KH3D KH3D ending part 1 with english subtitles is up(MAJOR SPOILERS)

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Alright, i get it now, to technically they weren't defeated (to the death) they were saved by the YMX? right, so terra is still SoD (heartless) and Xemnas (nobody), for once kingdom hearts starts to make sense again!

 

Technically but they have to eventually go back and finish out their own timelines. This story is complicated.LOL

[Kinode 3,056]

Isn't terra Xemnas? since its his body. plus if you look at part 2 you will find something interesting. what i am still wondering, is if terra is xemnas, then whos SoD? since its clear that they aren't nobodys/heartless anymore. Unless They haven't joined bodys again, but i thought sora defeated them both

 

That Xemnas is the nobody from a different timeline. Terranort in another nort.

SoD is both their hearts, I suppose. Without an identity, they were first the hooded Ansem, and after possessing Riku he gained an identity.

[DawningEclipse 38]

Maybe YMX forgot about him? Or maybe bc he already brought back SoD and Xemnas (which were AX's heartless and Nobody) YMX couldn't bring AX back?

 

Im not sure if hes one of the hooded members or being resurrected in the realm of light or what. We do need subtitles to get the whole story .

 

Maybe either way I just want to know how Xehanort got resurrected

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Technically but they have to eventually go back and finish out their own timelines. This story is complicated.LOL

 

this

[VoidXName 346]

Did YMX take SoD and Xemnas out of their timelines BEFORE or AFTER Sora fought them? Bc if he took them out before, then wouldn't that mean that all of the events in KH never actually happened?

[sorariku17 37]

Technically but they have to eventually go back and finish out their own timelines. This story is complicated.LOL

 

oh for **** sake , Is kingdom hearts even gonna be truely understandable for when KH3 comes out. i don't think it will. Nomura will do SOMETHING to make us go "Oh for **** sake *end credits start playing*"

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Did YMX take SoD and Xemnas out of their timelines BEFORE or AFTER Sora fought them? Bc if he took them out before, then wouldn't that mean that all of the events in KH never actually happened?

 

Before and no bc they go back and eventually carry out their fate .It doesnt affect it .

[sorariku17 37]

Did YMX take SoD and Xemnas out of their timelines BEFORE or AFTER Sora fought them? Bc if he took them out before, then wouldn't that mean that all of the events in KH never actually happened?

 

Probs after, due to the fact MX wasn't planning sora from the beginning? He ended up being a hindrance remember. But i love how MX called him a "Average boy"

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Probs after, due to the fact MX wasn't planning sora from the beginning? He ended up being a hindrance remember. But i love how MX called him a "Average boy"

 

Actually its before and YMX was telling him that it was always his fate to end up there and whatnot so Sora was expected .

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

There one factor we're forgetting the secret endin stated that the light within the darkness(aqua) leads to the last key. So I question whether kairi will be the seventh

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

its weird, if they go back wont they live out their fates? Sora will still kill them right? Because if he doesnt thatll change everything and history will change

[DawningEclipse 38]

Before and no bc they go back and eventually carry out their fate .It doesnt affect it .

 

So if we destroy them in KH3 doesnt that mean KH and games up to KH2 never happened? since well if they would be dead in the future and not the past? I mean I know time is a crazy thing, but by logic if you take two beings from the past before they die in their respective timelines and die in the future, that would mean time would have to alter itself just to fix this supposed time paradox

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

its weird, if they go back wont they live out their fates? Sora will still kill them right? Because if he doesnt thatll change everything and history will change

 

Yes they have to go back and everything from the past stays the same.

[Spencer Ellis Norman 63]

How will they meet up in the future then, SoD and Xem will be dead

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

So if we destroy them in KH3 doesnt that mean KH and games up to KH2 never happened? since well if they would be dead in the future and not the past? I mean I know time is a crazy thing, but by logic if you take two beings from the past before they die in their respective timelines and die in the future, that would mean time would have to alter itself just to fix this supposed time paradox

 

Ask Nomura to explain this . I personally hate the time travel story. It leaves plotholes and its very predictable and easy to use to alter story later to fit his agenda IMHO

[DawningEclipse 38]

Ask Nomura to explain this . I personally hate the time travel story. It leaves plotholes and its very predictable and easy to use to alter story later to fit his agenda IMHO

 

I find that as lazy writing, unless Nomura makes it in the next game you send ASOD and Xemnas back into the past somehow with no memory of KH3 and DDD

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I find that as lazy writing, unless Nomura makes it in the next game you send ASOD and Xemnas back into the past somehow with no memory of KH3 and DDD

 

I agree on lazy writing.I hope this is explained more in translated scenes or in KH3 .I love KH, but lets face it sometimes i question Nomura.LOL

[DawningEclipse 38]

I agree on lazy writing.I hope this is explained more in translated scenes or in KH3 .I love KH, but lets face it sometimes i question Nomura.LOL

 

I question alot about KH like what is Terra doing? Is he sitting in the dark reading a book? Eating sea salt ice cream with his masterly father? is he just having a pleasent conversation with Xehanort, or he playing KHBBS through DDD? You decide

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I question alot about KH like what is Terra doing? Is he sitting in the dark reading a book? Eating sea salt ice cream with his masterly father? is he just having a pleasent conversation with Xehanort, or he playing KHBBS through DDD? You decide

 

You would think Terra is AX and would and should be resurrected in the realm of light. However,at this point i cant even say that for sure .

[DawningEclipse 38]

You would think Terra is AX and would and should be resurrected in the realm of light. However,at this point i cant even say that for sure .

 

Considering the fact that nomura stated that once a nobodie and the heartless of the person that lost there heart to darkness is destroyed, you would think AX would be the main leader of the norts. Idk I think DDD could have had a better plot to it. Like maybe MX wasnt really the main nort, but was just a puppet and the main nort was in the shadows.

[PrinceWatermelon 59]

I agree on lazy writing.I hope this is explained more in translated scenes or in KH3 .I love KH, but lets face it sometimes i question Nomura.LOL

 

It really seems like lazy writing. But I have faith in Nomura to explain the time travel thing and go about it in a nice fashion. KHIII is supposed to wrap things up, anyway. Then onto the next saga.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

It really seems like lazy writing. But I have faith in Nomura to explain the time travel thing and go about it in a nice fashion. KHIII is supposed to wrap things up, anyway. Then onto the next saga.

 

Yes i agree. I expected the possession part bc of the eyes/ears and other clues.However, I was surprised that he used time travel bc that seemed too cliche and obvious to explain why we saw all those incarnations of MX in trailers. I expected better so i hope its wrapped up nicely.I expect an epic final battle though.

[VoidXName 346]

 

Actually its before and YMX was telling him that it was always his fate to end up there and whatnot so Sora was expected .

 

Thanks!

 

and yes, I agree using time travel is rather lazy writing. You would think Nomura could think of something better, especially since his time travel theories are leaving so many plot holes.

Edited April 1, 2012 by VoidXName

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Thanks!

 

You're welcome

[Crashrobot55 238]

all of this time travel business is giving me a HUGE headache!!!!! u guys r making me cry http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-cry.png http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smiley-cry.png