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gonna go on a full scale rant here

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you know what really pisses me off, life, and when i say life i don't mean what happens in life and how people are getting screwed over and how difficult it is, i mean literally the time from when you're born to when you die

 

i was watching a video on consciousness earlier and i just began to think about how small i am in the world and that when i die the chances are it will go basically unnoticed. Because i mean life is a huge thing, a single life should seem basically impossible. I'm gonna come straight out and say it, i'm atheist, and i believe in evolution and all that but it's just like even the simplest bacteria shouldn't exist, time shouldn't exist, basically nothing should exist, the chances of anything ever happening even the universe being created seems to me like zero.

 

Anyway back to where i was, when i die, most likely nothing will change, the only people it will really effect long term is my family. Because i mean, say i die tomorrow, after a week my friends will still be distraught, then after a month they will only think of me every now and then, after a year I'm hardly ever in their minds anymore and god knows how often they'll think about me in a few years. They have other friends, other people around them who can fill that hole where I was, but with my family there will always be my room upstairs, they're probably the only people who won't forget me. And this actually really pisses me off, an impossibility disappears and almost no-one cares. I mean even if you think about famous people, when was the last time you thought about Micheal Jackson or Whitney Houston, and hell Whitney hasn't even been gone that long.

 

And then that got me to thinking, all lives are cursed, humans animals, everything. no matter how great or simple you are in life, in death we are all the same, in a box 10ft under, the flesh rotting, and even the mind, something so amazing will just degrade into dirt. Even me and even you. The greatest thing you could hope to do in death is to donate your body to science and prolong the life of the living. And that's all you can do, you will die, there's no avoiding it, surviving diseases and coming out against innumerable are almost pointless, all you're doing is prolonging your life, and to be honest, i think the idea of it is stupid, i want to die when i am still fairly young and able to do what i want, i hope i never have to live to live in an old peoples home and i certainly don't want to be a burden on my children.

 

Then i started to think that bringing a child in to the world can actually be seen as quite a cruel thing to do, most people will spend most of their life needing something, whether these are just small annoyances or huge life saving things. If you've been on a long trip or something, you will be spending more time being bored and tired on the trip than you will being glad that you're home. If you're hungry then you will probably end up spending more time and effort looking for food than you get to spend eating it and feeling full.To have children is to bring them into the world we already know too well, they will feel similar pains to you and when they are old, they will just see all the people around them such as their friends die.

 

And it's things like this that are the reason that I am not religious, if there was a god then why would they make it so that we have needs, a parent would always want their child to be happy so why would god not be the same. And even if he decided to still give us needs then why would he give us emotion, you get attached to your friends and family and in the end it will either be that you end up dying before them, causing their sadness or you will be walking around with their sadness when they die. Looking at it like this just makes god seem like a kid with a magnifying glass, watching them burn and letting them have a painful death

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well, i'm not religious, either. but, when you say that if god was the same as a parent why would he give us needs and let us "suffer." well, look at it from a parent's perspective. what is something that makes a parent proud of their child. when their child succeeds, without the parent's help. i would imagine that if god were real, then he/she/it would feel the same. i don't care what anybody says; life is LONG. Too long, in fact, to sit there hating it. trust me life isn't as hard as people make it out to be. for instance, america. no we aren't in the best of times, but the american public(notice i said public and not government) in general are spoiled, lazy, and weak people. the second the going gets a little tough, they start blaming the government and god(who we don't even know if he/she/it exists), or whoever they can to make themselves feel like they're trying as hard as they can, when they aren't. other countries have it much worse than we do, but we complain because we've experienced easier times than what we are facing right, now. i really hope that you can find more meaning in life than just insignificance and death. :/

