The Unpopular Opinions Thread

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/18/2013 at 11:27 PM, Shana09 said:

I don't see the point of having sem-automatic weapons. Really a handgun would be enough but having a semi-automatic makes no sense, it would be no great use here. 

Handguns can be less accurate in some cases, and have a more limited range. Some don't have an accurate range of further than ten feet (we have one that's this bad). Semi-automatic weapons are also more fun to shoot imo. I like shooting my 1911 (handgun) but I prefer shooting my AR15. It's just more fun--kind of like watching Dora or the Hobbit. One is much better. 

[Shana09 5,769]

  On 1/18/2013 at 11:37 PM, Think Pink said:

Handguns can be less accurate in some cases, and have a more limited range. Some don't have an accurate range of further than ten feet (we have one that's this bad). Semi-automatic weapons are also more fun to shoot imo. I like shooting my 1911 (handgun) but I prefer shooting my AR15. It's just more fun--kind of like watching Dora or the Hobbit. One is much better. 

 

 

I guess it's more fun, I really don't think we need any semi-automatic weapons at all other than for your source of entertainment. It's just for safe precautionary reasons. Hand guns I am completely fine about. 

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/18/2013 at 11:51 PM, Shana09 said:

I guess it's more fun, I really don't think we need any semi-automatic weapons at all other than for your source of entertainment. It's just for safe precautionary reasons. Hand guns I am completely fine about. 

Well personally I think they're a good training tool. Marines carry the M16A4, and that's a gun you need some practice using, because if you've got it all tricked out, it is REALLY heavy. You're only going to get a week at Parris Island devoted to shooting, and that's not enough. I've been training for years, so in the end, I'm going to be a more efficient soldier than others who show up like "what is this thing". I could make more points but I'm going to shut up because I love my guns and that's good enough for me 8D alsocompetitionsarereallyfun

 

On a completely unrelated point, I was watching Dr. Phil today and they were talking about slut shaming. I can't even BELIEVE that anyone could justify tearing down other people to the point that they commit suicide. If it doesn't float your boat? Fine. But don't ruin someone else's life. It's a control gimmick--women should be allowed to wear WHATEVER THEY WANT. END OF STORY. Because people seem to congratulate men for doing the same thing, then shame women to the point of suicide. We really can't allow this guys.

[Koko 3,944]

  On 1/19/2013 at 12:06 AM, Think Pink said:

On a completely unrelated point, I was watching Dr. Phil today and they were talking about slut shaming. I can't even BELIEVE that anyone could justify tearing down other people to the point that they commit suicide. If it doesn't float your boat? Fine. But don't ruin someone else's life. It's a control gimmick--women should be allowed to wear WHATEVER THEY WANT. END OF STORY. Because people seem to congratulate men for doing the same thing, then shame women to the point of suicide. We really can't allow this guys.

 

it's sad to think that in this society, women are shamed no matter what they do. if they don't have sex, they're a prude, if they cover up, they're a prude, if they have sex they're a slut, if they show skin, they're a slut, if they don't wear make up or care about what they wear, they're lazy, if they wear make up and plan their outfits, they're a fake whore, ect.

and this is one of the reasons im a feminist

Edited January 19, 2013 by Koko

[Shana09 5,769]

  On 1/19/2013 at 12:31 AM, Koko said:

it's sad to think that in this society, women are shamed no matter what they do. if they don't have sex, they're a prude, if they cover up, they're a prude, if they have sex they're a slut, if they show skin, they're a slut, if they don't wear make up or care about what they wear, they're lazy, if they wear make up and plan their outfits, they're a fake whore, ect.

and this is one of the reasons im a feminist

 

To be honest I hear all sorts of stuff like this outside in the world....but this never happens where I live. And if it does it rarely happens, it only happened once but then it ended like in a week or 2 because everyone went on with their lives. Also all the guys don't call the person a slut they actually don't care that much, and the girls don't care either.

 

In other words, my society here is extremely different or not as excessive. 

[Wisdomform 221]

  On 1/19/2013 at 12:31 AM, Koko said:

it's sad to think that in this society, women are shamed no matter what they do. if they don't have sex, they're a prude, if they cover up, they're a prude, if they have sex they're a slut, if they show skin, they're a slut, if they don't wear make up or care about what they wear, they're lazy, if they wear make up and plan their outfits, they're a fake whore, ect.

and this is one of the reasons im a feminist

 

I agree with you.

 

We live in such a male world...that men aren't judge or shamed on how they act. It's always women.

 

I think it is wrong to judge a woman based on how she dresses or acts. It's really none of anyones business.

Edited January 19, 2013 by wisdomform

[SinHeartlessAngel 555]

I don't know if this counts as an "unpopular" opinion. but I prefer feminine guys and masculine girls. 

[Dracozombie 4,554]

  On 1/19/2013 at 12:48 AM, wisdomform said:

I agree with you.

 

We live in such a male world...that men aren't judge or shamed on how they act. It's always women.

 

I think it is wrong to judge a woman based on how she dresses or acts. It's really none of anyones business.

 

We definitely live in a male world, but that means men are under as much scrutiny as women, just in different ways.  If they're "supposed" to be running things, then that means all responsibility is ultimately on them.  They're the breadwinners, regardless of their capabilities and talents; they make the first move, regardless if they're shy; they need to be suave and bed any women they choose, and they're losers if they've never had sex--and god help them if they're gay and surrounded by intolerant people; they're supposed to be "manly" based on society's version of what it means, regardless of if they even want to conform to the standards--it's where men are seen as gay or pathetic for liking My Little Pony, even if they're electrical engineers who work out daily, weld metal, fence, and drink (yeah, my bro would drag someone on the pavement if they called him a pussy on the grounds of him being a Brony).  Men aren't judged or shamed for how they act?  As someone who mostly hangs with guys, I can say that is total BS.  Men may be given more entitlement in some areas, but the standards they're held to can be just as stupid and illogical as what we're held to.  Just sayin'.

[Wisdomform 221]

  On 1/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, Dracozombie said:

We definitely live in a male world, but that means men are under as much scrutiny as women, just in different ways.  If they're "supposed" to be running things, then that means all responsibility is ultimately on them.  They're the breadwinners, regardless of their capabilities and talents; they make the first move, regardless if they're shy; they need to be suave and bed any women they choose, and they're losers if they've never had sex--and god help them if they're gay and surrounded by intolerant people; they're supposed to be "manly" based on society's version of what it means, regardless of if they even want to conform to the standards--it's where men are seen as gay or pathetic for liking My Little Pony, even if they're electrical engineers who work out daily, weld metal, fence, and drink (yeah, my bro would drag someone on the pavement if they called him a pussy on the grounds of him being a Brony).  Men aren't judged or shamed for how they act?  As someone who mostly hangs with guys, I can say that is total BS.  Men may be given more entitlement in some areas, but the standards they're held to can be just as stupid and illogical as what we're held to.  Just sayin'.

 

Yes you are right men are under as much scrutiny as women...what I meant is that it seems like it is always just woman.

I'm not going to say anything else...i'm at least wise enough to know that you are right and my statement was not completely right. I don't wanna start a great debate or anything. 

 

I'm not going to post in this topic anymore

[Cyber Shaman 990]

-This thread is about ones opinions, not about a debate on whether or not the opinion is right.

We all are entitled on our own opinions, you have the right not to like it but you must respect it.

Correcting ones opinion is almost as bad.

 

This statement is my opinion on how this forum should run by.

 

Another opinion:

-this thread should be pinned.

Edited January 19, 2013 by K3YBL4D3 KHIGHT

[bit 944]

its hard to pronounce the webmasters last name

[Shera Wizard 2,736]

  On 1/19/2013 at 5:49 AM, BitTripNano said:

its hard to pronounce the webmasters last name

 

Y'know, I'm not going Random on this thread, but I kinda agree ._.

[Dracozombie 4,554]

  On 1/19/2013 at 4:40 AM, wisdomform said:

Yes you are right men are under as much scrutiny as women...what I meant is that it seems like it is always just woman.

I'm not going to say anything else...i'm at least wise enough to know that you are right and my statement was not completely right. I don't wanna start a great debate or anything. 

 

I'm not going to post in this topic anymore

 

Maybe it seems like it's only women who're scrutinized because they're usually treated as objects, so what men go through isn't always obvious.  When you hang out almost exclusively with guys, you tend to pick up on these sorts of things.  Whaaaat?  You can keep posting here!  This is the unofficial venting thread!

[Koko 3,944]

  On 1/19/2013 at 3:52 AM, Dracozombie said:

We definitely live in a male world, but that means men are under as much scrutiny as women, just in different ways.  If they're "supposed" to be running things, then that means all responsibility is ultimately on them.  They're the breadwinners, regardless of their capabilities and talents; they make the first move, regardless if they're shy; they need to be suave and bed any women they choose, and they're losers if they've never had sex--and god help them if they're gay and surrounded by intolerant people; they're supposed to be "manly" based on society's version of what it means, regardless of if they even want to conform to the standards--it's where men are seen as gay or pathetic for liking My Little Pony, even if they're electrical engineers who work out daily, weld metal, fence, and drink (yeah, my bro would drag someone on the pavement if they called him a pussy on the grounds of him being a Brony).  Men aren't judged or shamed for how they act?  As someone who mostly hangs with guys, I can say that is total BS.  Men may be given more entitlement in some areas, but the standards they're held to can be just as stupid and illogical as what we're held to.  Just sayin'.

 

I must say, while what you say is true, this all comes back to oppression of women. Men are often scrutinized for being FEMININE, whether it be appearance, their role in the house, their sexual preference, or their interests. Men are never shamed for being masculine, but they are shamed for being feminine which is linked to women which means 'weak'. If they aren't taking charge, they're a pussy (which is a slur used to shame ciswomen for their biology), if they're gay then they're a pussy too because they're not asserting their dominance over a woman like they should, they're letting another man do it, and hell when it comes to sex, if they don't have it, it isn't looked down as much because they can spout "I'm waiting for the right girl" and that's acceptable (but god forbid a woman says no). If they like typically feminine things, they are shamed because those things are feminine and being feminine is WRONG. That is what society teaches. It is shameful to be a woman or like a woman. It is never shameful to be a man. Which is why I think it's hilarious when men cry about oppression because in the end, most of the instances of male 'oppression' comes back to the 'wrongness' of being a woman.

[Geralt 4,874]

Modern day cars are shitty looking honestly, well they look alright, kinda cool but >:I Old cars from like the 40's are sexy e.e

[TheApprenticeofKingMickey 3,689]

Despite liking the same genre of music, I think the K-Pop fandom is seriously one of the worst fandoms I've had to encounter.

[Think Pink 1,967]

Writers, artists, etc. are a waste 

 

A pretty painting? How does that do anything for the world at all? It does nothing to advance society or even matters. They were pointless in the end. Maybe ones who chronicled history or science or something are different, but writers like Stephanie Meyer or Suzanne Collins or Shakespeare? All they're doing is a circus act--entertaining people instead of making any real contribution to the world. 

 

gonna be flamed to death now

but really 

how did they do anything? 

I'm not saying it's wrong to become any of those things if it makes you happy, but it's not like Einstein or Charlemagne or anything.

[Protoman 1,974]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:01 AM, Think Pink said:

Writers, artists, etc. are a waste 

 

A pretty painting? How does that do anything for the world at all? It does nothing to advance society or even matters. They were pointless in the end. Maybe ones who chronicled history or science or something are different, but writers like Stephanie Meyer or Suzanne Collins or Shakespeare? All they're doing is a circus act--entertaining people instead of making any real contribution to the world. 

 

gonna be flamed to death now

but really 

how did they do anything? 

I'm not saying it's wrong to become any of those things if it makes you happy, but it's not like Einstein or Charlemagne or anything.

then why do you write so many stories

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:04 AM, Protoman said:

then why do you write so many stories

for fun, because I can't go experiment in science labs right now or anything

it's a habit I'm going to quit as soon as I'm able to get out of my house and actually do something for the world

[Shana09 5,769]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:01 AM, Think Pink said:

Writers, artists, etc. are a waste 

 

A pretty painting? How does that do anything for the world at all? It does nothing to advance society or even matters. They were pointless in the end. Maybe ones who chronicled history or science or something are different, but writers like Stephanie Meyer or Suzanne Collins or Shakespeare? All they're doing is a circus act--entertaining people instead of making any real contribution to the world. 

 

gonna be flamed to death now

but really 

how did they do anything? 

I'm not saying it's wrong to become any of those things if it makes you happy, but it's not like Einstein or Charlemagne or anything.

 

 

The point to art and literature in the past is that it had an impact on culture. Same goes for music, movies and much more. It's still happening till this day, it is one of the major factors of culture. 

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:11 AM, Shana09 said:

The point to art and literature in the past is that it had an impact on culture. Same goes for music, movies and much more. It's still happening till this day, it is one of the major factors of culture. 

I kind of feel like the culture of it doesn't even matter. Culture often just reinforces stereotypes that hurt--for instance, women in middle eastern countries are treated as second class citizens, because that's their culture. Maybe the world would be a better place if we all evolved into one sort of cultureless culture and we all worked toward getting rid of culture in general. I know that sounds ignorant, but think about it. Culture is basically a set of unwritten rules for how people are to act and how the world is perceived, and how that perception should be dealt with. How, in an imperfect world such as this one, can that ever be good? 

[Protoman 1,974]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:05 AM, Think Pink said:

for fun, because I can't go experiment in science labs right now or anything

it's a habit I'm going to quit as soon as I'm able to get out of my house and actually do something for the world

look around at the house you live in, the furniture you sit in, and the clothes you are wearing

this is all due to the influence of art, design, and architecture that lets us live with more than just the bare minimum.

written word and art has also developed very distinctive cultures and ways of living that is very important for the history and study of the human lifestyle

creativity is one of the things that put humans on a higher level from animals, and is a key factor for even today's society.  You can see how movies, music, and the media greatly effect the people around you, and it would be very hard to imagine a life without it.

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:17 AM, Protoman said:

look around at the house you live in, the furniture you sit in, and the clothes you are wearing

this is all due to the influence of art, design, and architecture that lets us live with more than just the bare minimum.

written word and art has also developed very distinctive cultures and ways of living that is very important for the history and study of the human lifestyle

creativity is one of the things that put humans on a higher level from animals, and is a key factor for even today's society.  You can see how movies, music, and the media greatly effect the people around you, and it would be very hard to imagine a life without it.

Fair enough. I have more of a do-something-amazing-and-be-remembered-forever kind of mentality, so I tend to see things in a harsher light. We could be a lot more productive and advanced of a world if we didn't, say, focus on how to make clothes prettier and the like. We could be teaching kids to grow up and cure cancer or something. 

[Dracozombie 4,554]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:01 AM, Think Pink said:

Writers, artists, etc. are a waste 

 

A pretty painting? How does that do anything for the world at all? It does nothing to advance society or even matters. They were pointless in the end. Maybe ones who chronicled history or science or something are different, but writers like Stephanie Meyer or Suzanne Collins or Shakespeare? All they're doing is a circus act--entertaining people instead of making any real contribution to the world. 

 

gonna be flamed to death now

but really 

how did they do anything? 

I'm not saying it's wrong to become any of those things if it makes you happy, but it's not like Einstein or Charlemagne or anything.

 

Because not all of us have particular interest in being electrical engineers, doctors, or scientists, useful as those professions are.  They don't have the same practical impact and usage as the above professions, but for a great many people, there's more to the world and living than cold, hard practicality and scientific progress.  Don't undervalue the worth of simple entertainment and making people happy.  Also, the entertainment industry is another business people can opt to join and gain from.  Many people involve themselves with it in the hopes of making money while doing something they're interested in and people spend money because they enjoy what it does for them.  Do you like Kingdom Hearts?  People thought of the story so people like you can enjoy it, and they get money in return while telling the story they have inside them, editors and business notwithstanding.

 

Are things like art and writing and whatnot as useful as curing cancer?  Probably not, but don't write them off as completely worthless solely for the fact it doesn't contribute to the greater good of humanity.  Yes, we'd probably be a lot further if we didn't spend time focusing on things like video games, but it'd be a pretty boring world to live in.  I have an appreciation for the simple things in life just as much as I do progress.  It's debated how useful art applies to humanity collectively, but you're not looking at how it applies at an individual level.  You don't need to give up your writing completely for "better things" like your science.  Your career and your family would of course take priority, but writing things you enjoy shouldn't be considered a "habit" that needs to be broken.

[Think Pink 1,967]

  On 1/20/2013 at 1:33 AM, Dracozombie said:

Because not all of us have particular interest in being electrical engineers, doctors, or scientists, useful as those professions are.  They don't have the same practical impact and usage as the above professions, but for a great many people, there's more to the world and living than cold, hard practicality and scientific progress.  Don't undervalue the worth of simple entertainment and making people happy.  Also, the entertainment industry is another business people can opt to join and gain from.  Many people involve themselves with it in the hopes of making money while doing something they're interested in and people spend money because they enjoy what it does for them.  Do you like Kingdom Hearts?  People thought of the story so people like you can enjoy it, and they get money in return while telling the story they have inside them, editors and business notwithstanding.

 

Are things like art and writing and whatnot as useful as curing cancer?  Probably not, but don't write them off as completely worthless solely for the fact it doesn't contribute to the greater good of humanity.  Yes, we'd probably be a lot further if we didn't spend time focusing on things like video games, but it'd be a pretty boring world to live in.  I have an appreciation for the simple things in life just as much as I do progress.  It's debated how useful art applies to humanity collectively, but you're not looking at how it applies at an individual level.  You don't need to give up your writing completely for "better things" like your science.  Your career and your family would of course take priority, but writing things you enjoy shouldn't be considered a "habit" that needs to be broken.

True enough depending on the person. What I see are countries who raise their children expecting them to do nothing but work, and they end up with minigeniuses who are going to achieve a lot of great things in their lives. Like I said before, I don't mean to say that people shouldn't become those things if it makes them happy, but the world would be a very different place if everyone also did jobs that do things that impact the world. (Not necessarily science--that's just a very easy to apply example. Things like teaching, politics, humanity work, and a million other things are equally good, imo.) Personally I think of it as a bad habit, because it's a time waster (for me, at least). Sure, I'd enjoy a life of sitting back and writing novels a lot more than I'd enjoy one of my bajillion jobs I plan to have, but I guess I really want to go big. As in, my entire life, personally, I feel like I'll be a useless waste if I don't do something amazing that gets me remembered forever or something. Just something big that changes the world (it's also that sort of fantasy everyone has of saving the world).