KH3D Can someone please explain?

[Waller-pearson 60]

Since the young version of master xehanort can time travel, has he been following sora all along throughout the games? and is he the one in kingdom hearts 1 that is wearing brown inside the destiny island cave talking to sora? thanks

[Nikolasvanitas 358]

i think the one with the brown coat in destiny islands was Ansem the seeker of darkness,but about Xehanort time travelling and following sora and riku in kh1-kh2 i am not sure http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

[Matthew 74]

The way I see it,assume nothing,we don't know enough about YMX to assume he is a time travler! NEVER assume something about a critical character in a game you don't know much about,you might be wrong.And yeah,the brown coated guy is normal Ansem,Seeker of Darkness. But yeah,another problem is there is NO evidence to claim that he is a time travler and/or that he has watched over Sora over the course of all of the other games! Life-lesson,don't make a claim unless you have evidence to support it!

[Keyblade Master Xine 196]

NEVER assume something about a critical character in a game you don't know much about, you might be wrong.

 

Especially in a Kingdom Hearts game, huh?

[Keyblade Master Xoncron 499]

The guy in the brown cloak was definitely Ansem SoD, but as for the rest I'm clueless!

[Emrys 3,192]

he chose not to show himself so soon. its a part of the plan

[JTD95 1,107]

There's never been confirmed that the Unknown/Young Master Xehanort can time travel, and I highly doubt that he's been following them.

 

The brown cloaked man in the cave on Destiny Islands was Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, in his original form as Heartless.

[wayfinder823 477]

Okay--was the coat really brown? I swear it was black!

[Exodaze 491]

Since the young version of master xehanort can time travel, has he been following sora all along throughout the games? and is he the one in kingdom hearts 1 that is wearing brown inside the destiny island cave talking to sora? thanks

 

Don't take that young version of master xehanort can time travel travel as a fact. Actually, it is just a speculation since he met TVA in KHBBS but that doesn't really mean he can time travel of some sort. Yes he has somewhat connection with time. I am sure there is an explanation about this. We'll know that in 22 days.

[SHADOWPAIN 66]

I doubt he's been following them around. Like " yea sora, I see you but you don't see mee. One day Ima get you sunny boy!" *crazy eyes*

[Col.Random 3,683]

the guy in the brown cloak couldn't have been YMX cause i don't think TN had even thought of that back then

[Matthew 74]

Especially in a Kingdom Hearts game, huh?

 

Yeah! Definitly!

There's never been confirmed that the Unknown/Young Master Xehanort can time travel, and I highly doubt that he's been following them.

 

The brown cloaked man in the cave on Destiny Islands was Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, in his original form as Heartless.

 

what do you MEAN original form? That WAS how he always was,always a heartless,in the SAME form,since Xehenort started those experiments and got turned into Xemnas ,along with Ansem,Seeker of Darkness!

[Waller-pearson 60]

The way I see it,assume nothing,we don't know enough about YMX to assume he is a time travler! NEVER assume something about a critical character in a game you don't know much about,you might be wrong.And yeah,the brown coated guy is normal Ansem,Seeker of Darkness. But yeah,another problem is there is NO evidence to claim that he is a time travler and/or that he has watched over Sora over the course of all of the other games! Life-lesson,don't make a claim unless you have evidence to support it!

 

shut the hell up. IT CLEARLY SAYS HE CAN VACATION THROUGH TIME PARTICALS IN THE KH BBS GUIDE BOOK AND NOMURA SAID YMX IS THE MYSTERIOUS FIGURE. so dont come at me like that.

[Matthew 74]

shut the hell up. IT CLEARLY SAYS HE CAN VACATION THROUGH TIME PARTICALS IN THE KH BBS GUIDE BOOK AND NOMURA SAID YMX IS THE MYSTERIOUS FIGURE. so dont come at me like that.

 

... what the heck are you talking about O-o The myserious figure from BBS & KH 1 are two different characters! I'm pretty sure people will agree with me that the MF is YMX,and that the brown-coated dude in KH 1 is Ansem,Seeker of Darkness! As for that guide book,that is solely based upon your word!

Anyways,I'm pretty sure people will agree on both fronts!

[esumsoraroxas 48]

If the Unknown is Young Master Xehanort, then is Master Xehanort of the present day able to time travel?

[JTD95 1,107]

what do you MEAN original form? That WAS how he always was,always a heartless,in the SAME form,since Xehenort started those experiments and got turned into Xemnas ,along with Ansem,Seeker of Darkness!

 

Ansem's original form was just a brown cloak; whether there was something underneath it is unknown. Later on in the game Ansem steals Riku's body and reshapes it into something more suitable for himself. The only reason Ansem looked like a human was because he was using Riku's body.

 

If human form Ansem used Riku's body to look like he did, then how are the two able to co-exist in later games?

Ansem never really appears inside Castle Oblivion. Parts of him is still lingering within Riku trying to make him fall into darkness so that he can use his body again. Ansem is inside Riku the whole game, Riku is just hallucinating that he sees Ansem.

[Matthew 74]

Ansem's original form was just a brown cloak; whether there was something underneath it is unknown. Later on in the game Ansem steals Riku's body and reshapes it into something more suitable for himself. The only reason Ansem looked like a human was because he was using Riku's body.

 

If human form Ansem used Riku's body to look like he did, then how are the two able to co-exist in later games?

Ansem never really appears inside Castle Oblivion. Parts of him is still lingering within Riku trying to make him fall into darkness so that he can use his body again. Ansem is inside Riku the whole game, Riku is just hallucinating that he sees Ansem.

 

I know all that.I was going to say show me the evidence at the begging with the shapless Ansem,Seek of Darkness,but it seems to make a lot of sense.But if he is hallucinating,it REALLY isn't Ansem.There isn't any evidence to say then that it was a fake Ansem,SoD or at least the part of Ansem,SoD that was still in Riku

[JTD95 1,107]

I know all that.I was going to say show me the evidence at the begging with the shapless Ansem,Seek of Darkness,but it seems to make a lot of sense.But if he is hallucinating,it REALLY isn't Ansem.There isn't any evidence to say then that it was a fake Ansem,SoD or at least the part of Ansem,SoD that was still in Riku

 

In KH2 when Riku has taken on the appearance of Ansem, Riku says that Ansem invaded his heart and he's still there. Ansem was completly destroyed during the explosion at The World That Never Was, if I've understood things correctly.

[khdude214 40]

Well current theory is ansem SOD or MF is a stalker so im gunna take a stab in the dark.......identity crisis.....jk

[Matthew 74]

In KH2 when Riku has taken on the appearance of Ansem, Riku says that Ansem invaded his heart and he's still there. Ansem was completly destroyed during the explosion at The World That Never Was, if I've understood things correctly.

 

Um no a part of him was still in Riku's heart.As I said,there isn't any evidence that the one in CoM was fake and that part of Ansem,SoD was fake!

[JTD95 1,107]

Um no a part of him was still in Riku's heart.As I said,there isn't any evidence that the one in CoM was fake and that part of Ansem,SoD was fake!

 

I'm not saying that the Ansem in Com was fake. I'm not quite sure how to word myself here so I'm going to do it in a very simple manner:

Riku is inside Castle Oblivion.

Ansem is inside Riku's heart trying to make him fall into darkness.

Riku talks to and fight against Ansem inside his heart but, Riku sees all of this as if it all were happening outside his own body.

[Matthew 74]

I'm not saying that the Ansem in Com was fake. I'm not quite sure how to word myself here so I'm going to do it in a very simple manner:

Riku is inside Castle Oblivion.

Ansem is inside Riku's heart trying to make him fall into darkness.

Riku talks to and fight against Ansem inside his heart but, Riku sees all of this as if it all were happening outside his own body.

 

Yeah... this is how it is,either that PART of Ansem,SoD was fake,or Riku wa hallicinating.I mean,hallucinating is seeing something that is fake or isn't really there.But I think your trying to analyze Riku's CoM events too litterally lol.I think that Ansem really did manifest himself outside of Riku's heart.I mean,thats where it CAME from.I get what your trying to say,it all happened inside of his heart but Riku was seeing as if it was happenign outside.I've said this once,ill say it again,there isn't any reason to believe or evidence to claim that Riku was just,"hallucinating" or projecting,which maybe more accurate,it all happening outside of his heart.