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Just something to think about but do you want people to be unhappy all the time. I'm not atheist, probably borderline, but I get that kind of mood too where i think even if I vanish, nothing would really change, making me depressed. Then i console myself by telling myself that it's probably a good thing because it wouldn't do for everyone to be miserable all the time.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:18 PM, 'Ertyx' said:

well, i'm not religious, either. but, when you say that if god was the same as a parent why would he give us needs and let us "suffer." well, look at it from a parent's perspective. what is something that makes a parent proud of their child. when their child succeeds, without the parent's help. i would imagine that if god were real, then he/she/it would feel the same. i don't care what anybody says; life is LONG. Too long, in fact, to sit there hating it. trust me life isn't as hard as people make it out to be. for instance, america. no we aren't in the best of times, but the american public(notice i said public and not government) in general are spoiled, lazy, and weak people. the second the going gets a little tough, they start blaming the government and god(who we don't even know if he/she/it exists), or whoever they can to make themselves feel like they're trying as hard as they can, when they aren't. other countries have it much worse than we do, but we complain because we've experienced easier times than what we are facing right, now. i really hope that you can find more meaning in life than just insignificance and death. :/

 

 

So you are going to generalize the entire american public? I know a lot of people who work their ass off everyday of their lives to stay ahead and expect nothing from others so they can make themselves and their families a better life .

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:24 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said:

So you are going to generalize the entire american public? I know a lot of people who work their ass off everyday of their lives to stay ahead and expect nothing from others so they can make themselves and their families a better life .

 

that's why i said "in general." i did not say the entire american public. i work in retail where i see hundreds of people walk into my store and buy their food with EBT(food stamps) and then buy pack, after pack of cigarettes with their own money. i have seen people complain that they don't have the money to buy their kids a birthday present or throw their kids a birthday party, but they'll indulge their cigarette addiction. then, i hear them complain about the government and the prices on different products on the market, yet they continue to buy useless junk that they don't need. i will not say that every single person in america is like that. that would be stupid of me to talk about the millions of people that i haven't met. but, based on what i see, hear and read every single day, a lot of people have come to the same dumb conclusion about life in america.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:31 PM, 'Ertyx' said:

that's why i said "in general." i did not say the entire american public. i work in retail where i see hundreds of people walk into my store and buy their food with EBT(food stamps) and then buy pack, after pack of cigarettes with their own money. i have seen people complain that they don't have the money to buy their kids a birthday present or throw their kids a birthday party, but they'll indulge their cigarette addiction. then, i hear them complain about the government and the prices on different products on the market, yet they continue to buy useless junk that they don't need. i will not say that every single person in america is like that. that would be stupid of me to talk about the millions of people that i haven't met. but, based on what i see, hear and read every single day, a lot of people have come to the same dumb conclusion about life in america.

 

i can understand what you are saying .I just wish people wouldnt generalize as a whole bc i think this behavior is an occurance in human nature and not neccesarily where you live.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:35 PM, 'axel_lea_lives_on' said:

i can understand what you are saying .I just wish people wouldnt generalize as a whole bc i think this behavior is an occurance in human nature and not neccesarily where you live.

 

i agree with you, it doesn't necessarily have to do with where you live. i was just using the country i live in as an example. its easier for me to speak from personal experience. although, i do think that many americans do take, the good things they have in life for granted, just because the going got a little tougher.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:18 PM, 'Ertyx' said:

well, i'm not religious, either. but, when you say that if god was the same as a parent why would he give us needs and let us "suffer." well, look at it from a parent's perspective. what is something that makes a parent proud of their child. when their child succeeds, without the parent's help. i would imagine that if god were real, then he/she/it would feel the same. i don't care what anybody says; life is LONG. Too long, in fact, to sit there hating it. trust me life isn't as hard as people make it out to be. for instance, america. no we aren't in the best of times, but the american public(notice i said public and not government) in general are spoiled, lazy, and weak people. the second the going gets a little tough, they start blaming the government and god(who we don't even know if he/she/it exists), or whoever they can to make themselves feel like they're trying as hard as they can, when they aren't. other countries have it much worse than we do, but we complain because we've experienced easier times than what we are facing right, now. i really hope that you can find more meaning in life than just insignificance and death. :/

 

that's what i'm saying. There is more to life that just death and depression, it's just that that stuff is all in vain, you'll both end up dead. I love life it's just that if there is only a limited time with it then i don't see the point in all the bad stuff

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  On 3/17/2012 at 9:48 PM, 'mfampait' said:

that's what i'm saying. There is more to life that just death and depression, it's just that that stuff is all in vain, you'll both end up dead. I love life it's just that if there is only a limited time with it then i don't see the point in all the bad stuff

 

i know, i feel that way sometimes, too. but, i figure why not enjoy myself now. even if its in vain and might not matter after death, i'd rather at least be happy, now.

