legendkiller222 22 Posted April 1, 2012 Mickey said the seven lights are him, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven and the last one...then MX says but I have Sora and the last one on my side. So, the last one isn't Terra because of the way Mickey said it. Mickey exactly says "Me, Sora, Riku, then three that are still missing...that's six, and the last one would be..." MX says, "But the last one and Sora are on our side." The dialogue does not indicate that Terra is the last one he is referring to. Lea wasn't know to be a light yet and Kairi being a princess of pure heart and a guardian of light doesn't really make sense. So, I still don't think the last light is known exactly yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) I don't think that the MoM is that important. I think Lea will appear just like in KH 3D, doing things in his own. I also don't, but Yen Sid said at least Sora and Riku would need to be Masters to defeat Master Xehanort, and at the end of 3D, we see that Lea is going to be trained under Yen Sid, so, even if he won't take the MoM, maybe he will just train enough, with time to appear at the end of KH3. Or even on the middle of the history. Reminds me of how Riku appeared at the end KH2 Mickey said the seven lights are him, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven and the last one...then MX says but I have Sora and the last one on my side. So, the last one isn't Terra because of the way Mickey said it. Mickey exactly says "Me, Sora, Riku, then three that are still missing...that's six, and the last one would be..." MX says, "But the last one and Sora are on our side." The dialogue does not indicate that Terra is the last one he is referring to. Lea wasn't know to be a light yet and Kairi being a princess of pure heart and a guardian of light doesn't really make sense. So, I still don't think the last light is known exactly yet. Well, for me, ''the three that are stil missing'' gotta be TAV, and for one of these 3 to be with MX, it must be Terra.And really, one don't need to see sense in Kairi being light and guardian at the same time, for me, it's preety epic to be so important. Edited April 1, 2012 by Xirog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moni_22 335 Posted April 1, 2012 Mickey said the seven lights are him, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven and the last one...then MX says but I have Sora and the last one on my side. So, the last one isn't Terra because of the way Mickey said it. Mickey exactly says "Me, Sora, Riku, then three that are still missing...that's six, and the last one would be..." MX says, "But the last one and Sora are on our side." The dialogue does not indicate that Terra is the last one he is referring to. Lea wasn't know to be a light yet and Kairi being a princess of pure heart and a guardian of light doesn't really make sense. So, I still don't think the last light is known exactly yet. Yeah, I'm confused in that part too. I watched it again, and I think the translation isn't correct. I think Xehanort says "Sora and other two" not "Sora and the last one", because he says "Sora to mohitori no futari" or something like that , and "futari" means "two". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 1, 2012 and "futari" means "two". Today i learned something very important on the internet, honestly, thank you. If he actually says something like '' Sora and the other two are on our side''... I'm kinda confused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legendkiller222 22 Posted April 1, 2012 Yeah, I'm confused in that part too. I watched it again, and I think the translation isn't correct. I think Xehanort says "Sora and other two" not "Sora and the last one", because he says "Sora to mohitori no futari" or something like that , and "futari" means "two". Oh okay, that makes more sense, but there still is a last light that isn't know and is on MX's side. Could the last light be Ansem the Wise? Think about it. He has golden eyes and that is a Xehanort trait. Nobody else has that trait. Could Ansem the Wise have been corrupted, but fought off MX's presence inside him to help Sora and the gang, but now is back under MX's control? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moni_22 335 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Today i learned something very important on the internet, honestly, thank you. If he actually says something like '' Sora and the other two are on our side''... I'm kinda confused. Lol, yeah, I think that just complicate the things even more . Maybe... He was referring to Aqua and Ventus who aren't actually there? Oh okay, that makes more sense, but there still is a last light that isn't know and is on MX's side. Could the last light be Ansem the Wise? Think about it. He has golden eyes and that is a Xehanort trait. Nobody else has that trait. Could Ansem the Wise have been corrupted, but fought off MX's presence inside him to help Sora and the gang, but now is back under MX's control? Ansem TW has orange eyes lol He isn't evil anymore. Edited April 1, 2012 by Moni_22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaden T Ortiz 32 Posted April 1, 2012 Oh okay, that makes more sense, but there still is a last light that isn't know and is on MX's side. Could the last light be Ansem the Wise? Think about it. He has golden eyes and that is a Xehanort trait. Nobody else has that trait. Could Ansem the Wise have been corrupted, but fought off MX's presence inside him to help Sora and the gang, but now is back under MX's control? Well AtW does not have the keybalde and all of the lights so far can wield the keybalde. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remains of Old 117 Posted April 1, 2012 Don't forget that Hearts of Light are the princesses, and that on the ending, Mickey was talking about the 7 Guardians of Light, and they're the same as Keyblade Wielders, so yeah, if AtW suddenly became able to wield a Keyblade, my mind would blow. Lol, yeah, I think that just complicate the things even more . Maybe... He was referring to Aqua and Ventus who aren't actually there? Hum, if one thinks of Ventus and Vanitas as the same person, then he could have meant Sora, Terra, and Ventus, since Vanitas is on their side.I don't even know if Vanitas is alive, lol. Anyways, i don't think that's the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legendkiller222 22 Posted April 1, 2012 Well AtW does not have the keybalde and all of the lights so far can wield the keybalde. ATW could have chosen not to battle because he feared if he got weak MX would take control. And @moni_22 I cannot tell much of a difference in eye color from MX and ATW. I don't think we should be so quick to shoot down this idea. I mean it doesn't take much for a person to get a keyblade it seems. Also, ATW has been there since the beginning of the experiments of the heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moni_22 335 Posted April 1, 2012 Don't forget that Hearts of Light are the princesses, and that on the ending, Mickey was talking about the 7 Guardians of Light, and they're the same as Keyblade Wielders, so yeah, if AtW suddenly became able to wield a Keyblade, my mind would blow. Hum, if one thinks of Ventus and Vanitas as the same person, then he could have meant Sora, Terra, and Ventus, since Vanitas is on their side. I don't even know if Vanitas is alive, lol. Anyways, i don't think that's the case. I think it will be better if we just wait the NA version lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DGar 0 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) The seven lights are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Ventus, Lea, and Kairi. Yes, Mickey mentions Terra, but MX then tells him he has 2 of the lights and so there are 3 remaining spots in the seven lights. MX is talking about Sora and Terra because earlier he mentions the fates of TAV and says he took control over Terra. So Terra will be unavailable. The 3 spots reduce to 1 because they save Sora and Lea gets a keyblade. Yensid then calls for Kairi to complete the 7. Edited April 1, 2012 by DGar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyEmerald 73 Posted April 1, 2012 ^ So you're saying that Lea will be temporary take Terra's place in the Seven Guardians? I can see that happening like this, he'll back down and let Terra fight after he's freed after he's hurt during KHIII proably by Isa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DGar 0 Posted April 1, 2012 ^ So you're saying that Lea will be temporary take Terra's place in the Seven Guardians? I can see that happening like this, he'll back down and let Terra fight after he's freed after he's hurt during KHIII proably by Isa. Yeah, I can definitely see that happening. Terra can be that extra light in case something happens to one of the 7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 1, 2012 Im confused about If MX is counting Terra as a darkness then how could he also be one of the lightnesses? He cant be both can he ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Xehanort1690 39 Posted April 1, 2012 Im confused about If MX is counting Terra as a darkness then how could he also be one of the lightnesses? He cant be both can he ? Terra was naturally chosen as one of the 7 lights, but he's most likely being controlled by MX somehow or he's being subdued by MX hence why he said he's on my side. So for him to fight with other lights he's going to need to be saved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Terra was naturally chosen as one of the 7 lights, but he's most likely being controlled by MX somehow or he's being subdued by MX hence why he said he's on my side. So for him to fight with other lights he's going to need to be saved. Thats not what i mean .I know hes a lightness.But what im asking is ,does MX count him as a darkness too? I dont think he can be both . Edited April 1, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Xehanort1690 39 Posted April 1, 2012 Thats not what i mean .I know hes a lightness.But what im asking is ,does MX count him as a darkness too? I dont think he can be both . He never said he was one of the 13 darknesses, only that he has Terra on his side, which could mean a number of things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 1, 2012 He never said he was one of the 13 darknesses, only that he has Terra on his side, which could mean a number of things. Ok thats what i wanted clarification on.It depends where terra is .If hes still AX thats a problem. He needs rescued first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AAG Connor 5 Posted April 1, 2012 according to the secret ending, kairi is the 7th light Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Xehanort1690 39 Posted April 1, 2012 Ok thats what i wanted clarification on.It depends where terra is .If hes still AX thats a problem. He needs rescued first. I wouldn't think he's still AX since MX has returned and MX's heart was in AX, so I don't think AX even exists anymore. Terra's heart may be being supressed by MX, but who knows. This game just gave us more questions than answers. Nomura and his mind screwing ways is beginning to make me mad lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora maniacos 0 Posted April 1, 2012 m xehanort says that both sora and the last one is in our side. sora is leaving so who is the last one???? it might be terra or axel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 1, 2012 I wouldn't think he's still AX since MX has returned and MX's heart was in AX, so I don't think AX even exists anymore. Terra's heart may be being supressed by MX, but who knows. This game just gave us more questions than answers. Nomura and his mind screwing ways is beginning to make me mad lol. Logic should say it would be AX back in the realm of light. Terras heart was fused with MX's.It was Terras body.If it was MX back it would defeat the purpose of him taking over Terra for a younger stronger body(unless its terras body with the appearance of MX?).But you are right with Nomura who knows what loophole he will come up with . m xehanort says that both sora and the last one is in our side. sora is leaving so who is the last one???? it might be terra or axel. It's Terra ,not axel . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kidror 18 Posted April 1, 2012 I believe its Sora, Riku,Mickey,Aqua,Terra (Xehanort even states that one of the protectors is under his control) Ventus and Kairi. So at a set time when all the 13 darknesses are under xehanorts complete control and all the seven lights are trained and ready they will undergo the final battle at the Keyblade Graveyard. How very fitting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora maniacos 0 Posted April 1, 2012 I wouldn't think he's still AX since MX has returned and MX's heart was in AX, so I don't think AX even exists anymore. Terra's heart may be being supressed by MX, but who knows. This game just gave us more questions than answers. Nomura and his mind screwing ways is beginning to make me mad lol. but eraqus is also in terra's heart. and i don't think that mx have taken over terra's heart.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora maniacos 0 Posted April 1, 2012 I wouldn't think he's still AX since MX has returned and MX's heart was in AX, so I don't think AX even exists anymore. Terra's heart may be being supressed by MX, but who knows. This game just gave us more questions than answers. Nomura and his mind screwing ways is beginning to make me mad lol. go see the blank points of birth by sleep and watch carefully what terra and mx say. http://kh13.com/videos/bbs/eng-cut/284-the-heart-that-fought-back/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites