Greymon57 51 Posted January 25, 2012 Hey guys, Im a fan of all the games, yet I dont understand why ppl are looking forward so much to a KH3. I mean, I personally think all the KH games are great. Yet I've seen ppl ignore the portable titles saying they dont count or that they only wish to play the numbered games. My question is why does this happen? Does a name really make a game more or less enjoyable? I do understand that there are different teams working on the games, and more attention and work can be given to each. But still, why the fuss over a number? 6 axel91, Queen Tery, P50L and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted January 25, 2012 It is because people these days think they are worthless to the series. It is sad they did not even give a chance to Birth by Sleep and probably not even to DDD. I just cant wait to see their posts during or after Kh3 story 8 WatersGood, axel91, P50L and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689 Posted January 25, 2012 Because Nomura teases us. You know how epic BBS, KHI and KHII are. Add the fact we've waiting since 2005 for KHIII, along with the secrets endings and what do you get? Impatience and dismissal. I guess some people aren't as bothered by the teasers as the majority of the fandom is. 1 Sora's Baby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170 Posted January 25, 2012 I Think for Me It's Not that I Don't Like Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance Which I Will Never Say or At Least I Will At Least Try to Not Say Since I Absoutely Love It So Far but that I Think It's Because A Few People Like Myself May Possibly Believe that KH3D Serves as the Prologue to What May Just Be the Final Chapter of the Xehanort Saga that has Been With the Series Ever Since It's Very Beginning and I Think that Everybody Is Getting So Worked Up About This Might Possibly Just Be that This Is the Beginning Of Towards What Will Be the Final Battle Between Sora and Xehanort or At Least Maybe One of his Most Deadliest Incarnations Yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBucket2 114 Posted January 25, 2012 Because for some stupid reason the gaming industry puts a higher value to a number on a title than the actual content of that title. 3 Zenithia, hatok and thealienamongus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted January 25, 2012 Hey guys, Im a fan of all the games, yet I dont understand why ppl are looking forward so much to a KH3. I mean, I personally think all the KH games are great. Yet I've seen ppl ignore the portable titles saying they dont count or that they only wish to play the numbered games. My question is why does this happen? Does a name really make a game more or less enjoyable? I do understand that there are different teams working on the games, and more attention and work can be given to each. But still, why the fuss over a number? Considering that all the side games have given more plot developement ( Days, BBS) and continuation of story(DDD) while others give more detail or explanations, i dont mind the side games..To be honest i loved BBS and Days more than KH1....I loved Kh2 dont get me wrong its actually my favorite of the series..But i loved the side games for those many reasons as well. DDD has also continued the main plot so that cant be used as a complaint really.I think some complain of having the side games on so any different platforms causing them to have to spend a lot of money in order to play all the different games on different systems..However, KH3 i bet will be on a possible playstation 4....For those who skipped the side games they will lost and very sorry trying to play KH3 LOL 2 axel91 and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted January 25, 2012 I can't wait to see how well these people understand why things the way they are when they finally get their KH3, they're gonna be soooo lost. >D 1 waytothexdawnx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khrulesbbs 574 Posted January 25, 2012 People need to just enjoy the games we get and stop whining about it. Even if its not a KH 3 game its still important to the series. 4 Zenithia, axel91, waytothexdawnx and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmjow 839 Posted January 25, 2012 Because: 1.The numbered titles are made by the "true" KH team and the other ones are made by another one. Which isn't bad but it leads to this: 1.1 These games aren't meant to be as big as numbered titles and therefore have less content less importance and just aren't as great. Don't get me wrong they still are great games but not as great as numbered titles. Also there purpose is rather to stall since the real KH team works FFvs13. So there is a high possibility that if FFvs13 wasn't a thing that they may include those smaller games into KH III ect. 1.2 Too many consoles are required to play all these games. Maybe I am the only one but I have not the money to buy all consoles on which these games are released plus the games themselves. 