nic2134 54 Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I like that theory. If Kairi finds Aqua in the ROD and gets in trouble her necklace will take her to Sora who may be tasked with finding Ventus. I don't think Sora is the one that can be tasked with finding Ventus, the reason being is Aqua is the only one who can navigate completely through the Castle Oblivion, anyone else other than Aqua can only have access to certain places and will get lost trying to locate specific rooms. She set it up this way so that only she would be able to wake Ven. Thats why she apologizes as she is falling into the ROD because she knows no one else will be able to rescue him but her. And sending a Princess of Heart to the ROD would be one of the unwisest things that Yen Sid would ever do. I beleive that Kairi will be trained to use the Keyblade, with Mickey and Riku's help, I think Sora and Aqua will definately need to be located for Ven to be saved and awakened. Because in watching the ending and secret ending it appears that Sora is lost.. Lea doesn't need training, I theorize that all of the memebers of the Organization were made Keybladers before they became Nobodies. Reason being the credential of becoming a nobody is to have a strong heart, coincidentaly you also have to have a strong heart to become a keyblade wielder, plus it requires a keyblade to be able to remove ones heart and if the members of Org XIII were gonna turn them selves into heartless and nobodies they would need keyblades to do the job. But they couldnt use there Keyblades as nobodies because they didnt have hearts right away...(Xemans says a heart can bud..) Roxas was the exception to this because I believe that he was the only Nobody born with a heart, with the combined hearts of Sora and Ven being there to help his to grow faster, and for this reason his heart was connectecd to Sora's he was able to use his Keyblade Edited April 4, 2012 by nic2134 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2012 I don't think Sora is the one that can be tasked with finding Ventus, the reason being is Aqua is the only one who can navigate completely through the Castle Oblivion, anyone else other than Aqua can only have access to certain places and will get lost trying to locate specific rooms. She set it up this way so that only she would be able to wake Ven. Thats why she apologizes as she is falling into the ROD because she knows no one else will be able to rescue him but her. And sending a Princess of Heart to the ROD would be one of the unwisest things that Yen Sid would ever do. I beleive that Kairi will be trained to use the Keyblade, with Mickey and Riku's help, I think Sora and Aqua will definately need to be located for Ven to be saved and awakened. Because in watching the ending and secret ending it appears that Sora is lost.. Lea doesn't need training, I theorize that all of the memebers of the Organization were made Keybladers before they became Nobodies. Reason being the credential of becoming a nobody is to have a strong heart, coincidentaly you also have to have a strong heart to become a keyblade wielder, plus it requires a keyblade to be able to remove ones heart and if the members of Org XIII were gonna turn them selves into heartless and nobodies they would need keyblades to do the job. MX was the one who stabbed them .They didnt see it coming .This was showed in game. They didnt stab themselves let alone have their own keyblades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 4, 2012 What is everyones issue with Kairi being a keyblade wielder? It makes sense as to why she is, and to be honest yes who didnt see that coming? I don't think she is ready for the Mark of Mastery yet and Yen Sid knows this as well, but they don't have time to get her up to par! Xehanort is moving forward with his plans, now for now Riku and Mickey and Lea thwarted Xehanorts plan to make Sora the 13th darkness but, that doesn't mean he cant still find someone to take his place. They need to train Kairi and they need to train her fast, an who knows maybe having a Princess of Heart be a keyblade wielder will be the cause of something Epic in Kingdom Hearts. As far as Roxas coming back I dont think that is something we will ever see, he resides within Sora and I dont think there is a way to make them seperate without weakening Sora again. To be honest I think they should have made Kairi a keyblade wielder a lot sooner than they did! I think it would have made it more exciting to see her set herself free from the prison in KHII by summoning her Keyblade for the first time and unlocking it. Then watching her fight her way to Sora's side, I dont think she is as week and untested as you all say she is either, remember she spent years growing up around Sora and Riku training whos to say she didnt jump in every once in a while? But she def could have picked things up from them. She is stronger than yall give her credit for and I think Nomura is doing the right thing. As far as the secret ending goes, do you doofuses realize that this is a teaser for KH3? FOR KH3!!!! Its coming finally after all this time and all the waiting and all the side stories, and your complaints this is it the end of the Xehanort Trillogy!! If you havnt peed your pants in excitement for even the smallest glimps of the next main titled game you are not a KH fan im sorry your just not. This is leading up to what I imagine will be one of the greatest battle moments in KH, if you saw the opening movie of all of them gathered together to face Xehanort!!! THIS IS IT FOLKS ITS COMING!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 4, 2012 MX was the one who stabbed them .They didnt see it coming .This was showed in game. They didnt stab themselves let alone have their own keyblades. Oh this was shown in KH3D? Sorry I havnt been able to watch all the cutsceens yet cause they dont have them all posted yet So I was just theorizing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2012 Oh this was shown in KH3D? Sorry I havnt been able to watch all the cutsceens yet cause they dont have them all posted yet So I was just theorizing... They are there if you watch the playthrough videos posted.Plus this is in the very beginning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 4, 2012 They are there if you watch the playthrough videos posted.Plus this is in the very beginning. I have only been able to watch whats been uploaded to you tube, the playthrough vids are all on twitch which I cant watch on my phone but once I am able to sit down at a computer and check them out I def will!! thanks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2012 I have only been able to watch whats been uploaded to you tube, the playthrough vids are all on twitch which I cant watch on my phone but once I am able to sit down at a computer and check them out I def will!! thanks!! you are welcome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiney 125 Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I don't understand why there are so many people hate this ending (and it's not just here, in fact there are a lot people here who seem to share my thoughts. I am mainly referring youtube/other forums). We haven't seen cgi secret endings since like...KH2. Re:coded didn't have a great secret ending and I am pretty sure DAYS didn't even have one. Kairi becoming a keybladers is not surprising since we saw she could use one at the since like KH2...so this shouldn't shock anyone. I am GLAD she's getting development b/c this is where all the hate for her comes from. She doesn't have a real personality and that not good for someone who sora supposedly cares about so much. So yeah, those are my thoughts on the issue. T_T But i have a question...do u think MX is going to try and make Sora a vessel in the next game? I'm thinking not but I dunno, just something that came to mind. Edited April 4, 2012 by Spiney Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathaniel Strangman 1 Posted April 4, 2012 What the crap!!! Ok so there are seven princesses. seven people have to protect the princesses. Are the seven people keyblade wielders? and they have to fight the NEW organization. whose's in the NEW organization. Are the seven protectors sora, riku, lea, mickey, kairi, terra, aqua, and ven? and how can kairi be a wielder and a princess? AHHHHHHH!!!!!! and don't lea sora kairi terra and ven need to be masters to fully be able to fight?! what about donald and goofy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nathaniel Strangman 1 Posted April 4, 2012 PLEASE SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME REPLY TO MY COMMENT Dude, has Nomura ever heard of copyright! Nomura, have you ever heard of The Magnificent Seven! Have you never heard of Star wars! The whole terra anakin thing not cool man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DG20 67 Posted April 4, 2012 I don't understand why there are so many people hate this ending (and it's not just here, in fact there are a lot people here who seem to share my thoughts. I am mainly referring youtube/other forums). We haven't seen cgi secret endings since like...KH2. Re:coded didn't have a great secret ending and I am pretty sure DAYS didn't even have one. Kairi becoming a keybladers is not surprising since we saw she could use one at the since like KH2...so this shouldn't shock anyone. I am GLAD she's getting development b/c this is where all the hate for her comes from. She doesn't have a real personality and that not good for someone who sora supposedly cares about so much. So yeah, those are my thoughts on the issue. T_T But i have a question...do u think MX is going to try and make Sora a vessel in the next game? I'm thinking not but I dunno, just something that came to mind. Try this. It's not that everyone hates Kairi. It's that the secret ending, which is supposed to be a hook for the next game, was used instead to mostly tell us something we already long suspected/knew. Kairi is going to be a keyblade weilder. We knew she could weild a keyblade from KH2. That's why it feels like a waste. 3 heyitsdeven, vvendy and NocturnalMelody reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nweintraub 630 Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) I was...one of...the first to see the secret ending before it came to KH13.COM. Edited April 5, 2012 by Nweintraub Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted April 5, 2012 it's isn't the secret ending. just a secret mesege with movie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarknessOrLight 32 Posted April 5, 2012 If Kingdom Hearts 3 is the next game in the series then it would be very long since we would have to still find Aqua, restore Ven, and save Tera. After that fight Xehanort and there would probably be those random quests we have to do in the random disney worlds... I think there might be another game, but not KH3, and that other game has us get back Terra,Aqua and Ven. After that we have KH3 and that mainly focuses on defeating the 13 darknesses. Also, what about Sora, maybe when he left he got taken by Xehanort and ended up to be one of the vessels. We still need to find Sora. I think he is in the dream world because the ending shows him with a lot of Dream Eaters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) I don't understand why there are so many people hate this ending (and it's not just here, in fact there are a lot people here who seem to share my thoughts. I am mainly referring youtube/other forums). We haven't seen cgi secret endings since like...KH2. Re:coded didn't have a great secret ending and I am pretty sure DAYS didn't even have one. Kairi becoming a keybladers is not surprising since we saw she could use one at the since like KH2...so this shouldn't shock anyone. I am GLAD she's getting development b/c this is where all the hate for her comes from. She doesn't have a real personality and that not good for someone who sora supposedly cares about so much. So yeah, those are my thoughts on the issue. T_T But i have a question...do u think MX is going to try and make Sora a vessel in the next game? I'm thinking not but I dunno, just something that came to mind. This is exactly how i feel, I thought that the reveals in the ending and the secret ending were pretty EPIC!! I mean think about it its finally pointing to KHIII its finaly coming!!! If Kingdom Hearts 3 is the next game in the series then it would be very long since we would have to still find Aqua, restore Ven, and save Tera. After that fight Xehanort and there would probably be those random quests we have to do in the random disney worlds... I think there might be another game, but not KH3, and that other game has us get back Terra,Aqua and Ven. After that we have KH3 and that mainly focuses on defeating the 13 darknesses. Also, what about Sora, maybe when he left he got taken by Xehanort and ended up to be one of the vessels. We still need to find Sora. I think he is in the dream world because the ending shows him with a lot of Dream Eaters. Nomura said in multiple interviews that KH3D leads up directly to KHIII so while there may be another game I think it will follow more of the events of what happend after BBS if anything there is nothing else they could do...were pretty much just waiting for the climax!! Try this. It's not that everyone hates Kairi. It's that the secret ending, which is supposed to be a hook for the next game, was used instead to mostly tell us something we already long suspected/knew. Kairi is going to be a keyblade weilder. We knew she could weild a keyblade from KH2. That's why it feels like a waste. Thats not all that was revealed in the secret ending...we learnd of what Master Yen Sid and Mickey need to do in the future, to protect the princesses of Heart, they need the seven lights and we learned that these "seven lights" Are weilders we are familiar with, another thought, nobody seems to notice that they have said they only need one more? (And this one more being Kairi of course). Could this mean that they know where our missing three from BBS are already? And how to save them? Edited April 5, 2012 by nic2134 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 5, 2012 What the crap!!! Ok so there are seven princesses. seven people have to protect the princesses. Are the seven people keyblade wielders? and they have to fight the NEW organization. whose's in the NEW organization. Are the seven protectors sora, riku, lea, mickey, kairi, terra, aqua, and ven? and how can kairi be a wielder and a princess? AHHHHHHH!!!!!! and don't lea sora kairi terra and ven need to be masters to fully be able to fight?! what about donald and goofy It is believed that the seven are Terra, Aqua, Ven, Riku, Kairi, Mickey....the seventh is a toss up between Lea and Sora I think, I am no so sure Sora truly came back at the end I think hes lost, plus what Xehanort said anyway is hes not a true keyblade weilder. They dont need to be masters to be able to fight, would it help yes, but remember Xehanort gave Terra his mark of Mastery in Radient Garden, while he was just manipulating him, we have not been able to confirm if Terra is truely a master. Ven is asleep so obviously he cant take the mark of mastery, but Sora is using Ven's training and power, would it be far fetched to say if Sora ever is recognized as a Master that Ven would be too? 1 Nathaniel Strangman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiney 125 Posted April 5, 2012 Try this. It's not that everyone hates Kairi. It's that the secret ending, which is supposed to be a hook for the next game, was used instead to mostly tell us something we already long suspected/knew. Kairi is going to be a keyblade weilder. We knew she could weild a keyblade from KH2. That's why it feels like a waste. I was just going by what I read from comments/video reactions on youtube but that's a totally legit reason too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clue42 3 Posted April 6, 2012 MX said this before sora was rescued Master Xehanort: That's the King, for you - telling it like it is. But Sora and one more person of two people* belong to this side. Which means the light is lacking three. But don't worry; those who safeguard the light will be chosen naturally. And then the 7 chosen lights and the 13 darknesses will collide, and in the end will give birth to... With whats said above Sora is back on the lights side wile two of them are on MX side. But I thibk the 7L's are Sora Riku Mickey Aqua Kairi Lea Ven?/YS?/ME? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doverz 4 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) MX said this before sora was rescued With whats said above Sora is back on the lights side wile two of them are on MX side. But I thibk the 7L's are Sora Riku Mickey Aqua Kairi Lea Ven?/YS?/ME? MX said this before sora was rescued With whats said above Sora is back on the lights side wile two of them are on MX side. But I thibk the 7L's are Sora Riku Mickey Aqua Kairi Lea Ven?/YS?/ME? In the game, Mickey says that Sora, Riku, Mickey are 3 of the 7 lights as well as the 3 people whose destinies MX helped ruin (Aqua, Ven, and Terra). So, it's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua,, Ven, Terra, and an unknown 7th. I do think that once we get a really good translation or after the game comes out that we'll be more clear on all of this. Edited April 6, 2012 by doverz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inactive user 59 Posted April 7, 2012 KAIRI TAKING THE MARK OF MASTERY HOLY CRAB CAKES, who didn't see that coming PLZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esumsoraroxas 48 Posted April 7, 2012 In the game, Mickey says that Sora, Riku, Mickey are 3 of the 7 lights as well as the 3 people whose destinies MX helped ruin (Aqua, Ven, and Terra). So, it's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua,, Ven, Terra, and an unknown 7th. I do think that once we get a really good translation or after the game comes out that we'll be more clear on all of this. The seventh one might be Kairi, since she has a Keyblade But, you're right, we'll have to wait for translations or the NA release in order to get clarity on the 7 lights or other prominent characters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samantha Mccoy 0 Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) doesnt lea/axel get a keyblade? Edited April 7, 2012 by Samantha Mccoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axele 151 Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) My guess for the seven lights are : 1 King Mickey. He's the king of all things Disney, and this is a Disney game; or rather half of one. So they'll have to make their mascot one, at least. 2 Riku. He passed the exam, showing true leadership, a strong heart and maturity. 3 Ven. He'll be saved and rescued, & yea. 4 Aqua. Just like Ven, she'll be saved and like Riku she passed the Exam. 5 Kairi. I think that Riku is going to be her teacher, so she'll do well. 6 Lea. Riku will problery end up teaching him too. Or Yen Sid. Plus he's a poplaur character. 7 Sora. This I'm not sure about. He feels rather hurt at the moment and has been through some rough sh&*. Either this or Roxas or Xion. No Terra because he screwed up the Exam a million times worse than Sora did. Edited April 8, 2012 by axele Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrinityAce19 0 Posted April 9, 2012 I think the next game for the series is kingdom hearts reconnect.I mean think about ,it was the last thing shown in the secret movie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nic2134 54 Posted April 9, 2012 In the game, Mickey says that Sora, Riku, Mickey are 3 of the 7 lights as well as the 3 people whose destinies MX helped ruin (Aqua, Ven, and Terra). So, it's Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua,, Ven, Terra, and an unknown 7th. I do think that once we get a really good translation or after the game comes out that we'll be more clear on all of this. The 7th isnt really unknown its Kairi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites