WTF IGN?!

[Godot 513]

How about we take a school shooting that just recently happened in my area? Three kids died, and the kid that shot them believed they deserved to. IN HIS OPINION they deserved to die. You really want to say "It's just an opinion, get over it?" No you don't, because those kids didn't deserve to die. Because what he did was wrong. Perhaps you are saying this is a bit too extreme to even be comparable? Not the point. Just because something is an opinion, doesn't mean that we have to accept it or "get over it". At its very foundation, saying "its just an opinion, get over it" is flawed. N

 

This is my last post in this thread I swear.

 

Apples and oranges, bro. HARMLESS opinions and expressing your opinions in a HARMLESS way (i.e. the article) = okay. Expressing your opinion in a HARMFUL way (i.e. shooting someone) = not okay. Yes, they are too extreme to be comparable. Saying "It's just an opinion, get over it" is not flawed from the get-go; it's the context that determines how appropriate it is.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

I don't agree with his overall opinion, but most of the stuff he said is true, I think. It's pretty hard explaining this game's story to anyone, because it's so firetrucking butchered.

[DChiuch 5,773]

Whether or not they have a true opinion, posting http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150602623366633&set=a.119104781632.95409.59685491632&type=1 on your public page is just so crude and shoddy.

[Rob 5,571]

You know shit is serious when DC is posting in threads.

[axel91 161]

Whether or not they have a true opinion, posting http://www.facebook....85491632&type=1 on your public page is just so crude and shoddy.

 

ok, now I'm really angry :angry:

[Koko 3,944]

 

How about we take a school shooting that just recently happened in my area? Three kids died, and the kid that shot them believed they deserved to. IN HIS OPINION they deserved to die. You really want to say "It's just an opinion, get over it?" No you don't, because those kids didn't deserve to die. Because what he did was wrong. Perhaps you are saying this is a bit too extreme to even be comparable? Not the point. Just because something is an opinion, doesn't mean that we have to accept it or "get over it". At its very foundation, saying "its just an opinion, get over it" is flawed. N

 

 

That's like the worst comparison ever and has nothing to do with anything and it is bad and you should feel bad.

School shooting =/= harmless article over a GAME

[r0ckstarferlife 34]

IGN just hate kingdom hearts. i made a post a while ago about how they gave kingdom hearts 2 a really low rating .. this is just to get people mad and read their article

[TheKingdomkid 1,194]

Whether or not they have a true opinion, posting http://www.facebook....85491632&type=1 on your public page is just so crude and shoddy.

 

You know shit is serious when DC is posting in threads.

 

is it apropriate to say that the shit has hit the fan?

[baylaust 2,531]

i made a post a while ago about how they gave kingdom hearts 2 a really low rating...

I assume, of course, that you're talking about the "really low rating" of 7.6?

 

Which, of course, on IGN's scale means "Good"?

[r0ckstarferlife 34]

 

 

I assume, of course, that you're talking about the "really low rating" of 7.6?

 

Which, of course, on IGN's scale means "Good"?

 

Of course I am

[legendkiller222 22]

I just read the article and understand the points the article is trying to make, but I have a problem with the fact of a "complex" story being a bad thing. The fact is that we have too many boring and straight forward storylines. Look at most shooters these days, they are very straight forward or we have other games that have twists, but they are too easy to see. Metal Gear Solid is a great example of a story that is so complicated it really is difficult to comprehend, but that difficult to comprehend story makes you actually care about what goes on in the games. The issue of disney worlds is understandable, but at the same time the game has to become more than its appeal from Disney which it has. I think as the series goes further we will get different worlds, but this saga has yet to end so it doesn't make sense to add 10 new worlds that will never appear again. The side game issue is awesome because guess what it gives Nomura a chance to experiment with gameplays and takes less time to develop. The side games add further background to the story of KH and I think they are welcome. This multi console crap is just another cry from people without PS consoles or Nintendo handhelds to complain about. It has no sound logic because FFXiii could have been so much more than what it was if it was exclusive to PS3 as it was originally intended to be. Overall, this article is just trying to make points that aren't really that valid.

[Lexa Infinite 141]

Yeah, some do have chessy plots, I agree. But I've found that cheesy plots can be fun sometimes. Not always, but sometimes.

 

 

You bring up an excellent point. Almost anything could be excused by "its just an opinion, get over it".

"Kingdom Hearts sucks, but here's why it doesn't have too." - Opinion

"[in reply to above] You're an idiot." - Opinion

"All religions are wrong and anyone who belongs to one is stupid." - Opinion

 

How about we take a school shooting that just recently happened in my area? Three kids died, and the kid that shot them believed they deserved to. IN HIS OPINION they deserved to die. You really want to say "It's just an opinion, get over it?" No you don't, because those kids didn't deserve to die. Because what he did was wrong. Perhaps you are saying this is a bit too extreme to even be comparable? Not the point. Just because something is an opinion, doesn't mean that we have to accept it or "get over it". At its very foundation, saying "its just an opinion, get over it" is flawed. N

 

Now, I am not one of the people who is overreacting to this (as you can see from my first post in this thread), as the guy did make some good points. Maybe I am overreacting a bit in my argument that the excuse "its just an opinion, get over it" is crap. You are telling people to get over someone's opinion, but their overreaction is their opinion. Don't like that? Its just an opinion, get over it. Don't like what I am saying? Its just an opinion, get over it. Really, we shouldn't care about anything, and sites like this one (at least the forum part) wouldn't exist, because everything is an opinion and we should just get over it.

 

Thanks for backing me up! http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.png

[Leaxel 178]

You guys are still talking about this?

[Shana09 5,769]

I forgot to mention this but when he said "Go into firetrucking Kingdom hearts already"

THEY ALREADY DID! IN THE FIRST GAME THEY DID! My god I dont think he even played the games or even watched the walkthroughs. And if he did, he basically did not pay attention.

 

Kingdom Hearts 1: The ending =_=

Kingdom Hearts RE: CHAIN OF MEMORIES: They were either in it, or at it during Riku's gameplay and final boss fight.

Kingdom Hearts 2: The ending they did also!

 

Anyways IGN only loves Call of Duty and Pokemon because they hate every other game. Ign are not rating games goodly now...trust me look at Call of Duty Black Ops. It got a 9.5 when everyone else said it was not great at the the campaign.

 

Also there was one guy who said Skyward Sword (Zelda) was bad because all of its stories are almost the same and the gameplay is too. But when it was to Call of Duty Black ops, the guy loved it because IT HAD ITS ORIGINALITY (AKA THE SAME STORY) AND THE GAMEPLAY IS ORIGINAL TO THE FIRST GAME.

[keystrike 145]

If you understand how industries work this article is easily believable (as in, before our reaction might have been: I don't believe how anyone could have wrote this.). Famitsu worships Final Fantasy just as IGN worships Halo/CoD. IGN knows what hooks people and what doesn't. That article, the person writing that article, what genre of the article was, IGN knows that nobody gives a cr@p about honestly going over the meaningful pros and cons in an article like this. We can all pick out all the fallacies of their argument, some of us can admit to some of these problems, and fewer still can recognize that its pointless arguing with a fool (especially amongst the hundred of other posts).

 

(this totally ruins the tone but, whooh 777 lucky post!)

[hatok 6,413]

And the good lord said that all comments shall be in bold

 

WHO WROTE THAT TRASH!!!!! NEVER INSULT A GREAT GAME LIKE KH JUST BECAUSE YOUR NOT SMART ENOUGH To UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE STORY!!!......phew ok done venting

 

Get over yourself. Understanding KH doesn't make you intelligent.

Ooh, a reaction image, what a stellar start to a no doubt excellent post

 

It would be nice if he got a few things straight. As was pointed out earlier, we've been to the Pride LANDS Heaven forbid he accidentally type a name as another, similar name , and the entire final beattle sequence took place inside Kingdom HeartsIt took place in the World That Never Was, alive version. There's no context, we know nothing of Kingdom Hearts. Basically he's saying we need to actual delve into the object of this games title. Hell, the final battle in KH1 was just outside the door!Because that means SO much. Besides, in that case, the fact that this door leads to the Realm of darkness, and The World that Never Was is behind door number 2 would imply that the final battle wasn't in fact inside Kingdom Hearts And the Secret Episode in BbSFM took place in the Realm of Darkness... right behind the door!!!!But not to the actual place. It's been how many games, and nobody even really knows what a Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be

 

It's pretty clear that he just swooped in, chose some things that he wanted to pick at. and loaded his gun. Sure, he pointed out some of the good features (the combat system, etc), but that's really only because otherwis eth earticle would have gone beyond a flame; it would've been a bonfire!

 

Sorry, Jack DeVries, but I'm afraid I need to put an arrow in your knee. An ending with a Skyrim joke, quality writing all around

 

No need to apologize. I am just getting a bit annoyed that people are using "its just an opinion, get over it" as a way to say that this is okay.

 

What makes this article 'not okay'?

Hello, people, expressing my opinion for this article, and I might as well get this point out there before I get started: To the people who are saying "Oh, it's his opinion, don't freak out." : Just because somebody else has an opinion does NOT mean I can't express MY opinion You're not excersizing your freedom of speech, you're verbally attacking a human being you have never met. Any objections? (don't you dare send me a Ace Attorney objection being a smartass) Thought not. Well, here's my actual argument against this guy:

 

The storyline in Kingdom Hearts is not bad, when you compare it to so many other games, in which there is little to no storyline, for example Black Ops or Halo. Yes, I said it. Ooh, what a rebel, a person who implies an FPS has a more shallow story than a JRPG. I also should note that Black Ops has a convoluted story that rivals KH Halo, compared to Kingdom Hearts,storyline-wise, sucks,Ah, an backed statements, those are always great Halo's storyline is often repetitive and predictableKingdom Hearts on the other hand is repetetive, predictable. Kingdom Hearts (minus certain filler games) is always bringing in something new Such as? I'm not criticizing your opinion here, you should just back up your words, you know?. As I recall, IGN has always given good ratings to Halo (correct me if I'm wrong, people)Almost as if there is more to a games score than story What the writer of this article must realize is this IS a Disney+Square Enix game. The storyline is going to contain characteristics from each. What are the implications of this?

 

Also, another point to be made is that this is a whole new type of game: Two different companies coming together to make a game Truly this is unheard of. Both companies are still working out the kinks in making the games (i.e.: what they can and can't do). This is going to cause some problems. Despite all this, the games have widely succeeded. Why, you ask? Because it draws from the obsessive Final Fantasy fans, and the numerous Disney fans? It's because people actually like the way game plays out and the storyline Or at least, the first one; so much actually, this game is a BESTSELLER Sonic 06 is a bestseller and Kingdom Hearts I and II's endings managed to make it up to the laters Guiness Book of World Records: Gamer's Editiob. Which also included the endings of Call of Duty and Halo. Apparently, gamers like this game, surprisingly And? This guy never said people disliked the games. Not to mention that it made #19 in the list of Best Games of All Time in the Guiness Book of World Records: Gamer's Edition 2010. Wow, that's right after Square's Final Fantasy, their biggest series. I wonder why. Me too

 

This is a direct response to this particularly irritating comment: "It's like Twilight for boys." Do I need to explain to you that this fanbase is dominated by fanGIRLS? The fangirls are infamous across several sites, but I digress. How is Kingdom Hearts in ANY way like Twilight?It's shoddily written and feature unhealthy relationships based on irrational feelings to attachment to people you've only just met? I happen to be a fan to both and have arduously read/played both series. Answer this question, with a reasonable response, and I'll take this back. Also, keep in mind that being like something could mean it has a similar effect on people, or has been similarly received.

 

I was also appalled by the comment about KHII: "Kingdom Hearts II, while a messy, unnecessarily complex game, managed to wrap up a lot of the loose ends by way of killing all the characters who were lame." Que? What is this? Obviously, the writer watched the walkthroughs rather than play. Why would you be steered into believing that? He is a proffesional reviewer. There's nothing that implies this, don't jump to conclusions. KHII was the first game I played out of the series and I got the plot just fine, along with several of my friends who also got the plot. The characters in this game were awesome In your opinion. That's not a statement you can make, and you certainly can't apply your own opinion to another's. Opinions are complicated aren't they?. Well-explained enough to arouse interest, but with a lot of mystery left behind to leave the gamer wondering what their story is.

 

However, I do agree with the writer on several points: Jungle Book would have been kickass, I still believe they're holding out Pixar for KHIII, stop with the multi-consoles already, Robin Hood=Epic. Kingdom Hearts could do with some improvement, but it's only small when you put it against other massively failing games out there: remember, this whole game series could have failed epicly when it first started and, so far, has had only minor parts. So, please, back off a little and give Square and Disney some credit. This is still a work in progress.That would be a perfectly good reason to forgive a demo, but this is a series of games.

 

He has good points, a few I dont give 2 shits about like the platform extension thing. I mean if you cant afford it then you cant afford it stop complaining about it and earn your money to buy it. He works for IGN, I doubt money is an issue. He's speaking for the common man

 

Another thing I did not agree with was "Pick a Normal name"

What in the world has that have to do with anything. Who cares what the name of the game is. Like they said "Dont judge the book by its cover" lets apply this to hear. "Dont judge the game by its title" What do you want Kingdom Hearts 5? Kingdom Hearts 7? Id like the title Birth by sleep better than a number if you ask me. Also even though DDD title was a little weird for me and I was not hating on it, I got used to it, and I was going to buy it anyways because I care of the game not title. A sensible name can go a long to making... sense...

 

The "Simplify" Section:

 

This made me laugh "managed to wrap up a lot of the loose ends by way of killing all the characters who were lame"

 

Oh good, another reaction image

 

They were not lame to me trust me. I trust you. Maybe to you, but lame is definatlly not the correct word

 

The other thing is his Billion Sora's. I get it there are too many sora's. But there is like Roxas, Xion and Namine. Ventus, Vanitas, Data Sora, Shadow Sora, Also, technically Kairi That is it. That is not really a lot at all. Ventus and Vanitas are a whole, they just live in Sora, but they are not part of him at all. Like literally not by friendship or heart links as I like to call.

 

What got me pissed was relating this to that "book and movie" you call "Twilight".

 

This isn't really like Twilight at all, because Twilight is about love and a 500 year old Vampire going out with like a 13-15 year old girl and a Werewolf who is a rapist. And she gets pregnant. Because he could only meant that Kingdom Hearts is a literal transcription of Twilight, right?

 

You see no rape, not love, only friendship love, and no pedo-ness love drama going on. (Xehanort maybe a pedo but that was not his intentions)

 

The story is complex, and I do undertand it though. But it being complex is not a bad thing. Complexity is one thing, convolution is another. Kingdom Hearts is convoluted, Deus Ex Human Revolution is complex It may be confusing at times but its not the end of the world that you have to go and say its sucks. You got a misleading title Mr.Hater. Ah, calling a person a hater, truly it is the most effective of insults And different characters personality and your relating this to Twilight with the main character having no emotion?

 

(Ps: The Twilight I was talking about is the Movie. The books are alright ( I guess))

 

Oh thank god, I was worried I wouldn't see another reaction image. I'll note that down.

 

Yeah, some do have chessy plots, I agree. But I've found that cheesy plots can be fun sometimes. Not always, but sometimes.

 

 

You bring up an excellent point. Almost anything could be excused by "its just an opinion, get over it".

"Kingdom Hearts sucks, but here's why it doesn't have too." - Opinion

"[in reply to above] You're an idiot." - Opinion

"All religions are wrong and anyone who belongs to one is stupid." - Opinion

 

How about we take a school shooting that just recently happened in my area? Three kids died, and the kid that shot them believed they deserved to. IN HIS OPINION they deserved to die. You really want to say "It's just an opinion, get over it?" No you don't, because those kids didn't deserve to die. Because what he did was wrong. Perhaps you are saying this is a bit too extreme to even be comparable? Not the point. Just because something is an opinion, doesn't mean that we have to accept it or "get over it". At its very foundation, saying "its just an opinion, get over it" is flawed. N

 

Now, I am not one of the people who is overreacting to this (as you can see from my first post in this thread), as the guy did make some good points. Maybe I am overreacting a bit in my argument that the excuse "its just an opinion, get over it" is crap. You are telling people to get over someone's opinion, but their overreaction is their opinion. Don't like that? Its just an opinion, get over it. Don't like what I am saying? Its just an opinion, get over it. Really, we shouldn't care about anything, and sites like this one (at least the forum part) wouldn't exist, because everything is an opinion and we should just get over it.

 

Ah the internet, you can always trust it to produce dramatic, unrelated situations to prove a point.

IGN just hate kingdom hearts. i made a post a while ago about how they gave kingdom hearts 2 a really low rating .. this is just to get people mad and read their article

 

That's irrational. Complaining about something does not equal hating.

I just read the article and understand the points the article is trying to make, but I have a problem with the fact of a "complex" story being a bad thing. The fact is that we have too many boring and straight forward storylinesComplexity can be straightforward. You can have a compelx plot that is still easy for newcomers to understand. Kingdom Hearts is a convoluted story that forms a solid wall in front of newcomers with abstract ideas that change from game to game. The questionable English dialog only compounds the issue. Look at most shooters these days, they are very straight forward or we have other games that have twists,Lo and behold, a sotry focused action RPG has more story than a multiplayer focused shooter. If you're going to draw a comparison, draw it from things that can be compared. but they are too easy to see. Metal Gear Solid is a great example of a story that is so complicated it really is difficult to comprehend, but that difficult to comprehend story makes you actually care about what goes on in the games Or give up. The issue of disney worlds is understandable, but at the same time the game has to become more than its appeal from Disney which it has. I think as the series goes further we will get different worlds, but this saga has yet to end so it doesn't make sense to add 10 new worlds that will never appear again. The side game issue is awesome because guess what it gives Nomura a chance to experiment with gameplays and takes less time to developit took this long for me I'm surprised it took this long for me to say, but Nomura has nothing to do with gameplay experimentation. That's not what he works on.. The side games add further background to the story of KH and I think they are welcome. This multi console crap is just another cry from people without PS consoles or Nintendo handhelds to complain about Yes, let us condemn the fools who don't own five specific consoles. How dare they complain about a game they enjoy being released on different consoles seemingly at random . It has no sound logic because FFXiii could have been so much more than what it was if it was exclusive to PS3 as it was originally intended to be.So basically, Kingdom Hearts being on mutliple consoles is justified by the fact that Final Fantasy XIII could have been better if it had stuck to just one console? Overall, this article is just trying to make points that aren't really that valid. Such as?

 

I forgot to mention this but when he said "Go into firetrucking Kingdom hearts already"

THEY ALREADY DID! IN THE FIRST GAME THEY DID! They opened a door, and closed it. We need a trangible Kingdom Hearts that actually explains its existence. Its the cornerstone of the franchise, so its lack of explaination over seven games is questionable at best. My god I dont think he even played the games or even watched the walkthroughs. And if he did, he basically did not pay attention.

 

Kingdom Hearts 1: The ending =_=

Kingdom Hearts RE: CHAIN OF MEMORIES: They were either in it, or at it during Riku's gameplay and final boss fight. Wait what? why would you think that?

Kingdom Hearts 2: The ending they did also!

 

Anyways IGN only loves Call of Duty and Pokemon because they hate every other games That's a silly thing to say . Ign are not rating games goodly now...trust me look at Call of Duty Black Ops. It got a 9.5 when everyone else said it was not great at the the campaign. Because the compaing is the only thing that matters...?

 

Also there was one guy who said Skyward Sword (Zelda) was bad because all of its stories are almost the same and the gameplay is too. Which is a true and valid point But when it was to Call of Duty Black ops, the guy loved it because IT HAD ITS ORIGINALITY (AKA THE SAME STORY) AND THE GAMEPLAY IS ORIGINAL TO THE FIRST GAME.Black Ops has no previous game. You're very clearly arguing about soething you don't actually know much about.

 

Nobody around here makes any sense.

[Junko 2,815]

Opinions, opinions (damn, so many long posts just to try and prove a point)

[Shana09 5,769]

And the good lord said that all comments shall be in bold

 

Get over yourself. Understanding KH doesn't make you intelligent.

 

What makes this article 'not okay'?

 

 

Ah the internet, you can always trust it to produce dramatic, unrelated situations to prove a point.

That's irrational. Complaining about something does not equal hating.

 

 

 

Nobody around here makes any sense.

 

Forgot to mention, BBS and BBSFM Secret episode shows Aqua in the Door of Darkness. The doors are Kingdom Hearts.

 

Hard to believe but it is true =/ they changed a lot into loving Black ops (or any Call of Duty games) and Pokemon.

 

What I meant by Black ops and Zelda thing is that the first Call of Duty game is quite similar to the others. The multiplayer and most of them. =_= there are other Call of Duty games besides Black Ops you know.

 

Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance now makes sense.

 

Ventus is his own person, he just joined his heart to be safe, he is not another Sora. Vanitas is part of Ventus so not another Sora. Shadow Sora and Data Sora I guess. Kairi was not born from Sora, so she is not another him.

[AwersomeOne 109]

 

 

Get over yourself. Understanding KH doesn't make you intelligent.

 

 

Get over myself? really idk why your telling me get over myself? Also where in my post did i say i was intelligent? (as in the really smart kind of intelligent) All im saying is that it doesn't take a genius to understand the storyline. So you can just shut up leave acting like your all high and mighty by judging people

[hatok 6,413]

Forgot to mention, BBS and BBSFM Secret episode shows Aqua in the Door of Darkness. The doors are Kingdom Hearts.

 

Hard to believe but it is true =/ they changed a lot into loving Black ops (or any Call of Duty games) and Pokemon.

 

What I meant by Black ops and Zelda thing is that the first Call of Duty game is quite similar to the others. The multiplayer and most of them. =_= there are other Call of Duty games besides Black Ops you know.

 

Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance now makes sense.

 

Ventus is his own person, he just joined his heart to be safe, he is not another Sora. Vanitas is part of Ventus so not another Sora. Shadow Sora and Data Sora I guess. Kairi was not born from Sora, so she is not another him.

 

The games need a clearer idea of what Kingdom Hearts is, if it's just a door to the Realm of Darkness, why would anybody care?

 

Wait, what? Since when do either of those names make sense. Birth By Sleep maybe, but only barely. Dream Drop Distance does not.

And a name that makes sense to so few people is not a good way to attract fans.

 

Ventus is his own incomplete person who fused with Sora, there are a lot of theories as to what happened after that, but I won't delve into them right now. Vanitas looks like Sora, and therefore is another Sora. As for Kairi, there is a reason I adroned her name with a 'technically'.

Get over myself? really idk why your telling me get over myself? Also where in my post did i say i was intelligent? (as in the really smart kind of intelligent) All im saying is that it doesn't take a genius to understand the storyline. So you can just shut up leave acting like your all high and mighty by judging people

 

Calling a person unintelligent for not understanding a plot implies that you DO understand that plot, and view your intelligence as higher than the aforementioned.

Opinions, opinions (damn, so many long posts just to try and prove a point)

 

Oh no, reading

[r0ckstarferlife 34]

And the good lord said that all comments shall be in bold

 

Get over yourself. Understanding KH doesn't make you intelligent.

 

What makes this article 'not okay'?

 

 

Ah the internet, you can always trust it to produce dramatic, unrelated situations to prove a point.

That's irrational. Complaining about something does not equal hating.

 

 

 

Nobody around here makes any sense.

 

haha wow man didnt mean to start something like that but i can agree it was definitely irrational. i sorta exaggerated, thought it was an understood sarcasm.

[hatok 6,413]

haha wow man didnt mean to start something like that but i can agree it was definitely irrational. i sorta exaggerated, thought it was an understood sarcasm.

 

I think you need to get a better grasp on what sarcasm is.

[SoraKH 793]

The story is kinda confusing but the arcticle is soo stupid

[Nikolasvanitas 358]

I just read the article and understand the points the article is trying to make, but I have a problem with the fact of a "complex" story being a bad thing. The fact is that we have too many boring and straight forward storylines. Look at most shooters these days, they are very straight forward or we have other games that have twists, but they are too easy to see. Metal Gear Solid is a great example of a story that is so complicated it really is difficult to comprehend, but that difficult to comprehend story makes you actually care about what goes on in the games. The issue of disney worlds is understandable, but at the same time the game has to become more than its appeal from Disney which it has. I think as the series goes further we will get different worlds, but this saga has yet to end so it doesn't make sense to add 10 new worlds that will never appear again. The side game issue is awesome because guess what it gives Nomura a chance to experiment with gameplays and takes less time to develop. The side games add further background to the story of KH and I think they are welcome. This multi console crap is just another cry from people without PS consoles or Nintendo handhelds to complain about. It has no sound logic because FFXiii could have been so much more than what it was if it was exclusive to PS3 as it was originally intended to be. Overall, this article is just trying to make points that aren't really that valid.

 

you know i really agree with the magority of your points ,you have a really good knowledge of the series and i respect that but there is only one thing that i would like to express a different opinion about,stating that ''This multi console crap is just another cry from people without PS consoles or Nintendo handhelds to complain about''is a littlet wrong i think ,i understand that you may have a wealty family and earn a lot of money but there are other people who really like the series but cannot afford to change from one console to another simply for only a game even if it is a really good one,unfortunately the majority of the kh fans are students or college students and i am not sure that everyone is able to spend money freely ,so try to be more open minded with people who may not afford to buy as many products as you ,in the end everyone likes the kh series lets not make distinctions between the kh fans by measuring the power of their wallets,this is only my humble opinion nothing more

[legendkiller222 22]

@hatok In regards to your response to my post; complex means composed of many interconnected parts. Straightforward would not equate in that definition. People can give up on a hard to understand storyline, you're 100% right, but why make things too straightforward so every doesn't have to think? To your comment in regards to the FPS v. ARPG storylines, my point is still valid they are still games and the point being in a market dominated by games that are very straightforward there is an appeal and want for games that have twists. Nomura doesn't work on gameplay, but he is the game director and leads the team. Saying Nomura is just like saying the whole KH team, he definitely tells the team his ideas and what he thinks would be good style. But your point didn't address the argument that it allows different gameplays to be experimented with. We have seen games go multiplatform and take longer to develop and be worse than if it stayed exclusive. FFxii argument is valid because it and KH are published by the same company and team members have worked on both titles. It's simple logic if you only need to focus on one console its less work and you can give yourself more time to focus on the gameplay/story instead of converting it to another system. The valid points that aren't that valid that I claimed the article made, but didn't provide specifics are the ones I addressed. It's okay to disagree with people, but don't try to comment and insult people. There's a way to have a discussion without trying to act as if you have a superior intellect.

 

@Nikolasvanitas

 

I appreciate your comments, but being a broke college student myself who does not come from a wealthy family my point being is that regardless of money I rather not be able to play a game and it be good then be able to play it and it suck. I have never played BBS, 358/2 Days, or Re:Coded...and I won't be able to play KH:3D. But I watch the cutscenes and am fine with it because as long as the games are good I have no issue with them trying out different handhelds for the non-numbered games.