KH3D Sora might not be one of the 7 lights

[Skai 3,961]

The Seven Lights.

 

First of all everyone has this theory that Sora is part of the 7 lights, but a closer look to the newly translated and subbed videos say otherwise.

 

Xehanort said the X-Blade was split into 7 Lights and 13 Darknesses a long time ago. But Sora can't possibly be one of those seven. Why? Because he originally wasn't fit to wield it in the first place. The only reason he can is because he is borrowing his friend's strength according to (Braig/Xigbar)-nort. Literally, he's using Ven's power to wield a keyblade. So if he wasn't originally destined to hold a keyblade, he couldn't have been one of the 7 Lights because they were destined to be keyblade wielders. (This whole destiny thing is big because Xehanort talks about it in the end and that destinies are fixed, but Lea proves him wrong and therefore Sora changed his destiny by connecting his heart with Ven.) So basically, Sora and those who originally was him Roxas and Xion can't be any of the Lights. The Lights already had the capacity to hold a keyblade from the beginning, when the X-Blade shattered.

 

So who are the 7?

Riku

Mickey

Lea

Kairi

Aqua

Ven

 

Terra, can't because his body is a vessel for the 13

Eraqus' body is yet to be found, in fact he isn't even mentioned in any other game besides BbS. His body could be a vessel if not already.

Roxas and Xion don't have bodies.

Yen Sid has renounced his title

Namine is in Kairi, but also deeply connected to Sora.

The Master (Eraqus' and Xehanorts master that is mentioned in Xehanort's Letters and Reports) I don't think he will be introduced.

 

A possible one is Xehanort, from a different timeline. Remember, destinies can be changed. So what if one of the Xehanorts from a different realm was good. It would be a big surprise to MX and a complete irony. I know it's far fetched, but it would be nice to have a sort of redemption.

 

Anyways, who ever the 7th light is, Sora will still take part in the final battle. Why? Because destinies can be changed. The prophecy did say for 7 to fight against 13, but it didn't say no one else could participate.

 

So I imagine Sora to make a hero's entrance helping them out in the middle of battle.

 

Where was he?

Off on his journey. Remember, he wanted Roxas to be his own person, and maybe his journey might have finally done it. And not only Roxas, maybe even Xion, who is the character that has been the most unjustly treated out of all of them. Maybe since Namine is connected to Sora, she might also have been made into her own person.

How is this possible?

Some nobodies have the capacity to grow hearts. I'm sure Roxas and Namine are two of the few.

What about Xion?

She's a replica of Sora, but nonetheless, if Nobodies could grow hearts, why can't a replica?

 

Other possibilities,

Riku Replica, he was made to fight for the original Organization 13, paricularly by Vexen. But Vexen, or should I say Even is a good guy or at least not on Xehanort's side anymore. If Even gets a good ending, RR should too. RR isn't a nobody, but he's a replica, just like Xion and he was just an innocent victim in the Castle Oblivion incident.

Data Sora and Riku, although they don't really need their own body, it would be nice if they helped just during the fight. If you really wanted them.

 

 

So Sora comes to save them and evens the playing field. And one by one they show up.

 

It would be nice if Sora was a Light, but based on the information we've gotten, he shouldn't be.

 

Any insights?

Edited April 2, 2012 by StrongHeart

[XIIISwords 1,059]

What about Lea? He could be the seventh.

[Skai 3,961]

What about Lea? He could be the seventh.

 

Lea is already part of the list.

[XIIISwords 1,059]

Lea is already part of the list.

 

lol, my bad! I read through it twice and didn't see him. Maybe I need sleep...

 

Sounds good. Namine can't be one if Roxas and Xion aren't. Terra is as always debatable, but I do like the idea of a good Nort. But that's really out in left field, even for Square Enix.

[Skai 3,961]

lol, my bad! I read through it twice and didn't see him. Maybe I need sleep...

 

Sounds good. Namine can't be one if Roxas and Xion aren't. Terra is as always debatable, but I do like the idea of a good Nort. But that's really out in left field, even for Square Enix.

 

I'd like to hope that everyone can be redeemed. I wouldn't want the 7th to be some random person.

[Luna☆ 108]

It's Sora, I'm not sure but I think Xehanort said that Sora was one of the Seven Lights.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Luna☆

[Skai 3,961]

It's Sora, I'm not sure but I think Xehanort said that Sora was one of the Seven Lights.

 

He didn't say that. o-o He said that since he was using Sora as a vessel he couldn't possibly be one of them. Then Lea saves Sora, but it isn't confirmed that he was a light. Xehanort said 7 lights were originally keyblade wielders. Sora was not an orginal keyblade wielder.

Edited April 2, 2012 by StrongHeart

[Keyblade King 12 486]

I don't see why it can't be Sora if I'm being perfectly honest, he may have been borrowing Ven's power but not during the time that Ven's heart was inside of Roxas. During that time, Sora was using his own ability showing he can weild a keyblade even without Ven, making me believe he will be one of the seven. And if not him, then who?

 

I also think you're taking the term 'original' too far. MX only says keyblade wielders. Sora can wield a keyblade. And his memories even allow others to be able to wield them as well (Xion). Roxas was using Ven's heart as well, so I don't see how you can say he's a candidate but not Sora. That's just confusing.

 

Realistically, if it's not Sora then there isn't really anyone else who can take his place.

 

Oh and by the way, I don't believe Nobodies can just grow feelings and hearts. Roxas' emotions comes from Ven's heart. Axel's apparent emotions probably come from his memories of Ven or something similar. Xemnas' emotions come from Terra's heart. And finally, Naminé. Although people say she has emotions, I have my doubts to be honest. I mean, she can easily tell Xion and Roxas that neither of them are supposed to exist. Seems pretty heartless to me.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Keyblade King 12

[Remains of Old 117]

I think Sora will be, for a short period of time, on the 13 darknesses side. (in KH3)

But the rest of the time he will be on the the 7 lights side.

The list is this:

1-Mickey

2-Riku

3-Sora

4-Kairi

5-Aqua

6-Ventus

7-Terra.

 

For me, obviously there's not much of a proof.

[AJTREY 70]

He didn't say that. o-o He said that since he was using Sora as a vessel couldn't possibly be one of them. Then Lea saves Sora, but it isn't confirmed that he was a light. Xehanort said 7 lights were originally keyblade wielderes. Sora was not an orginal keyblade wielder.

 

Then by your logic, neither are Riku or Lea (?). Well, perhaps Lea, since he was able to summon the keyblade, but Riku was given the power to do so by another- not exactly original.

If you read it, it should be originally keyblade wielders. Technically, that means that anyone who is able to wield the keyblade could be one of the lights. Sora, Riku, and Lea included

[woolfman1994 19]

The Seven Lights.

 

First of all everyone has this theory that Sora is part of the 7 lights, but a closer look to the newly translated and subbed videos say otherwise.

 

Xehanort said the X-Blade was split into 7 Lights and 13 Darknesses a long time ago. But Sora can't possibly be one of those seven. Why? Because he originally wasn't fit to wield it in the first place. The only reason he can is because he is borrowing his friend's strength according to (Braig/Xigbar)-nort. Literally, he's using Ven's power to wield a keyblade. So if he wasn't originally destined to hold a keyblade, he couldn't have been one of the 7 Lights because they were destined to be keyblade wielders. (This whole destiny thing is big because Xehanort talks about it in the end and that destinies are fixed, but Lea proves him wrong and therefore Sora changed his destiny by connecting his heart with Ven.) So basically, Sora and those who originally was him Roxas and Xion can't be any of the Lights. The Lights already had the capacity to hold a keyblade from the beginning, when the X-Blade shattered.

 

So who are the 7?

Riku

Mickey

Lea

Kairi

Aqua

Ven

 

Terra, can't because his body is a vessel for the 13

Eraqus' body is yet to be found, in fact he isn't even mentioned in any other game besides BbS. His body could be a vessel if not already.

Roxas and Xion don't have bodies.

Yen Sid has renounced his title

Namine is in Kairi, but also deeply connected to Sora.

The Master (Eraqus' and Xehanorts master that is mentioned in Xehanort's Letters and Reports) I don't think he will be introduced.

 

A possible one is Xehanort, from a different timeline. Remember, destinies can be changed. So what if one of the Xehanorts from a different realm was good. It would be a big surprise to MX and a complete irony. I know it's far fetched, but it would be nice to have a sort of redemption.

 

Anyways, who ever the 7th light is, Sora will still take part in the final battle. Why? Because destinies can be changed. The prophecy did say for 7 to fight against 13, but it didn't say no one else could participate.

 

So I imagine Sora to make a hero's entrance helping them out in the middle of battle.

 

Where was he?

Off on his journey. Remember, he wanted Roxas to be his own person, and maybe his journey might have finally done it. And not only Roxas, maybe even Xion, who is the character that has been the most unjustly treated out of all of them. Maybe since Namine is connected to Sora, she might also have been made into her own person.

How is this possible?

Some nobodies have the capacity to grow hearts. I'm sure Roxas and Namine are two of the few.

What about Xion?

