KH3D My Theories Based on What I Know (UPDATED) (Some potential spoilers, based on new info)

[Niosai 0]

These are my theories about KH3D based on everything I've seen/read about the game. I'm pretty much throwing it out there, so some things may contradict others. Consider it things to think about, and "what if" scenarios. Also, some of this info may have already been confirmed/denied. If so, just let me know. Again, I'm just going off of what I know in no specific order. Also, some of it may be obvious.

 

Cross-Out=MIGHT still be possible but unlikely.

Underline=Still possible in my opinion.

Bold=New and/or changed theory

Underline/bold=Confirmed in some manner

 

-Sora and Riku are taking the mark of mastery exam in an induced sleep. This also constitutes saving the world again.

 

-Organization members' "people" death are explained/how they became nobodies in this game

-I think Terranort took them out.

 

-Lea's grown up, and his organization robes are just his attire, as the organization didn't exist. It's just his normal clothes. (HA. I WAS RIGHT, mostly.)

 

-Getting out of the dream is part of the exam/completing it.

 

-Some worlds may be caught inside a dream world and can only be "released" if Sora/Riku seal the keyholes in their sleep.

-This may be part of the exam (It was already said, something along the lines of "Some worlds are trapped"...or something.)

 

-Neku and friends may be stuck inside the dream also, not just figments of Sora's imagination

 

-Sora and Riku look younger due to the dream.

 

-They have to fight each of their main antagonists in the game

 

-Xehanort may come back in the dream world, and they fight him there, only to release him into the real world (Prettyyyy sure he's back since the rest of the org. is back.)

 

-There may be a time limit for how long you can stay in the dream.

 

-Dreams may be where Ventus's heart is trapped, though I think it's confirmed that it's elsewhere.

 

Changed it up a little and added some notes.

[Khrulesbbs 574]

Very good theories very well though out great job

[ssceles 134]

-Organization members' "people" death are explained/how they became nobodies in this game

-I think Terranort took them out.

 

Indeed. Not just anyone has a Nobody. He did something in particular to each of them, I'm sure. But just where did he recruit 9 through 12? I do hope that finally gets answered... Why was the Organization made in the first place? Could he really not stand being alone? That's unlike him... and Nobodies in general. Maybe he had experiments he wanted to do on each of them, that's why he collected a certain amount of people.

 

-Xehanort may come back in the dream world, and they fight him there, only to release him into the real world

-There may be a time limit for how long you can stay in the dream.

-Dreams may be where Ventus's heart is trapped, though I think it's confirmed that it's elsewhere.

 

Definitely. Did "Birth by Sleep" make any sense as the title of the last game? No. And yet hasn't this been a constant theme? "Is any of this for real... or not?" Xemnas' search for the Room of Awakening, Ventus' semi-permanent slumber until he can be restored... and now a game that actually takes place in the dream world? Who is it being born (again) from sleep and the dreams, nay, nightmares, of others? Xehanort, of course. Makes perfect sense to me. I was quite stunned with that connection when I realized it myself.... "We're all in dream land now... birth... by... sleep... wait... who would be born from........ OH. CRAP."

 

There seems to be a time limit in place for how long you can play as each character. It could be based on how much energy you waste during battles or... be plot determined? Who knows yet, but it's actually quite confirmed. There's also the concept of... what happens if you die in your dreams? What happens if you miss your window and you can't wake up? ...then you'll just... never wake up. D:

 

Ven does seem to be a perma-nap mode, like I said. Dream land would be a good place to find him, I definitely agree. Do they have any idea what they're supposed to do once they actually find him? Probably not, but as always, they will wing it and everything will be just dandy.

 

....and I didn't really have a lot to say towards your other points.

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

Indeed. Not just anyone has a Nobody. He did something in particular to each of them, I'm sure. But just where did he recruit 9 through 12? I do hope that finally gets answered... Why was the Organization made in the first place? Could he really not stand being alone? That's unlike him... and Nobodies in general. Maybe he had experiments he wanted to do on each of them, that's why he collected a certain amount of people.

 

 

the 1st 6 were ansom the wise's apprentices so terranort would have known some of them? right? like he knew braig he was number 2 i do think he did kill all of them like the last trailer where it showed xehanort stab braig with a keyblade

[keystrike 145]

Just to clarify a couple of things...

Indeed. Not just anyone has a Nobody. He did something in particular to each of them, I'm sure. But just where did he recruit 9 through 12? I do hope that finally gets answered... Why was the Organization made in the first place? Could he really not stand being alone? That's unlike him... and Nobodies in general. Maybe he had experiments he wanted to do on each of them, that's why he collected a certain amount of people.

Xemnas needed the organization to complete Kingdom Hearts. As evident in Days, everybody (especially the first six) contributes to his goal. Of course, it really didn't have anything to do with helping the members getting their hearts back and it was entirely one of Xemnas/Xehanorts machinations, but that makes sense.

 

Definitely. Did "Birth by Sleep" make any sense as the title of the last game? No . And yet hasn't this been a constant theme? "Is any of this for real... or not?" Xemnas' search for the Room of Awakening, Ventus' semi-permanent slumber until he can be restored... and now a game that actually takes place in the dream world? Who is it being born (again) from sleep and the dreams, nay, nightmares, of others? Xehanort, of course. Makes perfect sense to me. I was quite stunned with that connection when I realized it myself.... "We're all in dream land now... birth... by... sleep... wait... who would be born from........ OH. CRAP."

One of the major themes of BBS was a second chance. All of the main characters fell "asleep" per se and need to wake from their torment. No doubt the titles are related, but I wouldn't say that the title Birth By Sleep had no meaning by the game itself.

 

There seems to be a time limit in place for how long you can play as each character. It could be based on how much energy you waste during battles or... be plot determined? Who knows yet, but it's actually quite confirmed. There's also the concept of... what happens if you die in your dreams? What happens if you miss your window and you can't wake up? ...then you'll just... never wake up. D:

I recall reading a report on the demo talking about how its related to the drop gauge just running out. Hmm, that is an interesting concept. Extremely interesting actually.

 

Ven does seem to be a perma-nap mode, like I said. Dream land would be a good place to find him, I definitely agree. Do they have any idea what they're supposed to do once they actually find him? Probably not, but as always, they will wing it and everything will be just dandy.

 

I don't think Ven's heart ever left Sora's body nor do I think that Ven's body ever left Castle Oblivion, but based on the trailer, I wouldn't be at all surprised with some plot twist pertaining to dreams.

[ssceles 134]

the 1st 6 were ansom the wise's apprentices so terranort would have known some of them? right? like he knew braig he was number 2 i do think he did kill all of them like the last trailer where it showed xehanort stab braig with a keyblade

 

Yeah, that's right. I'm glad they're finally getting around to showing that arc of the storyline... no one really knew for sure quite how things went down, and there have been fan speculations forever. It'll be interesting to see just how accurate some of them are. Does he go insane?

Xemnas needed the organization to complete Kingdom Hearts. As evident in Days, everybody (especially the first six) contributes to his goal. Of course, it really didn't have anything to do with helping the members getting their hearts back and it was entirely one of Xemnas/Xehanorts machinations, but that makes sense.

 

(First, will say, yeah, Birth by Sleep made sense as a title... only in retrospect. However... they all went to sleep. And no one was born from it. They all just kind of, metaphorically speaking, 'died', although none of them truly died and they should all be alright... I hope. o-O But no one was born, that's all I was getting at.)

Ahhhhhmm... yes, there is all of 358/2 Days, but... only the Keyblade itself could release the hearts. The only weapon that can kill the Heartless and retrieve the hearts was the Keyblade, so all the other members were kind of useless towards Xemnas' goals, I thought...? (Other than, of course, members like Vexen, who actually had some talent in the science department.)

[Kinode 3,056]

I´m still utterly confused by this._.

Yet it all makes sense.But How does this connect to Days and BBS,exactly? How does Maleficent know of Sora´s data? Whydid xehanort return as his YOUNG form? Also,Ansemhas a sword.A FREAKING SWORD. SWORDS CAN CUT.

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

Yeah, that's right. I'm glad they're finally getting around to showing that arc of the storyline... no one really knew for sure quite how things went down, and there have been fan speculations forever. It'll be interesting to see just how accurate some of them are. Does he go insane? (First, will say, yeah, Birth by Sleep made sense as a title... only in retrospect. However... they all went to sleep. And no one was born from it. They all just kind of, metaphorically speaking, 'died', although none of them truly died and they should all be alright... I hope. o-O But no one was born, that's all I was getting at.)

Ahhhhhmm... yes, there is all of 358/2 Days, but... only the Keyblade itself could release the hearts. The only weapon that can kill the Heartless and retrieve the hearts was the Keyblade, so all the other members were kind of useless towards Xemnas' goals, I thought...? (Other than, of course, members like Vexen, who actually had some talent in the science department.)

 

sora was born by sleep

[Papou* 1]

What does Malificent means by "the data"?

[Niosai 0]

I dunno if this is considered related, but a lot of them open with someone waking up... Maybe the Dive to the Heart is also in this dream world? But at the same time, I think the trailer said heartless were unable to go there...

[Niosai 0]

I'd rather double post than make an entirely new thread. So here I am. Bringing it back up.

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

 

-Some worlds may be caught inside a dream world and can only be "released" if Sora/Riku seal the keyholes in their sleep.

-This may be part of the exam (It was already said, something along the lines of "Some worlds are trapped"...or something.)

 

 

ok we know the worlds are sleeping and they need to be released but what i donot understand is why both of them, one by one, have to go to the same world and seal/open it?

[syrupforthejester 14]

ok we know the worlds are sleeping and they need to be released but what i donot understand is why both of them, one by one, have to go to the same world and seal/open it?

 

Sora AND Riku both need to become Masters, right? So they both need to go seal/unlock the worlds for the MoM Exam. That's why, isn't it? o.O

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

Sora AND Riku both need to become Masters, right? So they both need to go seal/unlock the worlds for the MoM Exam. That's why, isn't it? o.O

 

but can they seal a world twice? Oo'

maybe i am the only one whos confused about this lol

[syrupforthejester 14]

but can they seal a world twice? Oo'

maybe i am the only one whos confused about this lol

 

Nah, I'm confused too Maybe Sora will seal one world then Riku will show up and they'll be all, "Nope, already sealed," and then maybe Riku will get all emotional like, "Sora...where are you?" or not But I was thinking that the MoM Exam would be cut short cuz of that hooded guy with the red eyes.

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

Nah, I'm confused too Maybe Sora will seal one world then Riku will show up and they'll be all, "Nope, already sealed," and then maybe Riku will get all emotional like, "Sora...where are you?" or not But I was thinking that the MoM Exam would be cut short cuz of that hooded guy with the red eyes.

 

nice theory i like the emotional riku!!

hmm ... maybe each of the both need to seal the world one time and then the world will be released Oo ?

i donot know why but i was thinking one of them (or both) won't be able to complete the exam ...

[syrupforthejester 14]

nice theory i like the emotional riku!!

hmm ... maybe each of the both need to seal the world one time and then the world will be released Oo ?

i donot know why but i was thinking one of them (or both) won't be able to complete the exam ...

 

hmmm.... maybe they each partially seal a world. riku seals one part, sora seals another?

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

hmmm.... maybe they each partially seal a world. riku seals one part, sora seals another?

 

exactly what i thought! each of them have one path therefore maybe each one is needed to release the world?

but yeah we have to wait for the game .. (QQ)

 

 

i want the game so badly ... 33 days!!

[syrupforthejester 14]

exactly what i thought! each of them have one path therefore maybe each one is needed to release the world?

but yeah we have to wait for the game .. (QQ)

 

 

i want the game so badly ... 33 days!!

 

i already know i'm gonna ruin the whole game for myself and just watch the japanese cutscenes

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

i already know i'm gonna ruin the whole game for myself and just watch the japanese cutscenes

 

i am so happy i learned japanese so that i am able to play it but KH is not the easiest game to understand even if you speak it fluently (..)

i would not be able to wait for the EU release

[woolfman1994 19]

I´m still utterly confused by this._.

Yet it all makes sense.But How does this connect to Days and BBS,exactly? How does Maleficent know of Sora´s data? Whydid xehanort return as his YOUNG form? Also,Ansemhas a sword.A FREAKING SWORD. SWORDS CAN CUT.

 

Maleficient is demanding mickey to hand over the data worlds Mickey has. I dont see how she would know about soras situation unless MF told her..

Anyway other villians had sords and both Sora and Riku bested them, Ive seen more intimitating weapons used.

[syrupforthejester 14]

i am so happy i learned japanese so that i am able to play it but KH is not the easiest game to understand even if you speak it fluently (..)

i would not be able to wait for the EU release

 

i would LOVE to learn japanese! but i DO prefer the voices in the english version much better it's just not the same if it's not HJO

[Pavlovic Sarah 24]

i would LOVE to learn japanese! but i DO prefer the voices in the english version much better it's just not the same if it's not HJO

 

HAHAHA i think it is just because you are used to it because i would cry if i have to play the game in another language then japanese ^_-

from the very beginning i played the japanese version so i am so used to the japanese voices all the other languages sound just weird to me （●＾ー＾●）

[syrupforthejester 14]

HAHAHA i think it is just because you are used to it because i would cry if i have to play the game in another language then japanese ^_-

from the very beginning i played the japanese version so i am so used to the japanese voices all the other languages sound just weird to me （●＾ー＾●）

 

oh my glob! that is so weird http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png i am the EXACT opposite. i started KH (the first one) in Japanese and had my friend translate it for me but i just couldn't stand it so i stuck with the englih version

[Kinode 3,056]

Maleficient is demanding mickey to hand over the data worlds Mickey has. I dont see how she would know about soras situation unless MF told her..

Anyway other villians had sords and both Sora and Riku bested them, Ive seen more intimitating weapons used.

 

Kinode, on 20 December 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

20 December 2011 - 10:52 AM, said

20 December 2011