KH3D Possible proof on Unknown's true identity(SPOILERS I'M SERIOUS)

[TheDarkFollower 2]

I actually think that Unknown/MF/YMX is Master Xehanorts nobody.

I know what you think : Its Xemnas

But MX released his heart twice.

Once as MX and once as Terranort.

Ansem @ Xemnas are shared nobodies.

Teranort must be their true form.

That explains why Xemnas was looking for ven and called Aqua his friend and why MF has a resemblance to Xemnas.

[khdude214 40]

I guess some of us will only be waiting about a week to find out amd some of us a little longer

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I actually think that Unknown/MF/YMX is Master Xehanorts nobody.

I know what you think : Its Xemnas

But MX released his heart twice.

Once as MX and once as Terranort.

Ansem @ Xemnas are shared nobodies.

Teranort must be their true form.

That explains why Xemnas was looking for ven and called Aqua his friend and why MF has a resemblance to Xemnas.

 

Maybe but it doesnt explain why hes young.If that was the case MXs nobody would be the old man again..Plus he didnt lose his heart he transfered it to Terras body.. and if you are saying its the old mans body it WOULDNT explain why MF looks like terra..But like i said i wont rule out that Mf could be a YMX but the Isa theory is a very strong possibility ..

Edited March 22, 2012 by axel_lea_lives_on

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I support the Isa-nort theory,why he looks younger then Isa could be easily explained away with the fact that they are in the dream realm which changes their appearance. Also there is the possibilty like Axel_lea said that he is harboring hearts other then his own as well. Master Xehanort above all else is a brilliant strategist I posted a thoery earlier about the data in Sora being a way to revive a being baised pieces of a being (memories/heart/soul) if Master Xehanort had knowledge of Heartless and Nobodies during the events of BBS (which I believe he did) then logic would dictate that AX experiment revolved around implating fragments of his being into humans then turning them into heartless. When the two halves are recombined the would that not incorporate Xehanort into the revived being.

Edited March 22, 2012 by devereauxr

[woolfman1994 19]

I saw this theory a while ago, and ya, it does make a lot of sense, except, not only in what was pointed out in the original post, but also what it would mean for the game's scenario. By this I mean, an effective parallel would be drawn between Sora and Riku and Lea and Isa, something I've been hoping would be flushed out in some future game.

 

For the sake of a goal Riku and Isa became lost in the darkness, and found themselves on Xehanorts side. Both had some level of a superiority complex (to me at least), but also incredible friendships. Isa and Lea get thrown out of the castle and as annoyed as Isa appears the two proceed to finish the day with ice cream. I could only imagine Isa putting out his hand to Lea like Riku, blinded by the darkness, to Sora offering the final solution to achieve their goal when the two would become nobodies.

 

Fastforward through the different route Isa took and it would just so happen that this would simply postpone the day Xehanort conquers Isa. Also if you didn't pick up on it, Saix appears to nearly hate Riku in days and kh2. I'd be willing to be they also faced eachother durring kh2 or days and saw their similarities in one another... but that another theory.

 

Its a good theory, but Isa and Lea didnt seem as close as Sora and Riku. Isa put Lea down Riku encouraged sora to try harder and push himself. as for the Saix/Riku hate situation I dont think they met. Riku was the unknown in days and the organization found out. Remember Saix ordered Xion and later Roxas to fight and eliminate him? Flash forward to KH2 Saix said "you... didnt Roxas take care of you?" meaning he thought Riku was deminished. I suppose he eventually knew who riku was as he told sora kairi was catching up with her friend from the dark. Axel_Lea said that they were probably caught by xehanort and experimented on. I think in the experiment is when they lost their hearts not just when Radiant Garden was over run by heartless.

[King Riku 2,063]

This makes a lot of sense, but the hairstyle is still a bit too different to really use that to compare. If anyone, he looks a lot like Terra. But either way, I still think this is the most possible theory.

[Kidror 18]

This is one of the most plausible theories I've seen so far. Not sure if it'll be true but it seems pretty solid.

[TheDarkFollower 2]

Maybe but it doesnt explain why hes young.If that was the case MXs nobody would be the old man again..Plus he didnt lose his heart he transfered it to Terras body.. and if you are saying its the old mans body it WOULDNT explain why MF looks like terra..But like i said i wont rule out that Mf could be a YMX but the Isa theory is a very strong possibility ..

 

You have a point but nobodies don't always look like their somebodies.EX: Kairy-Namine

Also, xehanort transfered his heart but lost his body.

Furthermore, the Isa theory may be solid but it has a major problem. If isa has been controlled since BBS then he wouldn't have turned into a nobody.

