Sanctuary Backwards? A hidden message?

[DarkAngelGrl22567 10]

Yeah, I knew that!

 

When I first played KH2 I looked up the lyrics and it had 'I need more affection then you know' or something like that in parentheses so I looked it up. I was like, "Coolio!"

 

I prefer Simple and Clean to Sanctuary though.... Don't ask why I said that >.<

[Vexaim 1]

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[Koko 3,944]

It's definetly not a coincedence because of the lyrics in reverse is 'THey said I was Ansem'

yeah that's totally coincedential

[Keyblader 325]

well i don't have a clue about that, but i liked watching it backwards

[RoxasStalker 11]

They totaly did that on perpose! And btw I didn't know that simple and clean could be played backwards too!

[heartless101 83]

whoever did this was awesome, I would've never imagined that someone would try to interpet Sanctuary backwards

[Protoman 1,974]

Well, I'mma backwards expert...

I need more affection than you know, I need true emotions, and so many ups and downs are the ones that were SUPPOSED to be backwards, and you can tell they are in the forwards version.

However, the rest seems to be fan interpreted, and may or may not be true.

 

As the forward version is about Sora, Riku(?) and Kairi, The backwards version is believed to be about Roxas, Dark Riku(?), and Namine.

 

Now about Simple and Clean being backwards isn't possible to mean anything, since the song was made before Kingdom Hearts, and therefore not for the game, so it would of sounded like that anyway without the game existing.

 

They all sound really cool. :'D

[JTD95 1,107]

If it REALLY was a hidden message there then it would have to be in the Japanese version of the song too, which I doubt it is!

[Tom 437]

If it REALLY was a hidden message there then it would have to be in the Japanese version of the song too, which I doubt it is!

 

Really? Then try to translate the lyrics when the song is backwards and Japanese. Then come back and tell me

[Rebellexa 0]

That's freakin' awesome... I seriously thought those parts were in Japanese.

But I don't think those three backwards parts are referring to Sora, Riku, and Kairi(I know the rest pretty much does). It's the theme for KH2 and Days(I could of sworn it was for CoM too, but I don't have the Re: version, so...), both in which Nobodies play a big part(espeically Days, plus KH2 is where Mansex gets his rear handed to him, no pun intended), so I'm thinking it could refer to the Nobodies' side of things. Think about it:

"I need more affection than you know" = The Nobodies have no one fighting for them and no one else on their side, but since they can't feel, they're anatognized(sp?) and well... I can't put it into words. Nobody cares about what happens to them, something like that.

"So many ups and downs" = The entire run of the Organization was up and down. Victories, death of members. A growing Kingdom Hearts, treason by Flower Boy. Then Mansex absorbing the power, and then they all go boom. Ups and downs can also describe the course of Days, although the song was written before Days(although, the basic storyline could have been set in... it takes years to make a game, especially one like KH.)

"I need true emotion" = That's the most obvious one. They all want a heart to feel with. All they can do is remember what the feelings were like and express that.

 

I wish someone would make a version of the backwards parts put into the real song. It might sound really off, but I'm willing to suffer through it.

[Roxas-sora 1]

i think sanctuary reversed is the dark side of every thing( i need more effection than you know) or the nobodies part needing emotion and just feeling period and forward is happy( where fears and lies melt away)

[Koko 3,944]

If it REALLY was a hidden message there then it would have to be in the Japanese version of the song too, which I doubt it is!

 

ive heard from others that theres a hidden message in the Japanese as well.

Also the Japanese version has a different translation.

So the English version and the Japanese version have COMPLETELY different language (not because of the language just like the translations)

 

I do belive that there's a meaning to the lyrics in reverse.

I mean it says 'I hear I was ANSEM' I mean that cant possible be a coincidence!

[Sorage55 10]

 

If it REALLY was a hidden message there then it would have to be in the Japanese version of the song too, which I doubt it is!

 

ive heard from others that theres a hidden message in the Japanese as well.

Also the Japanese version has a different translation.

So the English version and the Japanese version have COMPLETELY different language (not because of the language just like the translations)

 

I do belive that there's a meaning to the lyrics in reverse.

I mean it says 'I hear I was ANSEM' I mean that cant possible be a coincidence!

 

coincidence? THIS IS TOO MUCH OF A COINCIDENCE! IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING!

[Protoman 1,974]

Some people also say I hear I was handsome. lolz

We all know it makes sence in some odd way... and sorta recaps parts of KH1 and introduces KH2 backwards in a way it couldn't do forwards....

Since I need true emotions/So many ups and downs/I need more affection than you know was intentional, was can say the rest was.

 

"Yeah I was him, Someone now turn it down." Well, backwards wise this part is where Roxas is, but forawards wise, its on a Sora reaching for Kairi.

"He was Ansem" Is on a part backwards where you see Sora, Riku and Kairi.

Forawards Video+Backwards music you See a dark suited Riku.

 

"Wasn't it easy?" is backwards on a Namine part, Forwards on a Riku turning into Ansem part.

 

"Yeah I was him, we all three grew I hear I was ansem, I hear I was ansem" etc. Backwards is on a Sora part, forwards Riku, Sora Pwning ansem part...

 

To see some more and compare the two

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0g1IeeIbUk

[Rebellexa 0]

I can't believe some people are actually considering that the entire song backwards has some meaning. If you listen close, you can see(or rather hear) it's just someone trying to pull words out of it. Like those joke videos with "Misheard Lyrics". Most of the words don't even match up, and the ones that do sound too weird to be on purpose. "Ansem" doesn't sound like Ansem. Most of the stuff doesn't make sense! "We shall back"? WTF? I can understand how somebody can weave and twist meanings to this that tie into the game, I tried it myself not only with this song but a lot of the other stuff I listen to in order to get it to fit a story. But ya'll need to use some common sense. Here's an example: "I hear I was Ansem" could refer to Riku transforming into Xenahort(who took on Ansem's name and whom the Organization refers to as Ansem) when he accepted the darkness. Okay, so what's wrong with this? He knew he looked like that. He even knew it would happen before he transformed. Why would he suddenly realize it when he "hears" it from someone? It doesn't make sense. Most of the lines don't even fit together. I'm thinking about going thru and disproving every fan-heard line just to prove a point.

 

I know everyone thinks there is a hidden message, but honestly people, would Nomura REALLY go that far as to writing lyrics that have meanings backward and forward? It's too much. I'm sure if everyone heard it first without the person putting subtitles you wouldn't have a clue what she's saying. The words make it seem like those are the words, when most of them don't even match the subtitle.

 

Although it's cool, I'm sure there isn't a hidden message.

 

Exactly. Is it even possible to make a song resemble a palindrome? There's no way to make a song have meanings both backwards and normal without something being screwy. You hear what you want to hear. Everyone was expecting to hear KH-related lyrics, and that's the element of it they were able to fabricate.

[Protoman 1,974]

Its still fun to believe. We don't have to make all that big of a deal over it except the parts that were suppost to be backwards. :'D

[Rebellexa 0]

I know, but it just doesn't sit right with me that people believe something that obviously ain't true.

[darklighter 4]

Actually Sanctuary reversed is pretty much like Riku's side of the story in a way. And simple and clean reversed is Roxas's story I believe

 

True, It said i was ansem, i was ansem like two times.

[Sorage55 10]

I can't believe some people are actually considering that the entire song backwards has some meaning. If you listen close, you can see(or rather hear) it's just someone trying to pull words out of it. Like those joke videos with "Misheard Lyrics". Most of the words don't even match up, and the ones that do sound too weird to be on purpose. "Ansem" doesn't sound like Ansem. Most of the stuff doesn't make sense! "We shall back"? WTF? I can understand how somebody can weave and twist meanings to this that tie into the game, I tried it myself not only with this song but a lot of the other stuff I listen to in order to get it to fit a story. But ya'll need to use some common sense. Here's an example: "I hear I was Ansem" could refer to Riku transforming into Xenahort(who took on Ansem's name and whom the Organization refers to as Ansem) when he accepted the darkness. Okay, so what's wrong with this? He knew he looked like that. He even knew it would happen before he transformed. Why would he suddenly realize it when he "hears" it from someone? It doesn't make sense. Most of the lines don't even fit together. I'm thinking about going thru and disproving every fan-heard line just to prove a point.

 

 

I know everyone thinks there is a hidden message, but honestly people, would Nomura REALLY go that far as to writing lyrics that have meanings backward and forward? It's too much. I'm sure if everyone heard it first without the person putting subtitles you wouldn't have a clue what she's saying. The words make it seem like those are the words, when most of them don't even match the subtitle.

 

Although it's cool, I'm sure there isn't a hidden message.

 

Exactly. Is it even possible to make a song resemble a palindrome? There's no way to make a song have meanings both backwards and normal without something being screwy. You hear what you want to hear. Everyone was expecting to hear KH-related lyrics, and that's the element of it they were able to fabricate.

 

HOLD ON NOW! If you get a sound editing system that allows you to listen to the audio while playing it backwards, like Audacity or something, the lines are the SAME!

 

*shivers* Never felt shivers in awhile, maybe thats because fans are blowing all across my house right now, anyways, I just love the part at the end when Sora apologizes to Namine:

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[Roxas-sora 1]

though many who don't think that there is no reverse lyrics they use little to no info on how they believe it could be rational that he normura would go as far as he would. if you don't believe this than you have never had cared that much for your lifes passion and would like to not make things complicated

[Phill Devil 48]

People hear what they want to hear. If you want to believe that there is a hidden message on it, there will be, as if you don't there won't be. And anyways, the lyrics you have heard doesn't reveal anything, just the obvious playing the first three games.

 

Now, if Nomura did that on purpose, he's the only one who can tell.

[Rebellexa 0]

 

I can't believe some people are actually considering that the entire song backwards has some meaning. If you listen close, you can see(or rather hear) it's just someone trying to pull words out of it. Like those joke videos with "Misheard Lyrics". Most of the words don't even match up, and the ones that do sound too weird to be on purpose. "Ansem" doesn't sound like Ansem. Most of the stuff doesn't make sense! "We shall back"? WTF? I can understand how somebody can weave and twist meanings to this that tie into the game, I tried it myself not only with this song but a lot of the other stuff I listen to in order to get it to fit a story. But ya'll need to use some common sense. Here's an example: "I hear I was Ansem" could refer to Riku transforming into Xenahort(who took on Ansem's name and whom the Organization refers to as Ansem) when he accepted the darkness. Okay, so what's wrong with this? He knew he looked like that. He even knew it would happen before he transformed. Why would he suddenly realize it when he "hears" it from someone? It doesn't make sense. Most of the lines don't even fit together. I'm thinking about going thru and disproving every fan-heard line just to prove a point.

 

 

I know everyone thinks there is a hidden message, but honestly people, would Nomura REALLY go that far as to writing lyrics that have meanings backward and forward? It's too much. I'm sure if everyone heard it first without the person putting subtitles you wouldn't have a clue what she's saying. The words make it seem like those are the words, when most of them don't even match the subtitle.

 

Although it's cool, I'm sure there isn't a hidden message.

 

Exactly. Is it even possible to make a song resemble a palindrome? There's no way to make a song have meanings both backwards and normal without something being screwy. You hear what you want to hear. Everyone was expecting to hear KH-related lyrics, and that's the element of it they were able to fabricate.

 

HOLD ON NOW! If you get a sound editing system that allows you to listen to the audio while playing it backwards, like Audacity or something, the lines are the SAME!

 

*shivers* Never felt shivers in awhile, maybe thats because fans are blowing all across my house right now, anyways, I just love the part at the end when Sora apologizes to Namine:

 

 

Squish, I DO have Audacity. And the rest of that part made no sense...

[Amon 4,279]

This is an interesting find. I'm positive we are definitely over examining some parts but who knows?

 

From what I read so far if this is truly a subliminal message than we can expect a lot more KH games and major twist or two as well.

 

Usually when lyrics are played backward you get complete gibberish. Honestly if those lyrics weren't there I probably wouldn't hear anything except for the actual reverse parts.

 

Then again it may still be a message. I'm confused. :huh:

[Cricket 1,180]

Moved this since it is speculating what the the song is about when it is reversed...

On-topic: I think it relates with Riku's side of the story and some with Roxas'.

[Think Pink 1,967]

Well, I get it, but I don't think there was any secret message. I've seen a million of these, but everyone translates it differently, and there are some VERY different/translations of the exact same thing. It just depends on how you screw with the audio.