Sargent Snake 0 Posted September 11, 2011 Hello all! I joined just so I could voice this theory I just thought of about seeing Terra in KH3. Alright, well here it goes. I believe Terra has won back his body, and here's why. We found out that in Birth By Sleep that Xehanort takes control over Terra's body, but not his heart. In KH 1, we see that Xehanort's nobody takes control over Riku, meaning that Xehanort's heart would of have to leave Terra's body. Now in KH 2, we see that there is a nobody form of Xehanort. This is where my theory gets murky. I believe that it could be the nobody Xehanort created when he first left his body to take over Terra's. While this is open to speculation, I don't think the creator of the series would toss Terra out of the picture like that. Especially how he made Terra sound so convincing when he stated that he would one day reclaim his body. Any thoughts on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 11, 2011 Hello all! I joined just so I could voice this theory I just thought of about seeing Terra in KH3. Alright, well here it goes. I believe Terra has won back his body, and here's why. We found out that in Birth By Sleep that Xehanort takes control over Terra's body, but not his heart. In KH 1, we see that Xehanort's nobody takes control over Riku, meaning that Xehanort's heart would of have to leave Terra's body. Now in KH 2, we see that there is a nobody form of Xehanort. This is where my theory gets murky. I believe that it could be the nobody Xehanort created when he first left his body to take over Terra's. While this is open to speculation, I don't think the creator of the series would toss Terra out of the picture like that. Especially how he made Terra sound so convincing when he stated that he would one day reclaim his body. Any thoughts on this? Xehanorts Nobody doesn't take control of Riku, his heartless uses his body to regain a presence in the realm of light. Xehanorts Heartless resembles young Xehanort, as it is his heart, Xemnas however, appears as Terra's body, but with Xehanorts gray hair corruption. As such, Terra's body was still under Xehanrots possession as Xemnas. This fact didn't change by the end of KH2, so the defeated forms of Xehanorts Heartless and Nobody will reform into Terra's body possessed by Xehanorts heart.Basically, Terra is still stuck inside his body, but Xehanrot is in control. They're not going to drop Terra, they're going to bring him up in a future game (He IS one of the people whose hurt Sora has to mend) either Dream Drop Distance, KH3, or some unannounced KH game will feature him more prominently. Whether he'll survive, or make a heroic sacrifice is another matter... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sargent Snake 0 Posted September 11, 2011 Xehanorts Nobody doesn't take control of Riku, his heartless uses his body to regain a presence in the realm of light. Xehanorts Heartless resembles young Xehanort, as it is his heart, Xemnas however, appears as Terra's body, but with Xehanorts gray hair corruption. As such, Terra's body was still under Xehanrots possession as Xemnas. This fact didn't change by the end of KH2, so the defeated forms of Xehanorts Heartless and Nobody will reform into Terra's body possessed by Xehanorts heart. Basically, Terra is still stuck inside his body, but Xehanrot is in control. They're not going to drop Terra, they're going to bring him up in a future game (He IS one of the people whose hurt Sora has to mend) either Dream Drop Distance, KH3, or some unannounced KH game will feature him more prominently. Whether he'll survive, or make a heroic sacrifice is another matter... I said Xehanort's heart possessed Riku, not his nobody. I was saying that Xemnas was just left-over of Xehanort's original body. Also, Nobody's CANNOT and DO NOT have a heart. This is stressed all throughout kingdom hearts 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 11, 2011 I think you need to understand how much you know about KH before making a theory. Anyway, welcome to the site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted September 11, 2011 I said Xehanort's heart possessed Riku, not his nobody. I was saying that Xemnas was just left-over of Xehanort's original body. Also, Nobody's CANNOT and DO NOT have a heart. This is stressed all throughout kingdom hearts 2. And yet Roxas had Ven's heart, which is why he looked like him and could Dual Wield. Anywho, I agree with what hatok said. Xehanort's heart didn't possess Riku, his Heartless did. And Xemnas was Terra's body, so he will come back as Terranort. Whether he'll be fully possessed by Xehanort or not, and whether or not he'll have all or some of his memories, we'll have to wait to find out. However, it is implied that it'll be Terranort returning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted September 11, 2011 I said Xehanort's heart possessed Riku, not