She's a replica of Sora, but nonetheless, if Nobodies could grow hearts, why can't a replica?

 

Other possibilities,

Riku Replica, he was made to fight for the original Organization 13, paricularly by Vexen. But Vexen, or should I say Even is a good guy or at least not on Xehanort's side anymore. If Even gets a good ending, RR should too. RR isn't a nobody, but he's a replica, just like Xion and he was just an innocent victim in the Castle Oblivion incident.

Data Sora and Riku, although they don't really need their own body, it would be nice if they helped just during the fight. If you really wanted them.

 

 

So Sora comes to save them and evens the playing field. And one by one they show up.

 

It would be nice if Sora was a Light, but based on the information we've gotten, he shouldn't be.

 

Any insights?

 

I get where you are coming from.

But, KH3 isnt about sora's journey just to help Roxas. In KH3 Ven, Aqua, Terra, Roxas, Namine, and Xion all the people suffering will be saved Nomura said he planned for this. The opening of KH3d show Sora, Riku, Mickey, Roxas, Ven, Terra, Aqua using their keyblades and preparing for a battle. Weather he borrowed his friends heart or not he still has a very strong heart, he had courage to accept a stranger heart to murge with him two differant times. He stayed loyal and true to his friends. Sora was destined to get they keybalde from the very start. Just merging with Ven's heart sped up the process. In the secret ending Mickey says Lea went back to radiant garden. And Kairi probably wont be prepared to fight just yet.

[Luna☆ 108]

He didn't say that. o-o He said that since he was using Sora as a vessel he couldn't possibly be one of them. Then Lea saves Sora, but it isn't confirmed that he was a light. Xehanort said 7 lights were originally keyblade wielders. Sora was not an orginal keyblade wielder.

 

Okay sorry my bad but I still think is Sora.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Luna☆

[Skai 3,961]

I think Sora will be, for a short period of time, on the 13 darknesses side. (in KH3)

But the rest of the time he will be on the the 7 lights side.

The list is this:

1-Mickey

2-Riku

3-Sora

4-Kairi

5-Aqua

6-Ventus

7-Terra.

 

For me, obviously there's not much of a proof.

 

Terra can't be one.

 

 

 

Then by your logic, neither are Riku or Lea (?). Well, perhaps Lea, since he was able to summon the keyblade, but Riku was given the power to do so by another- not exactly original.

If you read it, it should be originally keyblade wielders. Technically, that means that anyone who is able to wield the keyblade could be one of the lights. Sora, Riku, and Lea included

 

No, Riku wasn't given the power.

 

"In your hand, take this key. So long as you have the makings, then trough this simple act of taking, its wielder you shall one day be. And you will find me, friend no ocean will contain you then. No more borders around, or below, or above, so long as you cherish the ones you love"

 

According to the Inheritance Ceremony, Riku had to have the makings, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to use it. Therefore he had the power to hold one. But Sora simply took in Ven's heart.

[Remains of Old 117]

Terra can't be one.

 

Why?

[Skai 3,961]

I get where you are coming from.

But, KH3 isnt about sora's journey just to help Roxas. In KH3 Ven, Aqua, Terra, Roxas, Namine, and Xion all the people suffering will be saved Nomura said he planned for this. The opening of KH3d show Sora, Riku, Mickey, Roxas, Ven, Terra, Aqua using their keyblades and preparing for a battle. Weather he borrowed his friends heart or not he still has a very strong heart, he had courage to accept a stranger heart to murge with him two differant times. He stayed loyal and true to his friends. Sora was destined to get they keybalde from the very start. Just merging with Ven's heart sped up the process. In the secret ending Mickey says Lea went back to radiant garden. And Kairi probably wont be prepared to fight just yet.

 

I'm not arguing with you there, HE is the main character. But he doesn't have to be a light to make an impact in the battle. The opening of KH3D could be the biggest spoiler or could just be a promotional scene. The people who are shown to fight, doesn't necessarily mean the 7 lights.

 

Why?

 

His body is being used as a vessel for the 13 darknesses. Like I said above and his heart is partially in Riku.

[Remains of Old 117]

His body is being used as a vessel for the 13 darknesses. Like I said above and his heart is partially in Riku.

 

Yeah, so let me continue with some things i think:

Option 1: Terra wil somehow get to go to the 7 lights side

Option 2: Apprentice Xehanort was split in two, and that's why Master Xehanort appeared as his old Geezer form again,and Terra appeared as himself again. However Terra's still at the ''dark side'' of the force and Eraqus will somehow appear too, and he will complete the 7 lights.

