Is Sora fit to be a keyblade master?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once
Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

Source : http://www.gamefaqs....57971099?page=2

 

Yes this Thanks for posting the link .This also shows how Sora dual wields as well for the above posters.Also in the interviews Nomura has stated the reason why Roxas faints in CO is bc hes near his true selves meaning Ven and Sora.

 

I agree with the fact that they're aren't many facts proving that Roxas had Ven's heart. The only reason why Roxas looks like Ven is because Sora had Ven's heart inside his own heart. Roxas had Ven's looks, and Sora's fighting stance with some of Sora's personality. I didn't know Nomura said Roxas could dual wield because of Ventus. I want to see that article. Cause throughout 358/2 Days, I didn't see Ventus except when Xigbar looked at Xion. That's only because Xigbar is connected to Ven, who's connected to Sora, who's connect to Xion. Xion is built off of Sora's Memories. Roxas absorbing Xion gave him the ability to wield 2 keyblades. Also, Roxas had control of Samurai Nobodies. Only a big time Nobody can control other nobodies. So Roxas didn't have a heart. He's just connected to Sora's heart. Xion is Sora's copy that ALMOST became complete (appearing as Sora to Roxas before their battle). Roxas has no heart, he wields one keyblade cause he's Sora's nobody (therefore connected to him), and he wields a second keyblade for absorbing a almost complete copy of Sora (Xion).

 

The above post answers your questions and has the interviews.They are on this site too but this link conglomerates them together too. Its not Xions keyblade hes using per se its that Xion awakens the ability from Ven .see above post from me and from Devereaux.Also in this same link go to Nomuras interviews and then 20 greatest mysteries ..It says the part about Roxas being said to have Vens heart.Also the CO quote Edited April 4, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on

[sorariku17 37]

he is fit to be a keyblade master, just needs to conquer the darkness as did every other keyblade master did before hand. . as we know darkness is in every heart (kairi isn't technically a KB master yet so she doesn't count). But i think the mark of mastery is overrated anyway, look what sora has done without it, its just a title. Sora will under go training for himself, and come back 10x stronger in KH3 (i think we'll have another roxas type scenario when you play as riku or someone for a litttle while, then sora jumps in all cool like in the middle of a battle or w/e )

[Chosenl 3]

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

 

A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once
Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

Source : http://www.gamefaqs....57971099?page=2

 

Thanks for the post! Really helpful!

[Codeman1346 2]

To further the discussion, Namora also stated that only a being with a heart inside of them can summon a keyblade. If Roxas "grew" his own heart it would have taken far to long and he wouldn't have been able to summon it in the first couple days being in the organization.

 

My theory is that Riku was initially supposed to gain the ability to summon the Kingdom key, but when he fell to darkness Sora intercepted it, but he was only able to carry it because of Ven's heart. I read the manga and it always shows him carrying his key around his belt up until the fight with Riku where the KeyBlade chooses him. From that point on, the Kingdom Key was his, and he could summon it and dismiss it at will. Riku then was able to summon his own key, thus making Sora a wielder without the rite to succession. This is just a theory based on others sources of media that may or may not be cannon.

 

Now back to the original discussion, I do not think he deserves to be a Keyblade Master. Being The Key that binds everything together and his ability to become stronger with every person he connects with, I think he isn't going to draw his power from the title of master, and therefore does not need it.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

To further the discussion, Namora also stated that only a being with a heart inside of them can summon a keyblade. If Roxas "grew" his own heart it would have taken far to long and he wouldn't have been able to summon it in the first couple days being in the organization.

 

My theory is that Riku was initially supposed to gain the ability to summon the Kingdom key, but when he fell to darkness Sora intercepted it, but he was only able to carry it because of Ven's heart. I read the manga and it always shows him carrying his key around his belt up until the fight with Riku where the KeyBlade chooses him. From that point on, the Kingdom Key was his, and he could summon it and dismiss it at will. Riku then was able to summon his own key, thus making Sora a wielder without the rite to succession. This is just a theory based on others sources of media that may or may not be cannon.

