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KH3D The Return of the Organization Members and Their Relevance

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Okay, like the lengthy title says, this thread is meant to discuss which Organization members will return and what relevance they will have to the plot.

 

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The truth about Lea’s appearance in the trailer!

—The scene where King Mickey confronts Maleficent caught our attention. At what time period does that scene occur?

Nomura: It occurs after Re:Coded, during the KH3D period. Since King Mickey is in possession of the “Data Worlds”, Maleficent is demanding that he hand them over. This scene occurs in between intervals of Sora and Riku’s adventure.

—Maleficent tells Sora and co. about the enemies with “hearts of pure light” and releasing the “seven keyholes of sleep”. Do these have some sort of connection with one another?

Nomura: You’ll see what she means when you play it, so please look forward to that. (Laughs.) The connections of the various mysteries and truths are what it builds up to.

—Well, can you tell us about “Lea” who interrupts the confrontation between the King and Maleficent?

Nomura: That’s Axel as he has returned to being human. In the same place are Zexion and Lexaeus too, they have also returned to being human.

—Do they have their memories of being Nobodies?

Nomura: They do.

—So their Heartless, you’re saying they were defeated somewhere along the line?

Nomura: Well Sora has defeated many Heartless before now, hasn’t he? To say that they returned to being human, their Heartless was probably included among those, huh? (Laughs.) Even when Sora became a Heartless, he was a normal Shadow type. The details of their Heartless aren’t really that important.

—I see. By the way, it seems Xigbar or any of the others were not present in that place…?

Nomura: In that scene, those guys had just been revived as humans. It’s not shown in the trailer, but there are other Members there, they have a conversation about what happened to the Members who are not there. They are in the place where they originally disappeared… In other words, they were revived in the place where they lost their hearts; everyone should be in the research lab. However there are Members who don’t appear there for some reason.

—After their conversation, Axel says he is leaving to search for something.

Nomura: That’s right.

—Will KH3D’s story be concerned with Organization XIII at all?

Nomura: Concerning Organization XIII, the secrets about what specific Members were up to during certain time periods will be revealed.

 

So it's been confirmed that multiple Organization members are returning besides just Ienzo, Aeleus, Xehanort, and Lea. Who else has a chance to appear?

 

I - Xehanort/Xemnas: It should be obvious why Xehanort is back. He'll be back as Apprentice Xehanort, assuming that's who he was before he split in two.

 

II - Braig/Xigbar: James Patrick Stuart isn't "at liberty" to discuss KH 3D, so we can only assume he's in it. Braig has been shown in the trailer, but I'm sure he'll be assisting Xehanort like he did in BBS. But, what if Braig were to turn good? What if the darkness isn't to his liking? After what he's been through as a Nobody and a Heartless, assuming he has his memories from that. It's a stretch.

 

III - Dilan/Xaldin: Dilan was one of Ansem the Wise's Apprentices. I'm positive Ansem will come back, so why not have his original apprentices greet him? What will his purpose be, however? What will he do for the plot?

 

IV - Even/Vexen: Even I don't know too much about, as I haven't seen a bunch of CoM. I do know he's responsible for the replicas. Xion's "heart" still needs mending, or saving, whatever you want to call it. She could be tied to Even in that way, but that's really reaching. Oh, and if the Riku in Monstro(it's been pretty much confirmed Sora is before Pinocchio is eaten by Monstro and Riku is after) is Repliku, like a lot of the threads I've seen have stated, I want to say Even has something to do with this....

 

V - Aeleus/Lexaeus: Aeleus was another original apprentice. He's been confirmed to be back, by the interview and the trailer. For what, though? I'm curious. :D And I want to know what he and Ienzo have to do with Axel. I think he just wants WINGS. (If you get the reference, you win a cookie. :3

 

VI - Ienzo/SexionZexion: Ienzo, once again an original apprentice. He also has been confirmed to be back, like Aeleus. I'd really like to know why he's back over the other members. I'm hoping he'll have relevance and importance to the plot, as I'm hoping the other Organization members will have. As long as his hair gets screen time, I'll be happy. :D Oh, and how he aged so damn much would be nice to know. Did he evade death for 10 years?

 

VII - Isa/Saïx: Isa is someone I am hoping to see since Lea is back. I want to know where he got that scar....His relevance? Make sure Lea isn't lonely? There's so much potential for Isa, though, but none of it is coming to mind. TwT

 

VIII - Lea/Axel: Lea is back for fanservice AND relevance to the plot. I'm glad he's back, either way. What his relevance is...probably having to do with Ven/Roxas. And whatever he is looking for. I am sure that Nomura was referring to Lea and Isa when he talked about what they were up to during certain time periods. Marluxia could be included there, as well.

 

IX - Demyx: I HIGHLY doubt Demyx will return. He was pretty insignificant. I don't dislike him, though. Even though I hated his boss fight in KH II.

 

X - Luxord: I don't see Luxord returning at all. I did like his accent though. Shame.

 

 

XI - Marluxia: I see Marluxia having potential to come back. Well, not fully coming back but showing more of what his intentions were in KH: CoM.

 

XII - Larxene: I don't know how Larxene can fit in KH3D alone, so I think she'll be one of the characters that won't return. She might be shown in a flashback with Marluxia, though.

 

XIII - Sora/Roxas: I'm sure that Roxas won't just die off. He and Namine are here to stay. Well, I feel that way anyway. He still has to finish some things with Axel and Xion. I wonder what happens to him when Ven comes back. I'm anxious to see what Nomura'll do with him. He'll be acting through Sora, though.

 

XIV - No. i/Xion: Xion still needs to be healed/thanked/fixed/whatever it's called. I don't think she'll be scrapped so easily. Same with Roxas and Namine. They're important characters, IMO. I REALLY don't want Nomura to off with them now that they're with their Somebodies again. I want to know how Xion is going to work out....maybe Namine will have something to do with this and bringing Sora's memories into light? I wonder....

 

That's pretty much it! Do you think Organization members are here to stay? What about Roxas, Namine, and Xion? Please leave your thoughts on my "theories" and leave your own theories below!

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  On 1/22/2012 at 11:17 PM, 'PrinceWatermelon' said:

II - Braig/Xigbar: James Patrick Stuart isn't "at liberty" to discuss KH 3D, so we can only assume he's in it. Braig has been shown in the trailer, but I'm sure he'll be assisting Xehanort like he did in BBS. But, what if Braig were to turn good? What if the darkness isn't to his liking? After what he's been through as a Nobody and a Heartless, assuming he has his memories from that. It's a stretch.

I'm not seeing Braig do a face turn any time soon. He seemed more than happy with being malicious when he was a human the first time, and even when his Nobody was fading out, he didn't seem to regret it a great deal. I reckon he's more likely to stick with being Xehanort's number two guy.

 

The member I want to see back the most is Even. I think it was a shame that he got killed off a bit uncerimoniously in CoM, especially when you consider that his character is pretty important for the Organization in general, and with Roxas and Xion especially (assuming that their storyline will be continued somewhere down the line). Not to mention that his voice acting and dialogue are executed very well, and has way more personality than some of the rest.

 

It would also be interesting to see Marluxia and Larxene, if for no other reason that, as they tried to rebel against the Organization earlier, they would hardly be allowed back into the ranks, and then trying to see where they'd go. I imagine they'd pull a Pete/Malificient thing where they're their own gang with their own plans. Also, given that Marluxia was the main villain of CoM, and was certainly powerful within said game, you'd think he'd be back somewhere down the line if less interesting characters like Lexaeus are.

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  On 1/22/2012 at 11:49 PM, 'Dave' said:

I'm not seeing Braig do a face turn any time soon. He seemed more than happy with being malicious when he was a human the first time, and even when his Nobody was fading out, he didn't seem to regret it a great deal. I reckon he's more likely to stick with being Xehanort's number two guy.

 

I see what you did there. :P Thanks for your feedback!

 

 

  On 1/22/2012 at 11:49 PM, 'Dave' said:

I'm not seeing Braig do a face turn any time soon. He seemed more than happy with being malicious when he was a human the first time, and even when his Nobody was fading out, he didn't seem to regret it a great deal. I reckon he's more likely to stick with being Xehanort's number two guy.

 

The member I want to see back the most is Even. I think it was a shame that he got killed off a bit uncerimoniously in CoM, especially when you consider that his character is pretty important for the Organization in general, and with Roxas and Xion especially (assuming that their storyline will be continued somewhere down the line). Not to mention that his voice acting and dialogue are executed very well, and has way more personality than some of the rest.

 

It would also be interesting to see Marluxia and Larxene, if for no other reason that, as they tried to rebel against the Organization earlier, they would hardly be allowed back into the ranks, and then trying to see where they'd go. I imagine they'd pull a Pete/Malificient thing where they're their own gang with their own plans. Also, given that Marluxia was the main villain of CoM, and was certainly powerful within said game, you'd think he'd be back somewhere down the line if less interesting characters like Lexaeus are.

 

Although I don't agree with wanting Even back the most, I really like your reasoning for wanting him back. :D Oh, and thanks for giving Marluxia and Larxene relevance. Now I kinda want to see them back. Do you think that Organization members will continue to return after KH3D? (KHIII and after, if they aren't all back by then.)

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  On 1/22/2012 at 11:53 PM, 'PrinceWatermelon' said:

I see what you did there. :P Thanks for your feedback!

 

 

Although I don't agree with wanting Even back the most, I really like your reasoning for wanting him back. :D Oh, and thanks for giving Marluxia and Larxene relevance. Now I kinda want to see them back. Do you think that Organization members will continue to return after KH3D? (KHIII and after, if they aren't all back by then.)

 

It's hard to say. I agree with you that I don't see Luxord or Demyx coming back with any great significance, except maybe as walk through cameos. Luxord especially doesn't seem to have a lot going for him, mainly because his role in KH2 is a bit short and is limited more or less to a mini boss, he doesn't seem to have a connection to the original apprentices or Xehanort, and he didn't get the benefit of getting a backstory in BBS. If Demyx has an edge here, it's that his personality was more memorable in KH2, as well as having more screen time.

 

Also, another reason to think that Even may have a larger role ahead of him: in BBS, he seems to recognize that Ven is a special case, and claims they'll be seeing one another in the future (or something along those lines). Could be that his time as a Nobody only helped him to learn about keyblades and the nature of hearts, and now back to a whole, he's got more plans to go about exploiting them.

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tutti frutti. Thanks for the Interview/thoughts. Those from Xemnas/Xehanort to Axel/Lea plus Roxas/Sora I can definitely see come back for major plot reasons. But to me it would be more of a waste to have some of the members return as their somebodies and not have them in some kind of story. Part of me doesn't really believe that they are gone completely, but it's something to look forward to if by some chance they do come back and their backstory is revealed. I strongly hope that we see more of Marluxia, Larxene, Demyx, and Luxord more so since they seem to be left out the most in the group. There is the possibility that they have more to offer to the series over being dropped after two games.

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