2. Impatience. We are waiting for so long and we want a big polished numbered title on a big console so that the KH team can actually develop of full KH package. We want the FULL KH experience for which we are and will be waiting for so long. 3. Limitations. The hardware of consoles like the DS hinder KH games' full potential. Imagine how much better as example re:coded would've been on the PS3. But again... I really like the handheld titles ALOT! And I also know that we can't do anything about KH III late release due to FFvs13 (for which I am excited too by the way) But these are the reasons you asked for. 2 Shana09 and thealienamongus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akihiko 1,628 Posted January 25, 2012 If they named KH DDD KH3 everyone would care about it much more. It makes no sense. 2 axel91 and Greymon57 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greymon57 51 Posted January 25, 2012 You know how epic BBS, KHI and KHII are. Add the fact we've waiting since 2005 for KHIII, Yes but that is my question, Why have they been waiting for KHIII since 05? I mean why not look forward to the other games that are just as good. FYI BBS is not a numbered title and was absolutely epic. A Few People Like Myself May Possibly Believe that KH3D Serves as the Prologue to What May Just Be the Final Chapter of the Xehanort Saga that has Been With the Series Ever Since It's Very Beginning and I Think that Everybody Is Getting So Worked Up About This Might Possibly Just Be that This Is the Beginning Of Towards What Will Be the Final Battle Between Sora and Xehanort or At Least Maybe One of his Most Deadliest Incarnations Yet. I understand that, but you dont pick up a book, read the first 2 chapters, and skip to the final chapter. That wouldn't make any sense. You need to read all the other chapters as you work yourself towards the end. Because for some stupid reason the gaming industry puts a higher value to a number on a title than the actual content of that title. I dont think the industry does, I think the fan base are the ones who put the higher value. I think some complain of having the side games on so any different platforms causing them to have to spend a lot of money in order to play all the different games on different systems..However, KH3 i bet will be on a possible playstation 4....For those who skipped the side games they will lost and very sorry trying to play KH3 LOL I wouldn't call them side games, they are Main games, all part of the same big story, working in unison to provide the big picture. I do agree the multiple platforms can be a hassle, but it also allows each game to push the system. Also KH3 will be on the current generation of systems. And yes they will be lost. 1 axel91 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greymon57 51 Posted January 25, 2012 I can't wait to see how well these people understand why things the way they are when they finally get their KH3, they're gonna be soooo lost. >D People need to just enjoy the games we get and stop whining about it. Even if its not a KH 3 game its still important to the series. If they named KH DDD KH3 everyone would care about it much more. It makes no sence. I agree with all of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170 Posted January 25, 2012 Here are the Games I Believe to be the Main Games of the Series: Kingdom Hearts Final Mix. Kingdom Hearts Re Chain Of Memories. Kingdom Hearts Re Reverse/Rebirth. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix. Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix. Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. Kingdom Hearts III. While the Other Games Serve as Prologues to the Main Games Listed Above: Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days to Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep Final Mix. Kingdom Hearts Re Coded to Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greymon57 51 Posted January 25, 2012 Because: 1.The numbered titles are made by the "true" KH team and the other ones are made by another one. Which isn't bad but it leads to this: 1.1 These games aren't meant to be as big as numbered titles and therefore have less content less importance and just aren't as great. Don't get me wrogn they are great but not as great as numbered titles. Also there purpose is rather to stall since the real KH team works FFvs13. So there is a high possibility that if FFvs13 wasn't a thing that they may include those smaller games into KH III ect. 1.2 Too many consoles are required to play all these games. Maybe I am the only one but I have not the money to buy all consoles on which these games are released plus the games themselves. 2. Impatience. We are waiting for so long and we want a big polished numbered title on a big console so that the KH team can actually develop of full KH package. We want the FULL KH experience for which we are and will be waiting for so long. 3. Limitations. The hardware of consoles like the DS hinder KH games' full potential. Imagine how much better as example re:coded would've been on the PS3. But again... I really like the handheld titles ALOT! And I also know that we can't do anything about KH III late release due to FFvs13 (for which I am excited too by the way) But these are the reasons you asked for. Ah ok, here is a post that actually presents a valid argument. I still disagree with said argument, but I find it valid. Ok so: 1.1 Yes I agree, the games are not as big. But that is not neccessarily a bad thing. My favorite KH game happens to be Chain of Memories. The different teams adds to different feels on the story. And I can see how some ppl may not enjoy a certain feel. As for me, I love variety. It spices up things. 1.2 Again I agree. I dont have the money either. While I can't play them all, that doens't mean they are bad. Besides I can watch other ppl play them on youtube. Not the same experience but still pretty fun. 2. Again with the waiting for a number? ITS JUST A NUMBER. Anyways, I wont argue about experience. Experience may mean different things to different people. Just careful not to hype it up too much. Zelda fans are still waiting for another Ocarina experience, but that probably will never happen. 3. Hmmm... not sure I understand what you mean. Are you talking about graphics? Im not a big fan of how a game looks. But then again, you may be talking about something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted January 25, 2012 Yes but that is my question, Why have they been waiting for KHIII since 05? I mean why not look forward to the other games that are just as good. FYI BBS is not a numbered title and was absolutely epic. I understand that, but you dont pick up a book, read the first 2 chapters, and skip to the final chapter. That wouldn't make any sense. You need to read all the other chapters as you work yourself towards the end. I dont think the industry does, I think the fan base are the ones who put the higher value. I wouldn't call them side games, they are Main games, all part of the same big story, working in unison to provide the big picture. I do agree the multiple platforms can be a hassle, but it also allows each game to push the system. Also KH3 will be on the current generation of systems. And yes they will be lost. .I know that they are part of the main story.I did point that out already. But since they arent on a main console thats what people consider them ..By the time Kh3 comes out the current system will probably be the playstation 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimmjow 839 Posted January 25, 2012 Ah ok, here is a post that actually presents a valid argument. I still disagree with said argument, but I find it valid. Ok so: 1.1 Yes I agree, the games are not as big. But that is not neccessarily a bad thing. My favorite KH game happens to be Chain of Memories. The different teams adds to different feels on the story. And I can see how some ppl may not enjoy a certain feel. As for me, I love variety. It spices up things. 1.2 Again I agree. I dont have the money either. While I can't play them all, that doens't mean they are bad. Besides I can watch other ppl play them on youtube. Not the same experience but still pretty fun. 2. Again with the waiting for a number? ITS JUST A NUMBER. Anyways, I wont argue about experience. Experience may mean different things to different people. Just careful not to hype it up too much. Zelda fans are still waiting for another Ocarina experience, but that probably will never happen. 3. Hmmm... not sure I understand what you mean. Are you talking about graphics? Im not a big fan of how a game looks. But then again, you may be talking about something else. 1.2 Well actually Twilight Princess had a great OoT charm to it. 2. It is not about the number or the title. It is the experience KH III stands for. I wouldn't care if it was called "KH: This Game Is Stupid And Not A Numbered Title" as long as it is a KH by the true KH team programmed on a strong and big Sony console like the PS3 (but we all know its going to be PS4) which delivers EVERYTHING the KH fans long for with a LONG main story many side quests great graphics great story great cutscenes great gameplay ON A BIG SCREEN and focusing on the storyline after KH II or now after KH: DDD and climaxing (yes I said climaxing.... stop laughing you pre-pubescent pricks) in the final showdown against (Master) Xehanort. 1.1 Well yes.. games that aren't as good as they COULD be is actually a bad thing. As we both say.. they are good. But they would be better included as a part of KH III programmed on a stronger console which allows "better everything" which leads us directly to 3. 3. I mean that the hardware of the PS4 could not even be compared to those of the 3DS which broadens the limits for the game as example: better graphics, more content, better cutscenes in real time which are also VOICED... more side quests, bigger and more worlds, better controls, viewed on a big ass HD TV and I bet many more advantages I can't pick outta my head right now. 1 Greymon57 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizzie1238 538 Posted January 25, 2012 1. I want a super epic and amazing PS3 KH game 2. I want Xehanort to die 3. I want to see what will happen in the series after the Xehanort saga (and they obviously can't make KH4 before 3...............or can they?..............I think I just figured out the worst thing Nomura could possibly do to us 3 PrinceWatermelon, Kishira and Greymon57 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Everbee 1,365 Posted January 25, 2012 Welcome to kh13. You will get pie when I say you get pie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greymon57 51 Posted January 25, 2012 they obviously can't make KH4 before 3...............or can they?..............I think I just figured out the worst thing Nomura could possibly do to us That would be Epic! Nomura be trolling Anyways, the games move in random order so it is a possibility, but I doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exodaze 491 Posted January 25, 2012 I am eager for Kingdom Hearts 3 for one reason: To know the truth about the mysteries in the story. Not that I want this game to end but I want this series to continue with fresh stories, one that Nomura doesn't make up as he goes along. I think my biggest issue about the series is that, there is no plan ahead. I think it is a story-as-we-go-along type of story which I hate. I also think that Kingdom Hearts games are all important but some are just more important than others. Regardless, I love the series no matter what. And I would wait eagerly to know the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lady Dreana Posted January 25, 2012 That would be Epic! Nomura be trolling Anyways, the games move in random order so it is a possibility, but I doubt it. that's not the worst thing that could happen LEAVING THE GAME AT A CLIFF HANGER ONLY TO CANCEL THE SERIES ALL TOGETHER IS.and uh just for the record what does trolling mean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 437 Posted January 25, 2012 Looking at all the posts, I'm not seeing a decent one. Basically, people complain because 2006 was the last MAIN MAIN game came out, which was Kingdom Hearts II. Then what, 5 years of sugar coating the series with numerous games that just make KH go from an easy-to-get-into series that was seriously fun and loveable, to a complex piece of clusterfiretruck that even Einstein would have trouble trying to make a theory about it? They want KH3 now, so they can see the ending. To see how the cherry on top. To finish off one of their greatest experiences ever...and then starting fresh with a new Saga, whatever that will be. Why bother making more plot holes when the game is fine as it is? Then you have two more issues to begin on with the later games. Portable Console and its limitation, as with someone said above. First off, I'm sure everyone is really sick of buying a new system so that they could play KH. PS2 - KH1, ReCoM, KH2. GBA - CoM. DS - 358/2 Days, Recoded. PSP - Birth by Sleep. 3DS - Dream Drop Distance. I'm sure it's not rocket science to figure out that they keep spreading to many systems, and systems ARE NOT CHEAP. It's seriously that diverse in gaming that causes such an annoyance that they just want KH3 and that's it. And secondly, you have to deal with the system's limits. Obiviously, when the KH series was starting out, PS2 wasn't exactly Tier 1 in graphics, space, power, etc. The same could be said to the newer systems. They may be better than PS2 (somehow) in anyway seen possible, but you seen how 358/2 Days worked. It's graphics was quite....pixalish, space was crammed so much, its mechanics are quite bleh...I mean, I don't know what else to say. But let's take PS3. PS3, or hell even 360, is top notch. It pretty much blows the competition away. Seeing KH3 on it would feel orgasmic to any fan who played KH. All the things that were wrong in the portable systems or things that could not have worked or was limited on, is fixed and revamped on KH3. I can't time travel myself, but if I got to play KH3, I'd say firetruck all the other games, in all honesty. I don't mind seeing more games, because Nomura keeps making the games fun, as well as keeping strong plots for the games (Recoded not so much, but whatever, still was playable). Other people are done with seeing them, because it's the same thing with different changes. Concept is the same, and really just repetitive. KH DDD is of course becoming groundbreaking, and that's why you're seeing a lot more people excited for that than like Recoded. New way of playing, new ally system, definitely new worlds (cmon, a couple new worlds for Birth by Sleep?), lots of mindblowns. What else can I say? I can hardly blame anyone for skipping the portable ones, because Nomura keeps making them without a huge game coming along the way (I guess if you can count DDD?). It's just crumbs of a cookie, not even a regular one. Of course, sucks to be them when they're not updated on the series. It's going to be laughable when I see the same shit being asked about what happened and who "died" in the DDD forum. And one last thing, because I just read something, and I'm not naming anybody, but if anyone excludes a game like 358/2 Days, Recoded, etc, from the main series, you're not a KH fan. I'm seriously sick of seeing people saying it's side game or a spin-off. They all contribute to the main series, and they're all important in own ways. Hell, Nomura says they're not side games either. So people, either main games or GTFO. Tanks a bunch. /done rant. 1 Kishira reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirr0rVS13 169 Posted January 25, 2012 Just make KH3 for the handhelds already and get it over with so we can move on to KH4 already. :rolleyes: LOL :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Where's Sora 47 Posted January 25, 2012 A lot of people are always hyped. If it does not come this year they think maybe next year. IT HAS BEEN 6 YEARS SINCE KH2 I HAVE STOPPED WIDHING FOR KH3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted January 25, 2012 Looking at all the posts, I'm not seeing a decent one. Basically, people complain because 2006 was the last MAIN MAIN game came out, which was Kingdom Hearts II. Then what, 5 years of sugar coating the series with numerous games that just make KH go from an easy-to-get-into series that was seriously fun and loveable, to a complex piece of clusterfiretruck that even Einstein would have trouble trying to make a theory about it? They want KH3 now, so they can see the ending. To see how the cherry on top. To finish off one of their greatest experiences ever...and then starting fresh with a new Saga, whatever that will be. Why bother making more plot holes when the game is fine as it is? Then you have two more issues to begin on with the later games. Portable Console and its limitation, as with someone said above. First off, I'm sure everyone is really sick of buying a new system so that they could play KH. PS2 - KH1, ReCoM, KH2. GBA - CoM. DS - 358/2 Days, Recoded. PSP - Birth by Sleep. 3DS - Dream Drop Distance. I'm sure it's not rocket science to figure out that they keep spreading to many systems, and systems ARE NOT CHEAP. It's seriously that diverse in gaming that causes such an annoyance that they just want KH3 and that's it. And secondly, you have to deal with the system's limits. Obiviously, when the KH series was starting out, PS2 wasn't exactly Tier 1 in graphics, space, power, etc. The same could be said to the newer systems. They may be better than PS2 (somehow) in anyway seen possible, but you seen how 358/2 Days worked. It's graphics was quite....pixalish, space was crammed so much, its mechanics are quite bleh...I mean, I don't know what else to say. But let's take PS3. PS3, or hell even 360, is top notch. It pretty much blows the competition away. Seeing KH3 on it would feel orgasmic to any fan who played KH. All the things that were wrong in the portable systems or things that could not have worked or was limited on, is fixed and revamped on KH3. I can't time travel myself, but if I got to play KH3, I'd say firetruck all the other games, in all honesty. I don't mind seeing more games, because Nomura keeps making the games fun, as well as keeping strong plots for the games (Recoded not so much, but whatever, still was playable). Other people are done with seeing them, because it's the same thing with different changes. Concept is the same, and really just repetitive. KH DDD is of course becoming groundbreaking, and that's why you're seeing a lot more people excited for that than like Recoded. New way of playing, new ally system, definitely new worlds (cmon, a couple new worlds for Birth by Sleep?), lots of mindblowns. What else can I say? I can hardly blame anyone for skipping the portable ones, because Nomura keeps making them without a huge game coming along the way (I guess if you can count DDD?). It's just crumbs of a cookie, not even a regular one. Of course, sucks to be them when they're not updated on the series. It's going to be laughable when I see the same shit being asked about what happened and who "died" in the DDD forum. And one last thing, because I just read something, and I'm not naming anybody, but if anyone excludes a game like 358/2 Days, Recoded, etc, from the main series, you're not a KH fan. I'm seriously sick of seeing people saying it's side game or a spin-off. They all contribute to the main series, and they're all important in own ways. Hell, Nomura says they're not side games either. So people, either main games or GTFO. Tanks a bunch. /done rant. Some consider any game thats not on a main console a side game.Heck i call them side games..However, i also pointed out that i consider them just as important for the many reasons i already stated and i sure as heck played every single game in the series and think it'll be firetrucking hilarious to see all the lost people who didnt deem them important Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites