas crying—proof that he could have a heart. As was said in Q1, he 
has taken a lot of himself from Ventus. But perhaps when Sora and Roxas
 were separated, Ventus’s heart stayed in Roxas?

 

http://kh-info-block.../tagged/BBSNom1

I depends on how you interpret it, Remember Lea went there to become a wielder perhaps Yen Sid did the cermony but was suprised how fast Lea was able to obtain one.

 

Yep ...This X 1000 on that link but it also stated why Sora can wield his and Vens is what i mean LOL

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3: Is it possible that Roxas has a heart?

It is thought that it could be Ventus’s heart.



 In KHIIFM there were clues to him having a heart, and in Days we saw
 Roxas crying—proof that he could have a heart. As was said in Q1, he 
has taken a lot of himself from Ventus. But perhaps when Sora and Roxas
 were separated, Ventus’s heart stayed in Roxas?

 

http://kh-info-block.../tagged/BBSNom1

I depends on how you interpret it, Remember Lea went there to become a wielder perhaps Yen Sid did the cermony but was suprised how fast Lea was able to obtain one.

 

That's very interesting, but, so what? Remember Roxas didn't even existed at the beginning of KH1.

I'm not sure if i didn't understood your point or something.

 

And well, just asking, i'm not saying you are lying, but just to know the cutscene that he says that.

I think i've seen it already, but watching KH cutscenes is always worthy.

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That's very interesting, but, so what? Remember Roxas didn't even existed at the beginning of KH1.

I'm not sure if i didn't understood your point or something.

 

And well, just asking, i'm not saying you are lying, but just to know the cutscene that he says that.

I think i've seen it already, but watching KH cutscenes is always worthy.

 

Of course none of the series thus far was planned at that point but fact is nomura has incorporated the new elements into the old story. Nomura has said that Ventus is the reason Sora can duel wield as he can use his own and ventus's keyblades. He was destined to wield one whether Ventus entered his heart are not though the combination of Ventus and the events of Destiny Islands destruction sped up the process. So with that in mind please explain what you are trying to say

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Of course none of the series thus far was planned at that point but fact is nomura has incorporated the new elements into the old story. Nomura has said that Ventus is the reason Sora can duel wield as he can use his own and ventus's keyblades. He was destined to wield one whether Ventus entered his heart are not though the combination of Ventus and the events of Destiny Islands destruction sped up the process. So with that in mind please explain what you are trying to say

 

Hmm, i see. Well, i just asked that because you said that Roxas having a heart thing, and i thought you said that in a way to say: When Roxas existed, Ventus heart went with him, and Sora was all by himself until he reunited with Roxas in KH2, and that he was still able to wield the keyblade even without Ventus inside him, because he really could do it, with or without Ventus. Is that it?

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Hmm, i see. Well, i just asked that because you said that Roxas having a heart thing, and i thought you said that in a way to say: When Roxas existed, Ventus heart went with him, and Sora was all by himself until he reunited with Roxas in KH2, and that he was still able to wield the keyblade even without Ventus inside him, because he really could do it, with or without Ventus. Is that it?

 

Yes without Ven Sora can no longer duel wield he can only wield one. The fact that he was able to take Riku's is proof that he could wield his own Keyblade.

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Hmm, i see. Well, i just asked that because you said that Roxas having a heart thing, and i thought you said that in a way to say: When Roxas existed, Ventus heart went with him, and Sora was all by himself until he reunited with Roxas in KH2, and that he was still able to wield the keyblade even without Ventus inside him, because he really could do it, with or without Ventus. Is that it?

 

Thats what Sora was doing the entire time in Castle Oblivion.He was wielding without Vens heart .

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Okay, i always thought that some fragment of Ventus hearts was inside Sora, but now i realize is quite the opposite: There's some part Sora's heart inside Ventus's, right?

 

Anyway, i asked that because i can't think of Lea doing a ceremony with Yen Sid, my mortal mind just can't imagine that.

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Okay, i always thought that some fragment of Ventus hearts was inside Sora, but now i realize is quite the opposite: There's some part Sora's heart inside Ventus's, right?

 

Anyway, i asked that because i can't think of Lea doing a ceremony with Yen Sid, my mortal mind just can't imagine that.

 

Ventus' heart is asleep in Sora period .It was fragmented when he defeated Vanitas but when it went to Sora its been healing while sleeping inside and made complete again. It shouldnt surprise anyone that Yen Sid would though bc we need all the keyblades as possible .Nomura has said that there are as many keyblades as hearts that could wield them ..

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Ventus' heart is asleep in Sora period .It was fragmented when he defeated Vanitas but when it went to Sora its been healing while sleeping inside and made complete again. It shouldnt surprise anyone that Yen Sid would though bc we need all the keyblades as possible .Nomura has said that there are as many keyblades as hearts that could wield them ..

 

Okay, sorry for anything i said... Geez...

Anyway, what's ''bc''?

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From the translations I've seen on various youtube videos Lea tells Riku and Sora that he planned to come to Yen Sid to become a keyblade wielder, but he couldn't summon it yet. He then reaches out his hand and a keyblade appears and even Lea himself is surprised saying huh. My guess is that Yen Sid performed the ceremony for Lea, but nobody thought he'd be able to summon his keyblade so quickly hence the reason Yen Sid himself was surprised.

 

Even if you can't understand what's being said, you kinda get the picture anyway ;)

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guess ill say like what i did in another thread like this; had to sign up cuz it seems like you guys are very clueless as to what was going on in DDD ; when MX had Sora on his side as a vessel, he stated that they need 7 lights and 13 darknesses to start the keyblade war, with sora being the final one; mickey says that him, sora, riku, terra aqua and ven make up 6 with the 7th not known (kairi of course) ; MX states that he has two of the lights on his side and for mickey not to worry as the guardians of light are chosen naturally, basically meaning no matter what, the 7 lights will always be ready regardless of who he makes as his 13 darknesses ; Lea saves Sora, leaving Terra as a vessel, meaning there are 6 lights for them (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven) ; they still needed one more light and Lea was chosen as a guardian of light presumably for his final actions as a nobody and his path towards light in 3D saving Sora and fighting back against XORG13

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guess ill say like what i did in another thread like this; had to sign up cuz it seems like you guys are very clueless as to what was going on in DDD ; when MX had Sora on his side as a vessel, he stated that they need 7 lights and 13 darknesses to start the keyblade war, with sora being the final one; mickey says that him, sora, riku, terra aqua and ven make up 6 with the 7th not known (kairi of course) ; MX states that he has two of the lights on his side and for mickey not to worry as the guardians of light are chosen naturally, basically meaning no matter what, the 7 lights will always be ready regardless of who he makes as his 13 darknesses ; Lea saves Sora, leaving Terra as a vessel, meaning there are 6 lights for them (Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven) ; they still needed one more light and Lea was chosen as a guardian of light presumably for his final actions as a nobody and his path towards light in 3D saving Sora and fighting back against XORG13

 

Ive already said i thought Lea was chosen for his worthiness and that the keyblade has to choose you .But the majority of people here were questioning whether he had a ceremonyor not and translations point to yes .That was the biggest debate .Were you NOT reading all this thread ? So who is really clueless? Some people havent figured that out thats why they ask .Some people have to explain to them or point out stuff.No need to come on here saying everyone is clueless but you.Its far from true and makes you look ignorant .Some things also arent clear to people bc they havent either seen translations or there isnt translations for some scenes available yet .That causes some confusion.Thats why there are forums to discuss.

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