his nobody. I was saying that Xemnas was just left-over of Xehanort's original body. Also, Nobody's CANNOT and DO NOT have a heart. This is stressed all throughout kingdom hearts 2. Hello all! I joined just so I could voice this theory I just thought of about seeing Terra in KH3. Alright, well here it goes. I believe Terra has won back his body, and here's why. We found out that in Birth By Sleep that Xehanort takes control over Terra's body, but not his heart. In KH 1, we see that Xehanort's nobody takes control over Riku, meaning that Xehanort's heart would of have to leave Terra's body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 11, 2011 Same thing I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishira 2,854 Posted September 11, 2011 This has nothing to do with your theory....but why is Sora the one to save Terra? I can understand the other characters.....but Terra? He had practically 0 interaction with him, I dunno, I just feel it would make more sense if Riku was the one to save him. Sorry, reading your theory reminded me of this. @___@; 1 Snow reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted September 11, 2011 Sorry mate, welcome to the site and all, but your theory kinda sucks. Your whole idea of Xemnas being Master Xehanort's Nobody from when he attempted to take over Terra's body is ridiculous. The biggest flaw in that theory is the fact that Xemnas has Apprentice Xehanort's memories. In other words, the memories that were created after the mixture between MX and Terra started apprenticing for Ansem the Wise. So, Xemnas has to be the Nobody that Apprentice Xehanort created. As for your theory that Nobodies cannot have hearts. Wrong again. Despite the thoughts of DiZ and Sora, Nobodies can posses hearts. It's already been revealed that Roxas has Ven's heart and that Xemnas has a heart of his own, pressumed to be Terra's due to his connection to Ventus and Aqua. And Naminé may also have a heart, at the moment, all that's been confirmed is that she has emotions. Now the complete transition of Terra and Master Xehanort is still unknown, but I've had to give my theory on this subject countless times, so here it is. You can decide if you believe it or not. Master Xehanort took his heart out of his own body, forcing it into Terra's, taking control of his body. Master Xehanort's body may have become a Nobody, but this unconfirmed. Terra's mind resisted MX and took control of the Lingering Sentiment, which fought Terranort. Aqua finds Terranort and fights him, saving him from the darkness and entrusting him with her keyblade and armor. In a moment of resistance, Terra is able to block the memories of both XM and his own, creating Terranort, as a new person- Xehanort. With Braig's help and some of MX's memories flowing into him, Xehanort begins experimenting with darkness and hearts and Nothingness. At one point, banishing Ansem the Wise to the realm of Nothingness. Xehanort takes on the role of Ansem and begins writing a report- The Ansem Report. After an experiment gone wrong, Xehanort and several other of Ansem's Apprentices were consumed by darkness, their hearts becoming Heartless and their bodies turning into Nobodies. These Nobodies created Organization XIII, which was, over time, joined by more members. Xehanort's heartless, Ansem-Seeker of Darkness, attempted to control the heartless and use the power of Kingdom Hearts hidden in the realm of darkness. Sora was able to defeat him. It's pressumed that the heart that created Ansem was MX's. Then of course, Xemnas, with Terra's heart presumably, fought and lost to Sora, meaning that both heart and body had returned to each other. It's presumed that MX again rules over Terra's body. 2 Kinode and phantomhive reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted September 11, 2011 Sorry mate, welcome to the site and all, but your theory kinda sucks. Your whole idea of Xemnas being Master Xehanort's Nobody from when he attempted to take over Terra's body is ridiculous. The biggest flaw in that theory is the fact that Xemnas has Apprentice Xehanort's memories. In other words, the memories that were created after the mixture between MX and Terra started apprenticing for Ansem the Wise. So, Xemnas has to be the Nobody that Apprentice Xehanort created. As for your theory that Nobodies cannot have hearts. Wrong again. Despite the thoughts of DiZ and Sora, Nobodies can posses hearts. It's already been revealed that Roxas has Ven's heart and that Xemnas has a heart of his own, pressumed to be Terra's due to his connection to Ventus and Aqua. And Naminé may also have a heart, at the moment, all that's been confirmed is that she has emotions. Now the complete transition of Terra and Master Xehanort is still unknown, but I've had to give my theory on this subject countless times, so here it is. You can decide if you believe it or not. Master Xehanort took his heart out of