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So I'm going to say it yeah life can be bad and yeah it boring and paniful but life has it's good points too. Also I belive in God so that even when I die I'll go to heaven.

 

  On 3/17/2012 at 9:51 PM, 'Ertyx' said:

i know, i feel that way sometimes, too. but, i figure why not enjoy myself now. even if its in vain and might not matter after death, i'd rather at least be happy, now.

 

Well why even try if you think it's in "vain"?

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:14 PM, 'Sora's Baby' said:

So I'm going to say it yeah life can be bad and yeah it boring and paniful but life has it's good points too. Also I belive in God so that even when I die I'll go to heaven.

 

Well why even try if you think it's in "vain"?

 

well, i don't think that it is in vain. what i should have typed was "even if it were in vain..." but, if it were in vain after i died, why should that matter now? trying to decide the point behind life and death, now, in essence is pointless. i'm not going to be able to come up with the "right" answer right now anyway, so i figure why waste the precious time i have right now.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:23 PM, 'Ertyx' said:

well, i don't think that it is in vain. what i should have typed was "even if it were in vain..." but, if it were in vain after i died, why should that matter now? trying to decide the point behind life and death, now, in essence is pointless. i'm not going to be able to come up with the "right" answer right now anyway, so i figure why waste the precious time i have right now.

 

Ah, now that's much better. For a second I was worried. Thank goodness your not some scary kid that's hates his/her own life.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:27 PM, 'Sora's Baby' said:

Ah, now that's much better. For a second I was worried. Thank goodness your not some scary kid that's hates his/her own life.

 

lol no. don't get me wrong there have been times where i've been pretty depressed. im pretty sure everybody, if not most people go through those times. but, i try my best to stay happy and remember the good things in my life.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:27 PM, 'Sora's Baby' said:

Ah, now that's much better. For a second I was worried. Thank goodness your not some scary kid that's hates his/her own life.

 

by the way i'm not actually like that, i'm just having one of those days where i just think, "one day i'll die and there's nothing i can do about it"

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:32 PM, 'mfampait' said:

by the way i'm not actually like that, i'm just having one of those days where i just think, "one day i'll die and there's nothing i can do about it"

 

yeah, it happens. it may sound a bit pessimistic of me to say this, but just remember that if there's nothing you can do about it, then you've already done everything you can. don't worry about and just live in the here and now.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:32 PM, 'mfampait' said:

by the way i'm not actually like that, i'm just having one of those days where i just think, "one day i'll die and there's nothing i can do about it"

 

One of those days? Wft! Are you insane? Yeah you'll die but that only makes life better.

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  On 3/17/2012 at 10:32 PM, 'mfampait' said:

by the way i'm not actually like that, i'm just having one of those days where i just think, "one day i'll die and there's nothing i can do about it"

 

 

Nothing you can do everyone dies but you have time to enjoy life and spend it with the people you care about. Even if you may hate life think about the people who love you and how they feel. E.g if your parents see you all sad and gloomy it hurts them and thats why parents try and cheer you up.

Ok. First Hitler done bad shit years on people still make shit about him. If your big you do be remembered e.g. people like Martin Luther King others to. Secondly if we did not have emotions we are droids and we would not have the joy of experiencing first love and happiness. Even though life is a bitch loved ones die and you work our butt of to live the time to have with them lasts forever. If someone died once in a while you think of them keeping them alive. For some idols and god is a replacement who do not have family and have something else to help them carry on. Thirdly having kids is good (once you old enough and can look after them) you give them a chance to live and experience shit you have. You guide them and to be honest kids help you wanting the best. We want money and fame so our family and friends can be looked after even when we die. We look after our kids and when were old and cannot look after ourself our kids do. Friends go but family stay forever.

 

 

 

Hell Look at kingdom hearts for how Sora is the key of everyone :P.

 

 

Stop seeing the shit side to life and live you may die tomorrow but in till enjoy life and do not be a arse to people :P

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