The Unpopular Opinions Thread

[Nick Sideris 1,551]

The new champion of the League Of Legends is a FAIL . 

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Pretty much. They play a big part in growth. Let's be a bit honest here. "Being comfortable with your body and sexuality" isn't really the only reason someone would strip in public( I doubt it's really even a common reason). There's such a thing as "wanting attention" which is pretty much something everyone has. It's really just about what ways we go about attracting attention.Anyways, if I would ever discourage someone from stripping it's not because I think it'll ultimately lead to the fall of mankind, but I do believe it is possible to attract some seriously unwanted attention( Amanda Todd anybody?) and I sure as hell wouldn't want someone to get caught up in that kind of mess.Are you like not allowed to drop mathematics after the 11th grade in your school? o-o

I think she meant like strippers not publicly stripping haha. I think pole dancers have a lot of talent, it takes skill to do that. And while it's not something I would ever do, I don't care of other people are doing that (especially if it's an easy way for them to earn some cash) Also you can't even legally work as a stripper under the age of 18 in the US. And since drugs has been mentioned earlier, I don't get why people would want to shoot up or take pills, or even take psychedelics knowing the dangers of some of them. I prefer to keep natural, but what those people do is none of my business and I don't care how they choose to live their life. Also, being straight edge doesn't make you a better person than anyone else (not directed towards anyone just throwing it out there)I think companies should be required to label which foods contain GMO's

[Shana09 5,769]

Dear Shana,

 

I happened to come across this message of yours and I agree, it's really not good to overdo anything and I'm glad you brought it up because you may not want to hear this but you're overdoing your abuse towards me (gasp!) and you've become addicted to taking Winner's name in vain. Don't worry about me, I can take it, it's just...well I'd hate for you to go mad when Winner is no longer around for you to use and abuse. So I propose that (due to my nonaddictive personality) I continue mocking you, like always while you remain quiet. As a bonus we might just cure you of this filthy habit.

 

Thanks for reading!

 

Love Winner xxx   (Notice the lack of a comma between love and Winner. That was intentional. You really should love him. He's a very nice bloke)

 

Look Loser there is a difference between abusing and telling facts, and I am doing the latter. 

[Ultima Spark 753]

Telling someone they should be ashamed of themselves over something that doesn't really harm anyone is pretty awful.

 

Are you saying someone should be ashamed of being comfortable with their body and sexuality? If it's not hurting you, who cares? (same goes with getting high) If they're okay with it then why should you care? Someone can do whatever they want with their body. Personally, I don't like when people dye their hair green. I think it's an icky hair color. But that doesn't mean I have any right to tell them "YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR DYING YOUR HAIR GREEN" it's their choice. It's their body. And I am not at all affected by that choice, so I don't have a right to tell them that their green hair is shameful.

 

Unpopular opinions. Why do you feel the need to guilt trip people for this?

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Unpopular opinions. Why do you feel the need to guilt trip people for this?

Maybe because there's a difference between having a legitimate opinion and being inconsiderate. I say good for them for speaking out. Also just so you know, it's been established a while ago that this thread is no longer really about unpopular opinions. Edited February 12, 2014 by Lalalablah

[Ultima Spark 753]

There's a difference between having a legitimate opinion and being inconsiderate. I say good for them for speaking out.Also just so you know, it's been established a while ago that this thread is no longer really about unpopular opinions.

 

I don't appreciate those who try to guilt-trip people for unapologetically having an unpopular opinion, whether it's minor or severe. That's the hallmark of a Tumblr-style "social justice warrior" right there. It's their thoughts, leave them be with it.

 

Ugh, just scrap the thread and start it over, this is turning into a gigantic circlejerk.

[Lalalablah 1,538]

I don't appreciate those who try to guilt-trip people for unapologetically having an unpopular opinion, whether it's minor or severe. That's the hallmark of a Tumblr-style "social justice warrior" right there. It's their thoughts, leave them be with it. Ugh, just scrap the thread and start it over, this is turning into a gigantic circlejerk.

But that's exactly what the original post they were talking about was doing. Guilt tripping people. I have an idea, if you don't like this thread stop coming to it.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

But that's exactly what the original post they were talking about was doing. Guilt tripping people.I have an idea, if you don't like this thread stop coming to it.

This is good advice, right here. 

[Dracozombie 4,554]

I think we're allowed to disapprove of certain practices, and express our wishes that people wouldn't do [X], as long as we don't hold it against the practitioner personally--unless s/he's being really destructive and/or stupid doing what they're doing.

[MyDixieRect 2,061]

Look Loser there is a difference between abusing and telling facts, and I am doing the latter. 

 

 

Saying Winner is a loser = abuse (and just downright lying)

 

Saying Shana--oops, I meant Shanal has sand grains for boobies = telling facts

 

Since you clearly can't tell the difference, I am doing the latter

[Shana09 5,769]

Saying Winner is a loser = abuse (and just downright lying)

 

Saying Shana--oops, I meant Shanal has sand grains for boobies = telling facts

 

Since you clearly can't tell the difference, I am doing the latter

 

My boobies are not mad of sand grains for your information but I'll be making sure your future wife has that case.

 

 

Unpopular opinions. Why do you feel the need to guilt trip people for this?

 

Speaking of differences, there is a difference between guilt tripping people and telling them something, which you are allowed to do in this thread (see the first post for example).

(Event though its obvious what that statement actually meant)

[MyDixieRect 2,061]

My boobies are not mad of sand grains for your information but I'll be making sure your future wife has that case.

 

Dracozombie is too awesome at defending against zombies...or those that look like them (*coughlookinthemirrorcough*) for her to allow you to be anywhere near her boobies. So, I'm not afraid.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Winner's Proof

[Godot 513]

But if the oppressor's hatred breeds the hatred of the oppressed then how does that not show an example of hatred breeding more hatred?

because that's reasonable?? saying that its wrong to hate your oppressors (which is what most people mean when they say that hatred breeds more hate) is gross and not true

 

 

I don't appreciate those who try to guilt-trip people for unapologetically having an unpopular opinion, whether it's minor or severe. That's the hallmark of a Tumblr-style "social justice warrior" right there. It's their thoughts, leave them be with it.

 

Ugh, just scrap the thread and start it over, this is turning into a gigantic circlejerk.

lmao as a """"social justice warrior"""", if your opinion is shitty or harmful then i am sure as hell going to guilt-trip you for it. 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Godot

[Shana09 5,769]

 

because that's reasonable?? saying that its wrong to hate your oppressors (which is what most people mean when they say that hatred breeds more hate) is gross and not true

 

 

 

 

 

I think what Tery was trying to say is that there are some people who actively attack anyone who just disagrees with being gay.

 

For example,

Person A: In my belief, I don't really support gays.

Person B: How dare you not support us?! You homophobic bigot!

 

If Person A actively attacks gays or don't allow them to do the stuff they do, then they are in the wrong. They are oppressing.

But if Person A just doesn't feel comfortable or doesn't support them because of their belief but isn't going to harm them or force them to do anything then they aren't harming anyone, even if the opinion is a unsettling. 

 

However if Person B attacks the person if Person B is actually attacking gays (Verbally or physically) then it is expected to fight back.

But if Person B attacks someone because of their opinion while they don't hurt or say anything bad about them then Person B shouldn't really attack them and remain civil about it.

 

Because, to some people, you are just giving them reasons to hate homosexuals since people do love to generalize sometimes from first impressions or a bad moment. 

