KH3D Possibly Forgotten Topics?

[Mysterious_Figure_Vanitas 3]

Haven't been on here for a while, but I'm hooked again, due to the 3D news that fell down like a ton of bricks. lol

 

I love everything I've seen so far (even after looking past the Dream Eater sidekicks--they grow on you). This game has a lot going for it, and it can possibly trump BBS. The very storyline seems awesome, and thinking about the ending twist is driving me nuts...

 

Anyway--to my intended topic. Three things that have been bugging me.

 

1. The data Ansem the Wise put into Sora might have little, or everything to do with this game. It might even be what Sora "unlocks" after finding this Keyhole of Sleep. If Sora's in his mind, or the dream world, it's possible that Ansem hid the data in some kind of mental area. It could be the way to defeat Xehanort, since Ansem was a scientist, and studies these kinds of things as failsafes.

 

2. So far, I haven't seen any reason to expect the Mysterious Figure to show up, but (he?) could show up in some crazy fashion. I've been thinging more about the Mysterious Figure, since I saw Xehanort attack Braig in the 3D trailer. Either Terra is in control, or this is a flashback and Xehanort is forcefully changing his comrades into Heartless' and Nobodies...if that's possible. nobody truly knows what happened on the day of the "split," and anything could of happened, since we have such fuzzy knowledge of the change. If Terra actually did gain control, Xehanort's fate would be confusing. His older body disappeared, so I'm lost on that subject. The Mysterious Figure could possibly be the remains of Xehanort's body, or even a protective shell for his heart, since Xemnas acted similar to the Mysterious Figure in KHI Final Mix. But, this is just a theory.

 

3. When Xehanort revealed his Keyblade at the end of the trailer, it shocked the crap out of me. I thought that something caused him to lose his memory of using the Keyblade. If that scene was a new scene, or a flashback, it makes things weird. If it was a flashback, that would mean that he could of used it in either KHI, or KHII. If it's a new scene, what if Terra can use Xehanort's Keyblade?

 

Thoughts?

[Keyblade King 12 486]

I wouldn't call these forgotten topics, especially the first one and third one.

 

1) That's basically what most people have come to the conclusion of. In this world of sleep, Sora and Riku will probably unlock the secrets that are within them, so any memories that they've forgotten or the data that Ansem put in Sora will probably be seen in this game.

2) God, I hope not. It would be so random just to see him. I guess I could settle for him being the secret boss again, but I hope he's not apart of the plot.

3) That's a flashback. And it seems that some of Xehanort's memories returned to him at least at this point in time. Terra could possibly wield MX's Keyblade, I suppose. But I don't think he would want to. It would bring back bad memories.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

"Forgotten but not lost."

[Oishii 3,987]

"Forgotten but not lost."

 

If it's not lost, then why do they have to go looking for it?

[Kishira 2,854]

 

If it's not lost, then why do they have to go looking for it?

 

...............Good question. @w@

[TerraRedeemed 255]

If it's not lost, then why do they have to go looking for it?

 

"it" refers to wut?

[Oishii 3,987]

 

"it" refers to wut?

 

The memories I suppose.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

The memories I suppose.

 

they dont, and they never do which is why mickey has to relay the message at the end of coded.

[Obi-wan 411]

Unknown could be Terra somehow I don't know that's why it's call Unknown though.

[spenskh89 66]

Haven't been on here for a while, but I'm hooked again, due to the 3D news that fell down like a ton of bricks. lol

 

I love everything I've seen so far (even after looking past the Dream Eater sidekicks--they grow on you). This game has a lot going for it, and it can possibly trump BBS. The very storyline seems awesome, and thinking about the ending twist is driving me nuts...

 

Anyway--to my intended topic. Three things that have been bugging me.

 

1. The data Ansem the Wise put into Sora might have little, or everything to do with this game. It might even be what Sora "unlocks" after finding this Keyhole of Sleep. If Sora's in his mind, or the dream world, it's possible that Ansem hid the data in some kind of mental area. It could be the way to defeat Xehanort, since Ansem was a scientist, and studies these kinds of things as failsafes.

 

2. So far, I haven't seen any reason to expect the Mysterious Figure to show up, but (he?) could show up in some crazy fashion. I've been thinging more about the Mysterious Figure, since I saw Xehanort attack Braig in the 3D trailer. Either Terra is in control, or this is a flashback and Xehanort is forcefully changing his comrades into Heartless' and Nobodies...if that's possible. nobody truly knows what happened on the day of the "split," and anything could of happened, since we have such fuzzy knowledge of the change. If Terra actually did gain control, Xehanort's fate would be confusing. His older body disappeared, so I'm lost on that subject. The Mysterious Figure could possibly be the remains of Xehanort's body, or even a protective shell for his heart, since Xemnas acted similar to the Mysterious Figure in KHI Final Mix. But, this is just a theory.

 

3. When Xehanort revealed his Keyblade at the end of the trailer, it shocked the crap out of me. I thought that something caused him to lose his memory of using the Keyblade. If that scene was a new scene, or a flashback, it makes things weird. If it was a flashback, that would mean that he could of used it in either KHI, or KHII. If it's a new scene, what if Terra can use Xehanort's Keyblade?

 

Thoughts?

 

Dude I thought all of this!

[Vorian_Rob 49]

The scene at the end of the trailer takes place before KH1. Just before Radiant Garden fell. Ansem and Xehanort had been researching the Darkness when an accident in the lab created the first of the heartless. I have a theory that I have been meaning to express for a while and just havent had the motivation to write it out.

 

If they are strong enough, when a person falls to darkness their being is split into 3 parts. The Heart, the Body, and the Mind. Respectively:

Heart -> Heartless

Body -> Nobody

Mind -> Lingering Sentiment (An advanced form of an Unversed)

 

Ansem had taken Xehanort as his apprentice and they researched the darkness together. When one of their experiments cause the creation of the first Heartless, they poured themselves even deeper into their research. Xehanort saw this as an opportunity, He believed that if the peices could be split, then they could most likely be rejoined by way of the keyblade. If he could manage to split himself, he could rid himself of Terra's Heart. Then all he would have to do is gather himself back together and he would have complete control of his new form. He knew that at least Terra had passed on his Keyblade to another weilder. If he could coerce that weilder into defeating his three parts they would rejoin once again free of Terra.

What we most likely just saw in the trailer was Xehanort's experiments on "more powerful" people. He had to be sure that he could maintain his awareness when he was split. So he used his lab assistants as guinea pigs. These people eventually became the innermost members of the Organization. Whether he did it himself or he was struck down by one of the heartless he had created, I dont know, but I am sure we will find out soon enough.

Xehanort's being was split. The Heartless it created banished Ansem the wise from the world and took up his identity as his own as a kick in the face to his old Master. The new "Ansem" plunged Radiant Garden into darkness which in turn began the heartless plague that began devouring worlds. The few stronger residents eventually became the remaining members of the Organization.

Xehanort's plan had been set in motion. He no longer had control of his split self, but he knew that sooner or later "Terra's Protege' " would come in keyblade in hand to defeat the cause of the darkness. He found the boy, seeped him in darkness in an attempt to make him into his puppet. But then another appeared, Sora.

Sora played his part beautifully, He struck down Ansem without a second thought. The first piece. The Heart.

But Xehanort wasn't done. The Organization proceeded to provoke "The Keyblade's Chosen" once more. And of course, like the blockheaded puppet that he is, Sora raced off to "destroy the darkness" once more. Sora and Riku destroyed the Organization one by one, barrelling their way towards Xemnas. Xemnas had already captured his "Sentiment" and strapped him to a throne on the head of the Twilight Dragon. Sora and Riku struck down NoHeart without even knowing what it was. The second part. The Mind.

Eventually they confronted Xemnas and destroyed him as well. The Third piece returned to the Whole. The Body. Master Xehanort would return. Frankly the depth of of his planning is astounding.

So now Master Xehanort has returned, and free of the constraints that held him back (Terra). Yen Sid has noticed the return of his old colleague and has called Sora and Riku for proper instruction in the use of a keyblade, because as they are, they can not defeat Xehanort. Which brings us to Dream Drop Distance.

[Vorian_Rob 49]

I just reposted that as a separate topic

[Mysterious_Figure_Vanitas 3]

The scene at the end of the trailer takes place before KH1. Just before Radiant Garden fell. Ansem and Xehanort had been researching the Darkness when an accident in the lab created the first of the heartless. I have a theory that I have been meaning to express for a while and just havent had the motivation to write it out.

 

If they are strong enough, when a person falls to darkness their being is split into 3 parts. The Heart, the Body, and the Mind. Respectively:

Heart -> Heartless

Body -> Nobody

Mind -> Lingering Sentiment (An advanced form of an Unversed)

 

Ansem had taken Xehanort as his apprentice and they researched the darkness together. When one of their experiments cause the creation of the first Heartless, they poured themselves even deeper into their research. Xehanort saw this as an opportunity, He believed that if the peices could be split, then they could most likely be rejoined by way of the keyblade. If he could manage to split himself, he could rid himself of Terra's Heart. Then all he would have to do is gather himself back together and he would have complete control of his new form. He knew that at least Terra had passed on his Keyblade to another weilder. If he could coerce that weilder into defeating his three parts they would rejoin once again free of Terra.

What we most likely just saw in the trailer was Xehanort's experiments on "more powerful" people. He had to be sure that he could maintain his awareness when he was split. So he used his lab assistants as guinea pigs. These people eventually became the innermost members of the Organization. Whether he did it himself or he was struck down by one of the heartless he had created, I dont know, but I am sure we will find out soon enough.

Xehanort's being was split. The Heartless it created banished Ansem the wise from the world and took up his identity as his own as a kick in the face to his old Master. The new "Ansem" plunged Radiant Garden into darkness which in turn began the heartless plague that began devouring worlds. The few stronger residents eventually became the remaining members of the Organization.

Xehanort's plan had been set in motion. He no longer had control of his split self, but he knew that sooner or later "Terra's Protege' " would come in keyblade in hand to defeat the cause of the darkness. He found the boy, seeped him in darkness in an attempt to make him into his puppet. But then another appeared, Sora.

Sora played his part beautifully, He struck down Ansem without a second thought. The first piece. The Heart.

But Xehanort wasn't done. The Organization proceeded to provoke "The Keyblade's Chosen" once more. And of course, like the blockheaded puppet that he is, Sora raced off to "destroy the darkness" once more. Sora and Riku destroyed the Organization one by one, barrelling their way towards Xemnas. Xemnas had already captured his "Sentiment" and strapped him to a throne on the head of the Twilight Dragon. Sora and Riku struck down NoHeart without even knowing what it was. The second part. The Mind.

Eventually they confronted Xemnas and destroyed him as well. The Third piece returned to the Whole. The Body. Master Xehanort would return. Frankly the depth of of his planning is astounding.

So now Master Xehanort has returned, and free of the constraints that held him back (Terra). Yen Sid has noticed the return of his old colleague and has called Sora and Riku for proper instruction in the use of a keyblade, because as they are, they can not defeat Xehanort. Which brings us to Dream Drop Distance.

I really like this theory. And it's actually brilliant. If No Heart was forced onto the throne of the Twilight Dragon, then why did No Heart fight Sora and Riku? Do you think he was forced? And for that matter, if Terra was thrown out of his own body, what would become of him?

 

I used to think that Xehanort split himself apart, so that the power acquired by the pieces would return to the whole, making Xehanort even stronger than in BBS. I just don't understand how Xehanort got his memory back enough to use his Keyblade, and why he forgot again in the first two Kingdom Hearts games.

[Vorian_Rob 49]

I really like this theory. And it's actually brilliant. If No Heart was forced onto the throne of the Twilight Dragon, then why did No Heart fight Sora and Riku? Do you think he was forced? And for that matter, if Terra was thrown out of his own body, what would become of him?

 

I used to think that Xehanort split himself apart, so that the power acquired by the pieces would return to the whole, making Xehanort even stronger than in BBS. I just don't understand how Xehanort got his memory back enough to use his Keyblade, and why he forgot again in the first two Kingdom Hearts games.

 

The theory has a new home. I'll copy your question and answer it there.