his own body, forcing it into Terra's, taking control of his body. Master Xehanort's body may have become a Nobody, but this unconfirmed. Terra's mind resisted MX and took control of the Lingering Sentiment, which fought Terranort. Aqua finds Terranort and fights him, saving him from the darkness and entrusting him with her keyblade and armor. In a moment of resistance, Terra is able to block the memories of both XM and his own, creating Terranort, as a new person- Xehanort. With Braig's help and some of MX's memories flowing into him, Xehanort begins experimenting with darkness and hearts and Nothingness. At one point, banishing Ansem the Wise to the realm of Nothingness. Xehanort takes on the role of Ansem and begins writing a report- The Ansem Report. After an experiment gone wrong, Xehanort and several other of Ansem's Apprentices were consumed by darkness, their hearts becoming Heartless and their bodies turning into Nobodies. These Nobodies created Organization XIII, which was, over time, joined by more members. Xehanort's heartless, Ansem-Seeker of Darkness, attempted to control the heartless and use the power of Kingdom Hearts hidden in the realm of darkness. Sora was able to defeat him. It's pressumed that the heart that created Ansem was MX's. Then of course, Xemnas, with Terra's heart presumably, fought and lost to Sora, meaning that both heart and body had returned to each other. It's presumed that MX again rules over Terra's body. This.You should go by steps, mate, and analyze small details more carefully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obi-wan 411 Posted September 11, 2011 I don't know but I got a feeling that Xehanort could get his own body and get rid of Xemnas. Doesn't Xemnas have Terra's mind since we see him with armor and the other clues to the possibility of that. Couldn't Terra if Xehanort did ditch him couldn't he use Xemnas's 'body to come back. And I know it's not full proof and/or decent. But it's an idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted September 11, 2011 I don't know but I got a feeling that Xehanort could get his own body and get rid of Xemnas. Doesn't Xemnas have Terra's mind since we see him with armor and the other clues to the possibility of that. Couldn't Terra if Xehanort did ditch him couldn't he use Xemnas's 'body to come back. And I know it's not full proof and/or decent. But it's an idea. Can you please phrase that better? It's really difficult to understand what you mean. At any rate, there are forces in the Kingdom Hearts Universe which makes your theory irrelevant and impossible. Sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted September 11, 2011 its nice to do theories, but nobodies dont have a heart. Terra is propably gonna be separated somehow from xehanort in kh3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obi-wan 411 Posted September 11, 2011 Let's say Xehanort made a new body. Xemnas has Terra's mind and body. So couldn't it be possible for Terra to come back by some how using Xemnas body since he had the soul and body. I thought of a second one too. And like I said they're not full proof or decent. He could come back possibly by having his heart merge with his armor. The armor would be the body and it has a mind identical to his. But like I said I don't think these would happen but hey Square Enix does all of these impossible things with the story and makes the characters do impossible thinks as well so why not think about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted September 11, 2011 The second one's a bit more realistic and could possibly happen. The problem with the first one is that, although Xemnas does have Terra's heart and mind. Terra's memories are mostly blocked off from him and he only remembers his time as Xehanort, which was heavily influenced by Braig. So unless Terra had been able to unleash all of his memories at one point, it's completely impossible for Terra to be in control of Xemnas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obi-wan 411 Posted September 11, 2011 Well Xehanort wouldn't be there and maybe from unlatching from Terra his memories would be able to get through and allow control over the body. Again not full proof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snow 1,800 Posted September 17, 2011 Since Terra is Xehanort (I guess) Riku will recognize him and fight to save Terra. Riku might be a fully playable character and fight Xehanort by himself. Aqua might be there, too, assuming she got out of RoD. Riku might fail, and Aqua helps him? Before I start rambling about how the battle might go, what about Ven? Is he still trapped inside his heart after the fight with Vanitas? Does he ever wake up? I know Ven is inside Sora's body, but will he ever get out of Sora's body and back into his? Then will Ven help to save Terra too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites