KH3D Did Nomura say Vanitas would be back? If so we have a problem.

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

Xehanort might have his last vessel, and im not talking about Vanitas.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Spencer Ellis Norman

[Moni_22 335]

Emmm... What do you mean?

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

  On 4/2/2012 at 6:17 PM, 'Moni_22' said:

Emmm... What do you mean?

 

Well arent Ven and Vanitas connected? Like once can sense where the other is?

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:19 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

Well arent Ven and Vanitas connected? Like once can sense where the other is?

 

If Vanitas is really back, he could be one of the new Organization, OR he couldn't be. Maybe he's in his own. But I think he isn't back yet, at least until Ven wakes up.

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

  On 4/2/2012 at 6:22 PM, 'Moni_22' said:

If Vanitas is really back, he could be one of the new Organization, OR he couldn't be. Maybe he's in his own. But I think he isn't back yet, at least until Ven wakes up.

 

No, no, thats not where im getting at. Remember Ven is technically an open vessel now, just a lifeless body. Xemnas still knows that Ven is somewhere in Castle Oblivion so he'll end up telling MX. If Vanitas is back itll make it that much easier to track him down. Remember MX has a KEylbade, he can undo whatever Aqua did to lock Ven up. Instant vessel.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:26 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

No, no, thats not where im getting at. Remember Ven is technically an open vessel now, just a lifeless body. Xemnas still knows that Ven is somewhere in Castle Oblivion so he'll end up telling MX. If Vanitas is back itll make it that much easier to track him down. Remember MX has a KEylbade, he can undo whatever Aqua did to lock Ven up. Instant vessel.

 

that my friend is an impossibility. only aqua knows the layout of castle oblivion so even if vanitas comes back they'll be lost in the castle.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:28 PM, 'UltSonicEx' said:

that my friend is an impossibility. only aqua knows the layout of castle oblivion so even if vanitas comes back they'll be lost in the castle.

 

Thr Org spent a good amount of time in it, the probably learned something. Plus Vanitas would know exaclty where he was taken theyre the same person.

[Moni_22 335]

  On 4/2/2012 at 6:26 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

No, no, thats not where im getting at. Remember Ven is technically an open vessel now, just a lifeless body. Xemnas still knows that Ven is somewhere in Castle Oblivion so he'll end up telling MX. If Vanitas is back itll make it that much easier to track him down. Remember MX has a KEylbade, he can undo whatever Aqua did to lock Ven up. Instant vessel.

 

Oh, yeah. But who knows, everything can happen. Xemnas knows that Ventus is in CO, but he doesn't know exactly where. Maybe, the first thing Sora and the others are going to do is to try to awake Ventus, and search Aqua.

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

Or MX will pop up out of nowhere as soon as they find him, i dont think he'll pass up an oppurtunity of a new vessel, especially one of a Keyblade wielder he used to train.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:30 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

Thr Org spent a good amount of time in it, the probably learned something. Plus Vanitas would know exaclty where he was taken theyre the same person.

 

In Days the Organization members that survived(so Axel basically) said that after all of that time searching they weren't even close to finding Ven

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:08 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

Xehanort might have his last vessel, and im not talking about Vanitas.

 

he means sora

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But with Vanitas itll make it that much easier.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:38 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

But with Vanitas itll make it that much easier.

 

ok but he told riku and micky that sora would be his next vessel

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

  On 4/2/2012 at 6:39 PM, 'Kevin James Jimenez' said:

ok but he told riku and micky that sora would be his next vessel

 

but that failed

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:40 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

but that failed

 

vanitas good side is inside sora so either way he needs sora.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:41 PM, 'Kevin James Jimenez' said:

vanitas good side is inside sora so either way he needs sora.

 

vanitas is pure evil, there is no good side

[Moni_22 335]

I'm still thinking that if Ventus is sleeping Vanitas is as well, since both of them share the same heart.

 

  On 4/2/2012 at 6:42 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

vanitas is pure evil, there is no good side

 

Vanitas is not pure evil, he is pure darkness. The novel says that he wasn't evil at first.

Edited April 2, 2012 by Moni_22

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:42 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

vanitas is pure evil, there is no good side

 

he came out of ventus's heart's darkness.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:46 PM, 'Moni_22' said:

I'm still thinking that if Ventus is sleeping Vanitas is as well, since both of them share the same heart.

 

 

 

Vanitas is not pure evil, he is pure darkness. The novel states that he wasn't evil at first.

 

you have a point

[Voxeril 2]

Vanitas is Red Eyes, and by the looks of it he has been reborn in Riku's image (when he appears he copys the dream eater symbol of Riku's back, what else has he copyed?)

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  On 4/2/2012 at 6:26 PM, 'Spencer Ellis Norman' said:

No, no, thats not where im getting at. Remember Ven is technically an open vessel now, just a lifeless body. Xemnas still knows that Ven is somewhere in Castle Oblivion so he'll end up telling MX. If Vanitas is back itll make it that much easier to track him down. Remember MX has a KEylbade, he can undo whatever Aqua did to lock Ven up. Instant vessel.

 

Sora had a KEylbade and he didn't find Ventus. Neither did Riku.

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If Ven became a vessel, they would have to introduce other Keyblade Wielders to fill in the 7 Lights and that would just suck.

 

Then the 7 lights would be?

Sora

Mickey

Riku

Lea

Kairi

Aqua?

And who? No one

 

Terra can't be one since he is a vessel for Xehanort.

Eraqus' body is yet to be found. A possible vessel if not already one, and I don't think Yen Sid could locate him.

Roxas doesn't have a body and refuses to leave Sora.

Xion is in the same predicament as Roxas, but Sora doesn't even know her name.

Namine is in Kairi so no go for her too.

Yen Sid has renounced his title and although it would be cool, it's unlikely.

Eraqus' and Xehanorts' Master, called The Master in Xehanort's Letters. He hasn't been introduced and it would be counter intuitive to introduce him in KH3.

 

But there is one. What if they got a Xehanort from a different timeline that was good? That would be the biggest irony and very interesting. A possible redemption for the character. But most likely, Ven is one of the Lights and not a vessel for the 13th Darkness. Also, Xehanort has accounted for these things so just being half a being is enough, hence Xemnas, Ansem: SoD. Vanitas is just like them, half of a person and therefore qualifies as a Vessel.

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  On 4/2/2012 at 10:06 PM, 'Voxeril' said:

Vanitas is Red Eyes, and by the looks of it he has been reborn in Riku's image (when he appears he copys the dream eater symbol of Riku's back, what else has he copyed?)

 

This is unconfirmed, and there's really not much evidence to back it up either.

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Ventus will eventually be awoken, i'm positive Vanitas will ''awake'' when Ventus does too, so, if that happens beforeKH3, then Vanitas will definitely be part of the Organization.

Hey, this made me think about it: What if Vanitas goes back inside Ventus.

Oh, and now, this also made me think about it, if Vanitas appears, Unversed would appear too, right? I bet Nomura don't want unversed appearing again, so maybe, when Ventus awakes, Vanitas will reunite with him right away, and Ven would be ''normal'' like the rest of everyone, instead of pure light, right?

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  On 4/2/2012 at 10:26 PM, 'Burgundy' said:

This is unconfirmed, and there's really not much evidence to back it up either.

 

Plus its in the air that the Red-Eyes is Soras Nightmare.

 

  On 4/2/2012 at 10:59 PM, 'Xirog' said:

Ventus will eventually be awoken, i'm positive Vanitas will ''awake'' when Ventus does too, so, if that happens beforeKH3, then Vanitas will definitely be part of the Organization.

Hey, this made me think about it: What if Vanitas goes back inside Ventus.

Oh, and now, this also made me think about it, if Vanitas appears, Unversed would appear too, right? I bet Nomura don't want unversed appearing again, so maybe, when Ventus awakes, Vanitas will reunite with him right away, and Ven would be ''normal'' like the rest of everyone, instead of pure light, right?

 

Idk, if Vanitas doesnt joine with him, does that mean Ven will have a pure heart of light?

 

  On 4/2/2012 at 10:21 PM, 'XIIISwords' said:

Sora had a KEylbade and he didn't find Ventus. Neither did Riku.

 

They werent looking for him, im not saying the Keyblade will track him down but it will unlock any lock made to protect Ven. Xehanort is a Master, im most sure he could find his way.