Kishira 2,854 Posted February 8, 2012 I thought it was because Xehanort left his master and traveled all over the place, surely he would have learned things along the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 8, 2012 I thought it was because Xehanort left his master and traveled all over the place, surely he would have learned things along the way. My brother pupil Eraqus thinks only in absolutes. He has persuaded himself that light is the only way, but forgets that light cannot exist without shadow. I believe a balance of light and darkness is what sustains our World, but too much of the darkness has been stamped out, disrupting that balance. Someone must tear down this tyranny of light and reorganize the World around the darkness which then creeps back in. Eraqus and I did not see eye to eye. I left, and wandered the World. This was perhaps the first time I felt truly free since that day I departed my boyhood home. But free to do what? I had already shown the Mark and become a Keyblade Master—but having been passed over as a Successor, all that remained to me was the road of teacher. Xehnort aparrently did not leave until his discovery of the X-Blade and his fight with eraqus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XIIISwords 1,059 Posted February 8, 2012 NO Thank you for your insight, Doctor Patrick. No. He's qualified for it of course, but he isn't granted it by Master Eraqus. As said earlier, Xehanort was just flattering him. And I don't think the keyblade ceremony is just for masters; didn't Ven do it with Sora? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenithia 305 Posted February 8, 2012 Plus riku is solid proof that darkness can be used for good Eraqus is just racist against the darkness. My brother pupil Eraqus thinks only in absolutes. He has persuaded himself that light is the only way, but forgets that light cannot exist without shadow. I believe a balance of light and darkness is what sustains our World, but too much of the darkness has been stamped out, disrupting that balance. Someone must tear down this tyranny of light and reorganize the World around the darkness which then creeps back in. Eraqus and I did not see eye to eye. I left, and wandered the World. This was perhaps the first time I felt truly free since that day I departed my boyhood home. But free to do what? I had already shown the Mark and become a Keyblade Master—but having been passed over as a Successor, all that remained to me was the road of teacher. Xehnort aparrently did not leave until his discovery of the X-Blade and his fight with eraqus tutti frutti. To me even though darkness has been considered a danger in its own right, much like Riku has proven, it's how you use that power. Terra and Riku used darkness to help someone close to them. Sora, for example, could very well use the power of light to harm and hurt others on the same scale on how MX has caused the events in the KH series that we know now. As for MX leaving LoD/DI, I wonder how he found out about the X-Blade, Kingdom Hearts and the Keyblade War. Granted this information could have been passed down to him by his Keyblade Master, but I remember Eraqus mentioning on how certain information is barred from them. If that information was revealed to Eraqus and others, I think that a number of points in the series would have been changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 8, 2012 tutti frutti. To me even though darkness has been considered a danger in its own right, much like Riku has proven, it's how you use that power. Terra and Riku used darkness to help someone close to them. Sora, for example, could very well use the power of light to harm and hurt others on the same scale on how MX has caused the events in the KH series that we know now. As for MX leaving LoD/DI, I wonder how he found out about the X-Blade, Kingdom Hearts and the Keyblade War. Granted this information could have been passed down to him by his Keyblade Master, but I remember Eraqus mentioning on how certain information is barred from them. If that information was revealed to Eraqus and others, I think that a number of points in the series would have been changed. I agree yet I still find it odd how Eraqus and Xehanorts were brought up adversely in different styles despite having the same master wouldn't they had some simlarity in terms of knoweldge and ability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenithia 305 Posted February 8, 2012 I agree yet I still find it odd how Eraqus and Xehanorts were brought up adversely in different styles despite having the same master wouldn't they had some simlarity in terms of knoweldge and ability. tutti frutti. I've always guessed that Eraqus was one of those people that unknowingly limit what they can learn. For example, by him believing that light is absolute and darkness is a total enemy he doesn't seem to take in the possibility on what could happen if the balance was shattered if there was nothing but light. 1 Nikolasvanitas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolasvanitas 358 Posted February 8, 2012 tutti frutti. I've always guessed that Eraqus was one of those people that unknowingly limit what they can learn. For example, by him believing that light is absolute and darkness is a total enemy he doesn't seem to take in the possibility on what could happen if the balance was shattered if there was nothing but light. yep i agree ,eraqus perspective of the balance of the worlds was that only light should exist and dominate darkness and anyhting else that oposes the light,while sora riku and mickey believe in a balance ,they fight for the light but they accept the darkness 1 Zenithia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenithia 305 Posted February 9, 2012 yep i agree ,eraqus perspective of the balance of the worlds was that only light should exist and dominate darkness and anyhting else that oposes the light,while sora riku and mickey believe in a balance ,they fight for the light but they accept the darkness tutti frutti. It it was that same belief in absolute light that definitely came back and stabbed him in the back. It wasn't Ven's fault for being used to forge the X-Blade, and Terra merely wanted to keep Ven safe from being hurt by Eraqus. I don't think either light or darkness is ultimately evil, it's more so how it's used, similar idea with weapons. Even though the story Kairi's grandmother told about darkness being born from people wanting the light for themselves, light itself could be evil if used in the wrong way. 2 Robbie the Wise and Nikolasvanitas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolasvanitas 358 Posted February 9, 2012 tutti frutti. It it was that same belief in absolute light that definitely came back and stabbed him in the back. It wasn't Ven's fault for being used to forge the X-Blade, and Terra merely wanted to keep Ven safe from being hurt by Eraqus. I don't think either light or darkness is ultimately evil, it's more so how it's used, similar idea with weapons. Even though the story Kairi's grandmother told about darkness being born from people wanting the light for themselves, light itself could be evil if used in the wrong way. yes thats why i like kh ,its not that light is only good and darkness is only evil,its the person who uses each power that defines whether he is evil or good,there are many sides 1 Zenithia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenithia 305 Posted February 9, 2012 yes thats why i like kh ,its not that light is only good and darkness is only evil,its the person who uses each power that defines whether he is evil or good,there are many sides tutti frutti. I think that there will be more to see on how there will be users of light and darkness in future installments on top of how they will use it. If Sora and Riku can use light and dark respectively to help others, then I think that both powers have more to offer and the story concerning both can be pretty interesting to see if done right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted February 10, 2012 I think that after everything's said and done, and Terra is saved, that he will be a master. I actually believe that in his heart, he wasn't really ready to be a master yet. And it's not really about darkness and light (which, all Terra got from the darkness was being possessed, just saying); darkness and light, it doesn't really matter, it depends on the heart using it. Riku, for example, has the heart to use darkness and still do good. Darkness only tends to be evil 99% of the time the same way light usually tends to be good (say 75%--insert comment about roman catholic church). But like Fairy Godmother said, you don't just fight darkness with light; you fight with your heart. That's what it means to be a keyblade master, not skill alone. 2 Nikolasvanitas and Zenithia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolasvanitas 358 Posted February 10, 2012 tutti frutti. I think that there will be more to see on how there will be users of light and darkness in future installments on top of how they will use it. If Sora and Riku can use light and dark respectively to help others, then I think that both powers have more to offer and the story concerning both can be pretty interesting to see if done right. i really like this idea,i hope we get to see this in future kh games 1 Zenithia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