[Skai 3,961]

Yeah, so let me continue with some things i think:

Option 1: Terra wil somehow get to go to the 7 lights side

Option 2: Apprentice Xehanort was split in two, and that's why Master Xehanort appeared as his old Geezer form again,and Terra appeared as himself again. However Terra's still at the ''dark side'' of the force and Eraqus will somehow appear too, and he will complete the 7 lights.

 

If option 2 is what did happen, Xehanort said that Terra is still being used as a vessel.

Edited April 2, 2012 by StrongHeart

[Lex 3]

Given the running series trope "Sora breaks all the rules," coupled with Roxas's "that's why it has to be you" speech and Sora's "screw the rules, I have my friends" speech when it was revealed that he really has no proper ties to the Keyblade, I'm gonna go with Sora being the seventh light.

[Chosenl 3]

I believe that the real issue here is what the hell happened to Terra? I believe that Terra is NOT in Organization 13, and that he is the 7th light. Why? Take a look at what Mickey says in this scene. He mentions the 7 lights as Mickey, Sora, Riku, and the missing three (Aqua, Terra, Ventus). Then he says the following:

This sounds like he knows who the last one is (doesn't know at this point about Lea or Kairi). Then you have Master Xehanort reply the following:

The Last one!!!! Xehanort mentions that the 7th light that Mickey thought of is actually a member of the 13 Darkness. So from this, I believe that Terra is not in the 13 Darkness. Terra's status is unknown right now, but I'm sure that he completes the 7 lights.

 

The 7 lights are:

1-Mickey

2-Riku

3-Kairi

4-Lea

5-Aqua

6-Ventus

7-Terra

 

 

So who is this "last one"? I can't think of any other keyblade wielder except Eraqus. Unless its "THE MASTER" of Eraqus and Xehanort. Who knows....

[Chosenl 3]

Now for Sora, who isn't a true Keyblade Wielder.

It has been mentioned many times, by Ansem through Riku in KH1, from Braig in KH2 and 3DS, and from Master Xehanort in 3DS. That Sora isn't a Keyblade Wielder. Remember in KH1 when Riku summoned the keyblade right out of Sora's hand? How did Sora get it back? His heart started to reconnect with Ven's heart that lies in slumber deep within him. That's why he says the same things the Ventus says, though at this point Sora thought it was his own words, but it was actually Ventus speaking.

Ventus got the keyblade back for Sora. But he does have his own power.

So he's not one of the 7 lights. But they did say that Sora will always be the hero.

This is all my speculation. But I think my statement about Terra is spot on.

[Eterna 274]

You could just argue that fate made Sora a Keyblade wielder. He may not have been born one, but neither was Lea.

Edited April 3, 2012 by Eterna

[shadowgarion 6]

You guys are all forgetting one very important thing and that is that even the keyblade can be passed on from master to student, the keyblade is also capable of choosing its wielder if their heart is strong enough (A.K.A. Sora). It doesnt matter whether Sora was originally allowed to use the keyblade through Ven because he has proven time and again that his heart is strong enough to wield it. Also to the whole Xehanort saying that Sora is a darkness thing, have any of you heard of Villains playing mind games to get into the heroes' heads, it only happens in just about everything.

[Edum Bot 7]

1) Sora

2) Riku

3) Mickey

4) Ven

5) Aqua

6) Terra

7) Roxas

 

Why? Well...obviously,I'm the only one who watched the opening.

 

inb4 nO U gOT IT AlL wROnG

Edited April 5, 2012 by Edum Bot

[shadowgarion 6]

Technically you can't count Kairi considering she is a princess of light and the Seven lights are supposed to protect them, all Kairi is doing is learning to use the keyblade so she can protect herself. We also haven't been able to confirm what it is that Lea is doing in Radiant Gardens, be it training on his own or searching for the other organization members like he originally said he was going to do. As for Roxas and Xion, its obvious they will show up being "complete" somewhere in KH3 and fighting for the light (whether as a light or not) because Sora went off to "save" them at the end of DDD. Also keep in mind that Ven still needs to wake up and Aqua still needs to escape from the Realm of Darkness (even though i have no idea as to why she has yet to do so).

[legendkiller222 22]

Kairi is not confirmed to be a guardian of light. I do not get why people are discounting Sora and counting Kairi when Mickey never stated Kairi's name as a light and he did state Sora's name. He also confirmed TAV, Riku, and himself. Then he said a last one, but didn't go further cause MX interrupted with "However, both Sora and the last one are on our side". We only know Kairi is going to be trained to wield a keyblade as she is now a target of MX. Sora is guardian a light, he is one of the 7 and we do not know the last one, but he is on MX's side (It's not Terra as he was not referred to as the "last one", but as one of the three that are still missing).