 

Now back to the original discussion, I do not think he deserves to be a Keyblade Master. Being The Key that binds everything together and his ability to become stronger with every person he connects with, I think he isn't going to draw his power from the title of master, and therefore does not need it.

 

Manga isnt canon. Also Nomura said he was destined to wield from Birth and that Vens heart wasnt the reason he could wield . Ven ISNT the reason he could carry it .It is the reason he could dual wield though.This nullifies your theory ..Sorry. But other than that i agree with the rest you wrote Edited April 6, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on

[shadowgarion 6]

Ok to get back on topic, No, Sora does not deserve to be a master, not yet anyway. It's not that Sora is too immature, it's that he's never had too fight off his own darkness before or overcome some personal darkness, whether it be literal darkness in Riku's case or something like a maturing self doubt like Mickey. Sora has always been overly cocky about his abilities, although always winning probably didn't help. Every Master has had to overcome their own personal "darkness", Riku had literal darkness, Mickey doubted his abilities when he couldn't save Aqua, Ven, and Terra showing Yen Sid that he had grown from when he first started his training, as for Aqua my guess is that she had always doubted herself in terms of wielding the keyblade because she didn't show the strong combat ability that Terra did, making it so she knew her ability the whole time and never over or under estimate her own abilities, showing the mark of a true master. I'm also pretty sure that either Nomura or someone in the series has either stated or suggested that the Mark of Mastery isn't the only way to become a master, For example (and i'm not sure if this is 100% correct) Mickey never went through the Mark of Mastery exam. So the whole thing about Sora not becoming a master in KH3D doesnt mean that he won't become a master at all, it just shows that he wasn't ready to be one at that time. Plus keep in mind that at the end of KH3D Sora went off to "save" Roxas (and probably Xion too) because he believes he deserves his own existence, this is probably when he will become a master.

[shadowgarion 6]

he is fit to be a keyblade master, just needs to conquer the darkness as did every other keyblade master did before hand. . as we know darkness is in every heart (kairi isn't technically a KB master yet so she doesn't count). But i think the mark of mastery is overrated anyway, look what sora has done without it, its just a title. Sora will under go training for himself, and come back 10x stronger in KH3 (i think we'll have another roxas type scenario when you play as riku or someone for a litttle while, then sora jumps in all cool like in the middle of a battle or w/e )

 

Did you ever think that KH3 will have a story similar to KH3D where you play as different wielders at different times or Something similar to BBS where you are capable of playing the story through everyones' perspectives instead of just Sora's (which is really getting boring) or mix between both where we are capable of playing though the perspectives of three or four different groups where you switch off between the different members of the groups. For example Sora, Riku, and Kairi; Lea, Roxas, and Xion; Terra, Aqua, and Ventus. Just saying, it could happen, and i wouldn't hate it.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ok to get back on topic, No, Sora does not deserve to be a master, not yet anyway. It's not that Sora is too immature, it's that he's never had too fight off his own darkness before or overcome some personal darkness, whether it be literal darkness in Riku's case or something like a maturing self doubt like Mickey. Sora has always been overly cocky about his abilities, although always winning probably didn't help. Every Master has had to overcome their own personal "darkness", Riku had literal darkness, Mickey doubted his abilities when he couldn't save Aqua, Ven, and Terra showing Yen Sid that he had grown from when he first started his training, as for Aqua my guess is that she had always doubted herself in terms of wielding the keyblade because she didn't show the strong combat ability that Terra did, making it so she knew her ability the whole time and never over or under estimate her own abilities, showing the mark of a true master. I'm also pretty sure that either Nomura or someone in the series has either stated or suggested that the Mark of Mastery isn't the only way to become a master, For example (and i'm not sure if this is 100% correct) Mickey never went through the Mark of Mastery exam. So the whole thing about Sora not becoming a master in KH3D doesnt mean that he won't become a master at all, it just shows that he wasn't ready to be one at that time. Plus keep in mind that at the end of KH3D Sora went off to "save" Roxas (and probably Xion too) because he believes he deserves his own existence, this is probably when he will become a master.

 

I could be wrong but if my memory serves me Mickey was taking the mark of mastery during BBS

[shadowgarion 6]

I could be wrong but if my memory serves me Mickey was taking the mark of mastery during BBS

 

never mind that, i realized i was wrong shortly after putting it.

[VoidXName 346]

 

I think you are reaching here. We know for a fact that Vens heart was in Sora.There is no proof that Roxas ever grew his own heart .He had Vens appearance bc Vens heart was in Roxas. We also know Nomura said that when Roxas defeated Xion he awakened the ability to dual wield bc of Ven. He has one keyblade bc of Sora and the second bc of Ven. You cant deny Nomuras own words .When i wake up in the morning ill go look for the interview but im also pretty sure you know what interview im refering to.bc you have been in threads with me discussing this before .THat and Soras heart was extremely strong thats why it was able to heal a fractured Vens heart .It cant be stronger than a sleeping heart taken refuge with another heart. That wouldnt make sense..

 

lol a little late, but I already said a couple of very good reasons as to why Roxas would have his own heart.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

lol a little late, but I already said a couple of very good reasons as to why Roxas would have his own heart.

 

Not really ..Read the links to the interviews on this thread ..Already proved this theory wrong ..sorry ..Nomuras words are canon .Also it makes no sense to say that Vens heart would be stronger when its asleep and was there to heal in the first place .You cant argue with Nomuras own words ..Also Someones heart can only influence the appearance if the heart is IN the body .So your own words also damned your own reasons Anyways , nice try though Edited April 9, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on

[VoidXName 346]

Or Ven's heart DID stay with Sora's body in the creation of Roxas, but perhaps BECAUSE Ven's heart was still fractured it couldn't sustain Roxas on it's own, so Roxas's body grew it's own heart.

 

This is actually what I was referring to.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

This is actually what I was referring to.

 

This might be possible in that aspect if you are saying roxas had both vens heart and a newly grown heart . .But the point originally made was that Sora could wield on his own and could duel wield bc of Ven and that Sora doesnt need Vens heart to wield just to duel wield.

[Skai 3,961]

I see a lot of people on this site and others complaining about how Sora didn't become a keyblade master while Riku did. I for one think this is how it should be. Sora is very naive and immature at times. Yes he's very powerful, but being a keyblade master isn't all about power as Terra found out the hard way. Riku may have fell to the darkness, but he grew and matured because of it. Now he isn't scared of the darkness nor is he naive. He accepts the darkness now and uses it for good. During the MoM exam Sora's naivety led him to almost becoming another Xehanort and helping Xehanort start a war. He had to be saved due to his naivety by Lea, Riku, and Mickey.

 

Now look guys this isn't a slight against Sora in anyway, but I just think it's fitting that Sora didn't become a keyblade master here because he needs to grow and mature just like Riku did. Being a keyblade master isn't just about power, but about wisdom, experience, and maturing.

 

What do you guys think? Do you guys think Sora should've become a keyblade master?

 

But Terra deserved to be a master. The way I see it the only reason Terra didn't become one is because Eraqus succumbed to the light. Terra showed mastery, and he wasn't using the darkness for evil. His heart is pure, imo, he just has the power of darkness.

 

It may not be a Pure Heart of Light, but its a Pure Heart nonetheless. Just like how Riku has some dark powers in him. Darkness isn't necessarily bad.

 

Sora has Mastery of the Keyblade, but not of his heart. I agree that he doesn't deserve the title of Master.