Finally, Isa has to be a grownup since Axel(Lea) is.

[woolfman1994 19]

You have a point but nobodies don't always look like their somebodies.EX: Kairy-Namine

Also, xehanort transfered his heart but lost his body.

Furthermore, the Isa theory may be solid but it has a major problem. If isa has been controlled since BBS then he wouldn't have turned into a nobody.

Finally, Isa has to be a grownup since Axel(Lea) is.

 

Naimine is an exception. She was born from Kairi's heart but it was Sora's body and soul which is why she doesnt have any of Kairi's memory. No one said Isa had been controlled from BBS. It was said the he and Lea were caught by AX and experimented on. So a fragment of MX's heart could been inside Saix and it may of been like a switch that AX if he had doubt that his plan as Xemmnas would fail that when Isa regained his heart MX's heart would be stronger and more easily controlled by than Terra's.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Naimine is an exception. She was born from Kairi's heart but it was Sora's body and soul which is why she doesnt have any of Kairi's memory. No one said Isa had been controlled from BBS. It was said the he and Lea were caught by AX and experimented on. So a fragment of MX's heart could been inside Saix and it may of been like a switch that AX if he had doubt that his plan as Xemmnas would fail that when Isa regained his heart MX's heart would be stronger and more easily controlled by than Terra's.

 

This ty...and @ TheDarkFollower if you read this entire thread all this stuff was covered.

[Vector 4]

nope. MF is suppose to be new character, not Isa in some weird posession. nice theory though

 

 

I'm fairly sure that nomura said that MF is going to be important to the plot, but it's not necessarily a new chracter. On topic though: way too many coincidences. Even more so since nomura pretty much said that MF may look like YMX, but its a completely different person.

 

 

Also, it looks like its

all over again. Edited March 24, 2012 by Vector

[TheDarkFollower 2]

Naimine is an exception. She was born from Kairi's heart but it was Sora's body and soul which is why she doesnt have any of Kairi's memory. No one said Isa had been controlled from BBS. It was said the he and Lea were caught by AX and experimented on. So a fragment of MX's heart could been inside Saix and it may of been like a switch that AX if he had doubt that his plan as Xemmnas would fail that when Isa regained his heart MX's heart would be stronger and more easily controlled by than Terra's.

 

Your answer doesn't explain why he is young.

The theory says that Isa = Unknown which is Misterious Figure from BBS.

THAT MEANS THAT ISA HAS TO BE CONTROLLED IN BBS & UNKNOWN HAS TO BE OLDER BY NOWFOR THIS THEORY TO MAKE SENCE!!!

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Your answer doesn't explain why he is young.

The theory says that Isa = Unknown which is Misterious Figure from BBS.

THAT MEANS THAT ISA HAS TO BE CONTROLLED IN BBS & UNKNOWN HAS TO BE OLDER BY NOWFOR THIS THEORY TO MAKE SENCE!!!

 

There can be two reasons why he is young..One hes in the dream world where they appear younger.Two, he could be harboring Vanitas who is shown projecting himself out of him in the trailer. Also pay attention to whats been written in this thread , Its been stated several times that the theory includes AX experimented on Isa and placed a piece of himself in Isas heart then he lost his heart.So this possession wouldnt take affect till AFTER Isa REVIVED...MF is said to also have time manipulation powers ( we dont know the extent however ) so this all still works .

[woolfman1994 19]

Your answer doesn't explain why he is young.

The theory says that Isa = Unknown which is Misterious Figure from BBS.

THAT MEANS THAT ISA HAS TO BE CONTROLLED IN BBS & UNKNOWN HAS TO BE OLDER BY NOWFOR THIS THEORY TO MAKE SENCE!!!

 

We dont know Isa and Lea were when they got in to the castle. They looked around 14/15 years in BBS so flashforward 10 years they are in their early/mid twenties. But it has been stated that possibly apart of Vanitas was put into Isa as well.

[TheDarkFollower 2]

There can be two reasons why he is young..One hes in the dream world where they appear younger.Two, he could be harboring Vanitas who is shown projecting himself out of him in the trailer. Also pay attention to whats been written in this thread , Its been stated several times that the theory includes AX experimented on Isa and placed a piece of himself in Isas heart then he lost his heart.So this possession wouldnt take affect till AFTER Isa REVIVED...MF is said to also have time manipulation powers ( we dont know the extent however ) so this all still works .

 

We dont know Isa and Lea were when they got in to the castle. They looked around 14/15 years in BBS so flashforward 10 years they are in their early/mid twenties. But it has been stated that possibly apart of Vanitas was put into Isa as well.

