KH3D True form of ansem and xemnas.

[Waller-pearson 60]

So is the true form of xemnas and ansem , master xehanort? terra? terranort? im soo confused. tell me ur guys opinions plz

[Wolfgang 735]

Xemnas + Ansem sod + both dead = MX

 

[Queen Tery 4,591]

Xemnas + Ansem sod + both dead = MX

 

 

 

lol i'd like to agree, but if it were that simple, it wouldn't be kingdom hearts.

[Waller-pearson 60]

Xemnas + Ansem sod + both dead = MX

 

 

 

but MX made a new vessel, meaning we should be seeing apprentice xehanort for a little.

[rainbowdash64 194]

Mansex+Ansem= ULTIMATE POWER OF DOOOOOOOOOOM

 

EDIT:

 

OHMYGOSH. I BET IT'S THE MYSTERIOUS FIGURE!!! (sorry for the caps lock)

Edited March 22, 2012 by rainbowdash64

[Zenithia 305]

tutti frutti. The true form of Ansem and Xemnas is Terranort (Apprentice Xehanort) Apprentice Xehanort is Master Xehanort taking over Terra's body plus amnesia.

[soriku911 11]

terra if you watch the extra cutscenes from kh2 fm it shows xemnas talking to aquas armor in the chamber of sleep and refering to it as his "old friend" then another cutscene shows organization members talking about how xemnas spent hours talking to his "old friend" and how they thought the reason he wanted to find the chamber of awakening so bad was to find his " other old friend" and that sounds more like terra than xehanort and a nobody is the body of the dead person and wouldn't the body used to make xemnas be terras.

[Rob 5,571]

Xemnas + Ansem sod + both dead = MX

 

 

 

Seems like you forgot what body MX was in.

[Spectrum of Life 188]

It's the Time traveling fellow, most likely. Or an Albino Porcupine.

 

I'm betting on the porcupine.

[rainbowdash64 194]

It's the Time traveling fellow, most likely. Or an Albino Porcupine.

 

I'm betting on the porcupine.

 

The truth has been spoken!

[keystrike 145]

It should be Terranort... if he was a normal case, but he's not so nobody really knows.

[Wolfgang 735]

Hmm MF is unique.. Time travel, and he is YMX.. HMM i have to do some thinking, for now i will say YMX has something to to do Terra/Xemnas.. Idk stop making me think.

[esumsoraroxas 48]

tutti frutti. The true form of Ansem and Xemnas is Terranort (Apprentice Xehanort) Apprentice Xehanort is Master Xehanort taking over Terra's body plus amnesia.

 

Can you please elaborate on this?

[Guest Lady Dreana]

Hmmmmmmmmm What About Isa could he be a possible vessel? It woulod definetily give Lea a good reason to fight him.

[Tom 437]

Well frankly, from all the different cases that are going on in KH, it really varies.

 

From the evidence that Nomura described about a part of Terra left behind in Riku, it's assumed that Terra's heart is inside Riku, along with Eraqus' since it cletched to Terra's basically. MX's heart, being in Riku's body with the other hearts, was kicked out when the Kingdom Hearts Encoder exploded.

 

So MX is mostly likely going to join with Terra's body and soul once Xemnas was destroyed, to form what would the return of Xehanort. At first it would seem that it would make Apprentice Xehanort. But because Terra's heart is not in his own body, a new appearance is most likely going to be to made. If you haven't know, the heart seems to help change the appearance of someone in a body. When it's in its original body, obviously it's going to be original form. When it is in another body with another heart, if it's dormant or does not try to take over, the other person looks the same. But if the heart tries to take over, then the appearance of the other person alters and begins to have similar characteristics of the original person. And if a heart enters a body without a heart, like a Nobody, then the heartless body will change its appearance to of the original person. Examples are:

 

Heart dormant - Sora + Kairi's/Ventus' Heart = Still the same Sora

Heart trying to take over - Terra + MX's Heart = Terranort, Terra with MX's Heart influencing his appearance (white hair, darker skin, golden eyes)

Hearts in a Nobody - Roxas + Ventus' Heart = Ventus, still the nobody of Sora, but has the appearance of Ventus

 

So if MX's Heart goes with Terra's body and soul, then it will most likely take the appearence of the old Master Xehanort. But there is a chance that it might be his younger version since he is in a younger body, but that is yet to be explained.

 

In general, it all comes down to anything. It can be either MX or the younger version.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Tom

[Dave 5,715]

Whatever they are, it probably involves an airship.

[Kirie 3,489]

MX is scary.

[Zenithia 305]

Can you please elaborate on this?

 

tutti frutti. I will gladly do this. In the events of BBS, MX decided to use Terra to help see his agenda through. In order for MX to see his agend through, he needed a new vessel so that he could live long enough to see it through, thus realizing that Terra fit the bill. By getting Terra to use/succumb into darknees, MX would be able to transfer his heart into Terra, since MX used darkness himself, and thus being able to live longer. After the body stealing process was done, he became the the same Xehanort that became the apprentice to Ansem the Wise, aka Terranort & Apprentice Xehanort. (Same person) Apprentice Xehanort lost his memory due to the fight with Terra's armor, which was able to move and fight due to Terra's memories.

 

Apprentice Xehanort studied under Ansem the Wise to research hearts, heart of all worlds, etc. While ignoring Ansem the Wise's orders to stop the research on the heart Apprentice Xehanort continued the research which resulted in him becoming Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas. This resulted by Apprentice Xehanort willingly giving himself into the darkness which in turn resulted in both Ansem Seeker of Darkness (Heartless) and Xemnas (Nobody).

 

To the best of my knowledge both Ansem SoD and Xemnas brought back MX, or at the very least some variation of him. My guess is Apprentice Xehanort, mostly since I believe that this form of Xehanort is needed to free Terra from MX hold on him in terms of controlling his body.

[esumsoraroxas 48]

 

 

tutti frutti. I will gladly do this. In the events of BBS, MX decided to use Terra to help see his agenda through. In order for MX to see his agend through, he needed a new vessel so that he could live long enough to see it through, thus realizing that Terra fit the bill. By getting Terra to use/succumb into darknees, MX would be able to transfer his heart into Terra, since MX used darkness himself, and thus being able to live longer. After the body stealing process was done, he became the the same Xehanort that became the apprentice to Ansem the Wise, aka Terranort & Apprentice Xehanort. (Same person) Apprentice Xehanort lost his memory due to the fight with Terra's armor, which was able to move and fight due to Terra's memories.

 

Apprentice Xehanort studied under Ansem the Wise to research hearts, heart of all worlds, etc. While ignoring Ansem the Wise's orders to stop the research on the heart Apprentice Xehanort continued the research which resulted in him becoming Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas. This resulted by Apprentice Xehanort willingly giving himself into the darkness which in turn resulted in both Ansem Seeker of Darkness (Heartless) and Xemnas (Nobody).

 

To the best of my knowledge both Ansem SoD and Xemnas brought back MX, or at the very least some variation of him. My guess is Apprentice Xehanort, mostly since I believe that this form of Xehanort is needed to free Terra from MX hold on him in terms of controlling his body.

 

Thanks This is very fascinating. So, if the Unknown (or young Xehanort) is defeated, Terra will be free? And would Master Xehanort be weakened?

[Zenithia 305]

Thanks This is very fascinating. So, if the Unknown (or young Xehanort) is defeated, Terra will be free? And would Master Xehanort be weakened?

 

tutti frutti. This is to assume that Master Xehanort is in fact in one body, and that Young Xehanort is that one body. With the KH3D trailer, it looks like that not only MX returned, but his other variations returned, along with the appearance of Young Xehanort. IF MX does need to be defeated in order to free Terra, it's virtually anyones guess as to which form of MX is needed to be defeated, if not all of them.

 

I don't really think that MX has been weakened in any particular way. It would seem like something major would have to take place, if not for Sora and co. to be ahead of MX in terms of what he does, to weaken MX. The only time that I have noticed some form of Xehnaort be weakened is at the end of a battle, regardless of what happened to them shortly afterwards. I would think that Master Xehanort would have to be cornered fairly well to be weakened in any major way, if not completely defeated.

[esumsoraroxas 48]

 

 

tutti frutti. This is to assume that Master Xehanort is in fact in one body, and that Young Xehanort is that one body. With the KH3D trailer, it looks like that not only MX returned, but his other variations returned, along with the appearance of Young Xehanort. IF MX does need to be defeated in order to free Terra, it's virtually anyones guess as to which form of MX is needed to be defeated, if not all of them.

 

I don't really think that MX has been weakened in any particular way. It would seem like something major would have to take place, if not for Sora and co. to be ahead of MX in terms of what he does, to weaken MX. The only time that I have noticed some form of Xehnaort be weakened is at the end of a battle, regardless of what happened to them shortly afterwards. I would think that Master Xehanort would have to be cornered fairly well to be weakened in any major way, if not completely defeated.

 

I agree MX himself would have to be defeated in order to stop his variations Is Sora connected to MX in some way other than the slaying of Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness?

[Zenithia 305]

I agree MX himself would have to be defeated in order to stop his variations Is Sora connected to MX in some way other than the slaying of Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness?

 

tutti frutti. Other than some variation of Xehanort being Sora's enemy, the only reason I can think of the two of them being connected is when Riku was possessed by Ansem SoD and then later Riku used Ansem SoD for his powers of darkness. That and the incidents Ven went through in BBS, since Ven's heart is inside of Sora.

[esumsoraroxas 48]

 

 

tutti frutti. Other than some variation of Xehanort being Sora's enemy, the only reason I can think of the two of them being connected is when Riku was possessed by Ansem SoD and then later Riku used Ansem SoD for his powers of darkness. That and the incidents Ven went through in BBS, since Ven's heart is inside of Sora.

 

That's an interesting connection Is there a possibility that the Unknown could be MX's next road that he "may choose to take"?

[Zenithia 305]

That's an interesting connection Is there a possibility that the Unknown could be MX's next road that he "may choose to take"?

 

tutti frutti. It is pretty much anyone's guess in that department. Though for the most part I don't doubt that MX has some kind of connection to the Unknown. He could really be the Young Xehanort that a number of people on this site have assumed the Unknown to be, or could be somebody else completely. That's a hard guess to make, since we can't really say what exactly MX needs to do in order to complete his agend, whether it would be the Keyblade War, Kingdom Hearts, X-Blade or something comepletely different. Ultimately, the Unknown could actually be a good guy, like with Terra/Lingering Sentiment, another version of Xehanort or be a completely different villain. My guess is that the Unknown is another "road" that MX may take, mostly since that the Xehanort Saga is said to end in KH3.

[TheDarkFollower 2]

Terranort. thats for sure.