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I wish thread would die. It became exactly what it was intended to become. A place where certain people came to

push certain agendas onto the KH13 community. They use apparent nature of thread as a way to prevent people from disputing those opinions. Then when someone disputes that opinion or posts an opossing or contradicting opinion the name calling and arguing proceeds. Everyone is different we all have different views, ideals and moral beliefs. Unless you know the perception of everyone in the world there is no wrong opinion. Good and evil is a matter of perception what applies to you doesnt apply to everyone. People should remember that before they use this thread.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

 

I don't see why bisexuality should be an issue: not naming names or pointing fingers, but I received some bashing recently on me being bi.I don't believe that my sexual prefernce should make me a bad person, and that I deserve hatred for it.That is all.

 

Edited February 13, 2014 by TheTimidLight

[Godot 513]

I think what Tery was trying to say is that there are some people who actively attack anyone who just disagrees with being gay.

 

For example,

Person A: In my belief, I don't really support gays.

Person B: How dare you not support us?! You homophobic bigot!

 

If Person A actively attacks gays or don't allow them to do the stuff they do, then they are in the wrong. They are oppressing.

But if Person A just doesn't feel comfortable or doesn't support them because of their belief but isn't going to harm them or force them to do anything then they aren't harming anyone, even if the opinion is a unsettling. 

 

However if Person B attacks the person if Person B is actually attacking gays (Verbally or physically) then it is expected to fight back.

But if Person B attacks someone because of their opinion while they don't hurt or say anything bad about them then Person B shouldn't really attack them and remain civil about it.

 

Because, to some people, you are just giving them reasons to hate homosexuals since people do love to generalize sometimes from first impressions or a bad moment. 

but even just saying that you dont support LGBT people and that they  make you uncomfortable is really harmful and damaging, and it is oppression

 

if someone says that, then they mean "you're ok, but you're gross and i dont think you should have the same basic rights as i do" and thats terrible. i feel threatened just by being around my family and my close friends and ive been called disgusting and told that i deserve to die, but how dare i tell a straight person that its wrong for them to be homophobic

[Queen Tery 4,591]

 

because that's reasonable?? saying that its wrong to hate your oppressors (which is what most people mean when they say that hatred breeds more hate) is gross and not true

 

 

I never used the word unreasonable. You're the only one saying that. But I do feel that there's nothing wrong with having the courage and strength to push past the hate. Hate is easy. Gay people do not deserve hatred for having feelings for people of the same sex. I agree with that and I do defend that belief. But there is a difference between "I hate gay people" and "I don't think being gay is right." I personally have no problem with homosexuality and I think we should accept people for who they are. I don't even believe it's a choice. Some people do and some people don't. But not everyone feels that way and that doesn't AUTOMATICALLY make them an awful or shitty person. People were raised different ways and experience different things in different ways. Showing someone that gay people deserve just as much right to love who they want as they please won't work if you end up pissing off the person you're trying to persuade. It only builds more hatred and anger. I never said I don't understand the anger that homosexuals have toward homophobes. I do think it's reasonable. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE that shows even the smallest sign of homophobia is a horrible, god awful person. Phobia is a fear. People fear what they don't understand. So what's wrong with helping them understand?

 

if someone says that, then they mean "you're ok, but you're gross and i dont think you should have the same basic rights as i do" and thats terrible. i feel threatened just by being around my family and my close friends and ive been called disgusting and told that i deserve to die, but how dare i tell a straight person that its wrong for them to be homophobic

 

And being told things like that IS wrong. But just because some people who are homophobic say those things to you, doesn't mean every person who disagrees with it feels that way to THAT extreme. You're asking people to keep an open mind, but it's a bit close minded to think that every person who disagrees with homosexuality automatically wants homosexuals dead/harmed.