 

First, people in the realm of dream don't change. Only the clothes change. There is no proof that people change and if there is I want to see it. Also, Unknown appears at The World That Never Was which most likely wont be in the realm of dreams.

Second, for this theory to have sence Unknown has to be older or at the same age as Saix was in KH2.(Just check how lea looks like.He dosn't look like he did in BBS)

Third, Vanitas is just one of the people of darknees that turn up when Unknown shows up.

Last, I'm getting tired of this so stop quoting. The Isa theory may be right but I need more proof. I don't know if my theory is right but

by now thats what I believe. I may be wrong.

Edited March 24, 2012 by TheDarkFollower

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

First, people in the realm of dream don't change. Only the clothes change. There is no proof that people change and if there is I want to see it. Also, Unknown appears at The World That Never Was which most likely wont be in the realm of dreams.

Second, for this theory to have sence Unknown has to be older or at the same age as Saix was in KH2.(Just check how lea looks like.He dosn't look like he did in BBS)

Third, Vanitas is just one of the people of darknees that turn up when Unknown shows up.

Last, I'm getting tired of this so stop quoting. The Isa theory may be right but I need more proof. I don't know if my theory is right but

by now thats what I believe. I may be wrong.

 

The unknown has been spotted in many dream worlds .Go watch the trailer.Nomura says the reason why Sora and Riku appear younger is bc they are in the dream world .Therefore the unknown can have this applied to him as well.. He also says to Sora that he "has hearts other than your own TOO." ( while Vanitas stands there saying it in unison ) If you are getting tired of this stop answering.No ones forcing you to post or discuss.Im just answering your questions and so is he.

[Blue Rhapsody 13]

Huh.. Kudos, this might very well be the very truth Nomura has been trying to hide from us!

 

Just looking at the images, i am astounded by they resemblance.

 

Only 7 days and we will find out.

 

Well actually, aprox. 9/10 days...I doubt someone is able to finish the game in 24 hours, since it's gonna be as big as KHII.

[Truthbringer 210]

Well actually, aprox. 9/10 days...I doubt someone is able to finish the game in 24 hours, since it's gonna be as big as KHII.

 

But, considering how it usually happens, there will be someone from japan or elsewhere streaming the game on twitch, justin or something along those lines.

[woolfman1994 19]

The unknown has been spotted in many dream worlds .Go watch the trailer.Nomura says the reason why Sora and Riku appear younger is bc they are in the dream world .Therefore the unknown can have this applied to him as well.. He also says to Sora that he "has hearts other than your own TOO." ( while Vanitas stands there saying it in unison ) If you are getting tired of this stop answering.No ones forcing you to post or discuss.Im just answering your questions and so is he.

 

This. TY. Edited March 24, 2012 by woolfman1994

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

This. TY.

 

Np

[replika13 455]

nah. Even though this would be true, should Saixs or isas voice actor be acting his english voice then? I mean its rikus voice actor.

im not still gonna think he is isa though.

[barry2255 48]

Holy...! I this makes so much sense, I mean MF and isa both have the same hair style O_O

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

nah. Even though this would be true, should Saixs or isas voice actor be acting his english voice then? I mean its rikus voice actor.

im not still gonna think he is isa though.

 

Well considering that Nomura has NEVER called MF young master xehanort this logic doesnt really apply.The same voice actor voiced the YMX in BBS which could just as easily appear here as well.Furthermore all the norts dont even share the same VA's.Finally we dont know who MFs actual VA is yet. You cant say its YMXs VA since MF has NEVER been confirmed as YMX...You dont have to believe its Isa but at least realize these points .

[Izzo 74]

face it, its true. they did not do they following things for nothing

 

a)introduce the friendship between axel and isa (TWICE)

b)give saix yellow eyes and a mysterious scar (make my words we will find out what this is

c)did not give saix such a high command next to xemnas

 

and for all those who said "it will be a new character", big deal he has lied before. and "isanort" would be a new character in theory

[esumsoraroxas 48]

 

 

The unknown has been spotted in many dream worlds .Go watch the trailer.Nomura says the reason why Sora and Riku appear younger is bc they are in the dream world .Therefore the unknown can have this applied to him as well.. He also says to Sora that he "has hearts other than your own TOO." ( while Vanitas stands there saying it in unison ) If you are getting tired of this stop answering.No ones forcing you to post or discuss.Im just answering your questions and so is he.

 

If the Unknown probably became younger because he roams the Dream World, who could he be other regions (Ex: The real world)? Any ideas?