Edited April 9, 2012 by StrongHeart

[Bosh104 51]

I just think Riku genuinely went through a harder internal struggle, so he had what it takes to become master. Sora is ehh.. he's strong, but no, I dont think he's fit to be master either. Doesnt mean he wont be able to totally murder all the bad guys by kh3, but like sorariku17 said, i feel it's just a title. But, since nomura said kh will continue after xehanort saga, and sora will always be the main hero, i think he'll become master EVENTUALLY...

[Skai 3,961]

I just think Riku genuinely went through a harder internal struggle, so he had what it takes to become master. Sora is ehh.. he's strong, but no, I dont think he's fit to be master either. Doesnt mean he wont be able to totally murder all the bad guys by kh3, but like sorariku17 said, i feel it's just a title. But, since nomura said kh will continue after xehanort saga, and sora will always be the main hero, i think he'll become master EVENTUALLY...

 

Does he need the title of master? haha. I think if he doesn't think about it, it will come to him.

[Bosh104 51]

Does he need the title of master? haha. I think if he doesn't think about it, it will come to him.

 

I mean as a Master you can get an apprentice, pass down the Keyblade, call a MoM exam, and change worlds apparently... How is any of that necessary to fight Xehanort directly? Well you can suck someone's heart out to, but i dont expect Sora to use that

Edited April 9, 2012 by Bosh104

[DarkRebellionX 7]

I think this makes sense for Riku to have made the MoM rather than Sora at this point. Its a lot like how Ven was too inexperienced as well, he needs to mature more. Also if you remember, Riku was originally supossed to weild the keyblade over Sora, it only went to Sora because of the darkness Riku held in his heart at that time.

[Kenan Cooper 0]

It seems like Sora didn't even get a chance to prove himself, seeing as he only had a battle against Xemnas, while Riku fought Anti black coat nightmare, ansem v1, ansem v2, young xehanort, and Nightmare Ventus. I truly think they either both should have become keyblade masters, or neither.

[schlosserm 8]

Sora immature? Being positive do not mean being immature. And in the disney universe be positive is the greatest wisdom of all, that is how Sora have done such miracles.

He has the enough strenght to beat xemnas alone, not too strong as riku anyways but he never fight alone :').

 

I think Yen Sid did not title Sora because he didnt need to prove nothing (and not even cares ), when riku felt insecure about wielding the keyblade.

And probably Sora, cause the XH's incident, have not adquired the dreams powers that riku did.

[baptiscool19 68]

i would have actually like that both sora and riku pass the mark of mastery cause that would have proven to aqua that two keyblade wielders or masters can still be friends and not suffer from what terra and her had.

[Zenithia 305]

tutti frutti. Not particularly, it takes learning to really be able to grow from experience in life in general. Yeah, Sora often gave the benefit of the doubt to others, but in turn can we really say that he has learned anything outside of the Keyblade and fighting. In KH3D, it made me wonder what Sora really learned through the experience outside of needing to train. Riku understood what had to be done due to what the situation had brought and in turn was able to accomplish what needed to be done. If in KH3, Sora appears to have learned more between KH3 and KH3D, then he may have that chance of earning the title of Master. Throughout the series, Riku seemed to have learned and grown more in the series than Sora has IMO.

[Caity 3,946]

I wonder,if Sora will lose his Keyblade once Ven awakens...

 

Nah.He'll probably keep it but it would make sense,since he can only wield one because of Ventus.

 

Old post, but I just had to point out remember in KH1 the Keyblade chooses Sora (instead of Riku who inherited it) when Riku choose the darkness. It's the light within Sora that allows him to wield it.

[Oblivian's Othekeeper 0]

I think once ven wakes up sora still keeps the keyblade but loses the capability to dual wield since their hearts are connected stronger than any of sora's other friends (that's what I think not know)

 

Ps I think sora had a good chance at becoming a master he just didn't think like riku did throughout the test

Edited February 25, 2013 by WakelessDream

[Weiss 8,279]

I think he should become one in kh3