[Godot 513]

I never used the word unreasonable. You're the only one saying that. But I do feel that there's nothing wrong with having the courage and strength to push past the hate. Hate is easy. Gay people do not deserve hatred for having feelings for people of the same sex. I agree with that and I do defend that belief. But there is a difference between "I hate gay people" and "I don't think being gay is right." I personally have no problem with homosexuality and I think we should accept people for who they are. I don't even believe it's a choice. Some people do and some people don't. But not everyone feels that way and that doesn't AUTOMATICALLY make them an awful or shitty person. People were raised different ways and experience different things in different ways. Showing someone that gay people deserve just as much right to love who they want as they please won't work if you end up pissing off the person you're trying to persuade. It only builds more hatred and anger. I never said I don't understand the anger that homosexuals have toward homophobes. I do think it's reasonable. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE that shows even the smallest sign of homophobia is a horrible, god awful person. Phobia is a fear. People fear what they don't understand. So what's wrong with helping them understand?

 

And being told things like that IS wrong. But just because some people who are homophobic say those things to you, doesn't mean every person who disagrees with it feels that way to THAT extreme. You're asking people to keep an open mind, but it's a bit close minded to think that every person who disagrees with homosexuality automatically wants homosexuals dead/harmed.

except homophobia isnt a fear at all and yeah if you're homophobic you are a bad person sorry. no one's ever gotten past their oppressors by being nice to them. im not going to be friendly to someone who doesnt think im worth having basic human rights.

 

try again

[Queen Tery 4,591]

except homophobia isnt a fear at all and yeah if you're homophobic you are a bad person sorry. no one's ever gotten past their oppressors by being nice to them. im not going to be friendly to someone who doesnt think im worth having basic human rights.

 

try again

 

That's a pretty black and white view though. This is good and this is bad. You don't feel that there are any morally gray areas? Things are a bit more complex than that.

[Godot 513]

That's a pretty black and white view though. This is good and this is bad. You don't feel that there are any morally gray areas? Things are a bit more complex than that.

the thing about this issue is that theres no morally gray areas when it comes to "either these people deserve basic human rights or they dont".

 

being apathetic towards it is just as bad as actively harming LGBT people; you're condoning their mistreatment and discrimination.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

the thing about this issue is that theres no morally gray areas when it comes to "either these people deserve basic human rights or they dont".

 

being apathetic towards it is just as bad as actively harming LGBT people; you're condoning their mistreatment and discrimination.

 

And I can understand that. I do feel like denying someone of basic rights is wrong. Especially based on a feeling they can't help. But if their opinion does not take a physical effect on someone else, I just personally don't see that as harmful. If they are murdering someone for being gay. Physically harming someone for being gay. Verbally assaulting someone for being gay. Even voting out against their rights when it has a political effect on homosexual people then I can see all of those things as wrong. Those have a direct/indirect effect on a person without that person's control. But just saying "I don't think being attracted to the same sex is right" doesn't harm you or anyone else. It sucks and it would feel nice to hear otherwise, but it doesn't actually harm you or anyone else. 

[Godot 513]

And I can understand that. I do feel like denying someone of basic rights is wrong. Especially based on a feeling they can't help. But if their opinion does not take a physical effect on someone else, I just personally don't see that as harmful. If they are murdering someone for being gay. Physically harming someone for being gay. Verbally assaulting someone for being gay. Even voting out against their rights when it has a political effect on homosexual people then I can see all of those things as wrong. Those have a direct/indirect effect on a person without that person's control. But just saying "I don't think being attracted to the same sex is right" doesn't harm you or anyone else. It sucks and it would feel nice to hear otherwise, but it doesn't actually harm you or anyone else. 

 

being apathetic towards it is just as bad as actively harming LGBT people; you're condoning their mistreatment and discrimination.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

 

 

But you can disagree with homosexuality and still be against their mistreatment. When you have a disagree with someone you love do you automatically hate them and drop them from your life?

[Godot 513]

But you can disagree with homosexuality and still be against their mistreatment. When you have a disagree with someone you love do you automatically hate them and drop them from your life?

by disagreeing with it, you are condoning their mistreatment. you really cant have it both ways??? "i think you're wrong and who you are is wrong but dont worry im there for you!" just doesnt work and i personally really wouldnt feel safe around someone like that.  im sorry i cant find a good way to word this i hope you can understand mm