riku1123 11 Posted September 10, 2011 Name one that isn't true. #6, if your saying that it doesn't have programs like word, powerpoint, excel, internet explorer, etc., you could also say that pc's don't have pages, keynote, numbers, safari, etc. Furthermore you can buy word, powerpoint, and excel for your mac. Honestly saying that pc's have all the programs that macs don't is not true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted September 10, 2011 #6, if your saying that it doesn't have programs like word, powerpoint, excel, internet explorer, etc., you could also say that pc's don't have pages, keynote, numbers, safari, etc. Furthermore you can buy word, powerpoint, and excel for your mac. Honestly saying that pc's have all the programs that macs don't is not true. Internet Explorer is PC only. And PCs can download safari (a shitty browser) as well. And Iworks is an exact replica of Office. A poor replica at that. If it was so good why does office now come pre-installed on most apple computers, yet you have to download Iworks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 11, 2011 Games can be considered programs too, and macs can't play very many games compared to windows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xenidal 36 Posted September 11, 2011 1. Everything you can do on a MAC can be done on a PC - wrong, there's lots of stuff that can be done on a Mac that can't be done on a PC 3. Macs are obsolete in 1 year - what do you consider "obsolete"? My Mac is more than a year old and it works fine 5. A 2000 dollar MAC has the hardware abilities of a 1000 dollar PC - What "hardware"? Also you need to take into consideration the fact that the "hardware" of a Mac is probably a much higher quality than the "hardware" of a PC if the cost is that much different 6. PCs have all the programs - ummm, no they don't 8. Steve Jobs, former CEO and lead designer of Apple designed and programmed all his ideas on a PC - And Bill Gates used an IBM at some point, what's that got to do with anything? 9. My fathers Macbook Air got a virus within the first week of usage, because Apple is so full of itself they said "DERP we don't need anti-virus" a virus that would be instantly deleted by a PC can cripple a MAC. - PCs don't delete viruses... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 11, 2011 1. Everything you can do on a MAC can be done on a PC - wrong, there's lots of stuff that can be done on a Mac that can't be done on a PC 3. Macs are obsolete in 1 year - what do you consider "obsolete"? My Mac is more than a year old and it works fine 5. A 2000 dollar MAC has the hardware abilities of a 1000 dollar PC - What "hardware"? Also you need to take into consideration the fact that the "hardware" of a Mac is probably a much higher quality than the "hardware" of a PC if the cost is that much different 6. PCs have all the programs - ummm, no they don't 8. Steve Jobs, former CEO and lead designer of Apple designed and programmed all his ideas on a PC - And Bill Gates used an IBM at some point, what's that got to do with anything? 9. My fathers Macbook Air got a virus within the first week of usage, because Apple is so full of itself they said "DERP we don't need anti-virus" a virus that would be instantly deleted by a PC can cripple a MAC. - PCs don't delete viruses... 1. If you can make a list of 5 programs macs have that PCs don't have an equivalent for, I'd be happy to here it.3. Obsolete means outdated. As in: When the iphone 4 was released, about 1 year after the release of the iphone 3G, the iphone 3G became obsolete. 5. Hardware is the stuff a computer is made of, like processors, memory storage units, etc. The quality of a PCs hardware is excactly the same, that's why it's stupid that apple computers with the equivalent cost $1000 more 6. Yes they do, actually. PCs have more programs than macs, and PC programs have better quality. 8. If a PC can design a mac, shouldn't that mean the PC is better? 9. If anti-virus software finds a virus it instantly deletes it. Isn't that considerate of PCs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 11, 2011 Internet Explorer is PC only. And PCs can download safari (a shitty browser) as well. And Iworks is an exact replica of Office. A poor replica at that. If it was so good why does office now come pre-installed on most apple computers, yet you have to download Iworks? the quality of a browser is a matter of opinion, I find that safari works far better than internet explorer. I agree that Office is better than Iworks, but that wasn't the point of my argument, I said that Iworks is a program that pc doesn't have. I still go by my earlier comment that I agree that pc's are better for desktops because that is where my printer is, where i play games, etc. and that mac's are better for laptops as load times are at least 3 times faster, which comes in handy when you want to quickly look something up. I think that both computers have their benefits, Pc's programs and Mac's speed, and downfalls, Pc's lac of speed and Mac's lack of programs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted September 11, 2011 I have a personal preference of a PC. I've used them since I was born. I don't intend on betraying PC and Windows. Plus, an Eee PC (those tiny netbook computers) cost like 300 or 400 bucks while the Macbook Air costs way more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSylverBlue 1 Posted September 11, 2011 PC I guess. I've never really used a Mac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 11, 2011 the quality of a browser is a matter of opinion, I find that safari works far better than internet explorer. I agree that Office is better than Iworks, but that wasn't the point of my argument, I said that Iworks is a program that pc doesn't have. I still go by my earlier comment that I agree that pc's are better for desktops because that is where my printer is, where i play games, etc. and that mac's are better for laptops as load times are at least 3 times faster, which comes in handy when you want to quickly look something up. I think that both computers have their benefits, Pc's programs and Mac's speed, and downfalls, Pc's lac of speed and Mac's lack of programs Macs aren't faster than PCs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 11, 2011 Macs aren't faster than PCs. Have you ever turned on a macbook pro at the same time you start up a windows 7. You find that the load up times are far faster. Also in my house i find that the macs internet is better, but that may just be my house. I haven't used a pc yet which is faster than a mac in any way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted September 11, 2011 I haven't used a pc yet which is faster than a mac in any way How can you even make a comparison then? I'm starting to think you are infected with the fanboy virus... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xenidal 36 Posted September 11, 2011 1. If you can make a list of 5 programs macs have that PCs don't have an equivalent for, I'd be happy to here it. 3. Obsolete means outdated. As in: When the iphone 4 was released, about 1 year after the release of the iphone 3G, the iphone 3G became obsolete. 5. Hardware is the stuff a computer is made of, like processors, memory storage units, etc. The quality of a PCs hardware is excactly the same, that's why it's stupid that apple computers with the equivalent cost $1000 more 6. Yes they do, actually. PCs have more programs than macs, and PC programs have better quality. 8. If a PC can design a mac, shouldn't that mean the PC is better? 9. If anti-virus software finds a virus it instantly deletes it. Isn't that considerate of PCs? 1. I remember using a game-editing program at school that was Mac-only but I forget what it was called. But a simple Google search found these 5 Mac-exclusive programs: http://macmeister.blogspot.com/2009/05/5-top-notch-mac-exclusive-applications.html3. Then that means Macs are improved upon 5 times as much as PCs... 5. Okay... that kind of hardware. The price difference isn't from the hardware... it's because Apple has a monopoly on Macs so no one else can make them for cheaper. 6. "PCs have all the programs" does not mean "PCs have more programs than macs" And also the quality depends on the program. Historically Photoshop has been better on Macs 8. No, the PC never "designed" the Mac. Someone (Steve Jobs) had to have designed it. If he designed it on paper would that make paper better than a Mac? 9. That's only if you have anti-virus software on the PC. I've never had a virus problem with my Mac and I don't have anti-virus software Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 11, 2011 How can you even make a comparison then? I'm starting to think you are infected with the fanboy virus... I can make a comparison because i have used both mac's and pc's, i don't think you understood my statement by which i meant that out of all the pc's i have tried, i have never found one faster than a macbook pro. Also if you have read my earlier comments, i am not a fanboy since i like both pc's and mac's for different reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 11, 2011 1. I remember using a game-editing program at school that was Mac-only but I forget what it was called. But a simple Google search found these 5 Mac-exclusive programs: http://macmeister.bl...plications.html 3. Then that means Macs are improved upon 5 times as much as PCs... 5. Okay... that kind of hardware. The price difference isn't from the hardware... it's because Apple has a monopoly on Macs so no one else can make them for cheaper. 6. "PCs have all the programs" does not mean "PCs have more programs than macs" And also the quality depends on the program. Historically Photoshop has been better on Macs 8. No, the PC never "designed" the Mac. Someone (Steve Jobs) had to have designed it. If he designed it on paper would that make paper better than a Mac? 9. That's only if you have anti-virus software on the PC. I've never had a virus problem with my Mac and I don't have anti-virus software 1. Windows has plenty of chat applications, they're not mac-exclusive. There are plenty of hard-drive backup applications for windows. PCs also have web browsers, I'm using one right now. Task manager is exactly like that, and it comes pre-installed on every PC. Windows applications don't need that, because they already notify you when something happens.3. No, they improve just as much as windows, windows just doesn't think they've made some kind of revolutionary computer every time they fix a graphics bug. 5. It's still more expensive for a mac. Saying that's a good reason for macs to be more expensive is like saying it would be okay if all food made you really fat, as long as mcdonalds was the only restaurant in the world. 6. For every program mac has, windows has an equal or better equivalent. End of discussion. 8. Nobody said the PC invented the mac. We said steve jobs used a PC to design it, therefore macs wouldn't be what they are today without PCs. If steve jobs invented an entire computer with only a pencil and paper, it wouldn't mean the paper is better, it would mean steve jobs is god. (Please note: I said IF he invented it on paper. In no way did I say steve jobs is god.) 9. Most PCs come with anti-virus pre-installed. I've never had a virus problem with my PC and my anti-virus software has never had to do anything, but if I was going to have a virus problem, the software is there. If you have a virus problem, your mac might become conscious in the middle of the night and try to eat your family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xenidal 36 Posted September 12, 2011 1. Windows has plenty of chat applications, they're not mac-exclusive. There are plenty of hard-drive backup applications for windows. PCs also have web browsers, I'm using one right now. Task manager is exactly like that, and it comes pre-installed on every PC. Windows applications don't need that, because they already notify you when something happens. 3. No, they improve just as much as windows, windows just doesn't think they've made some kind of revolutionary computer every time they fix a graphics bug. 5. It's still more expensive for a mac. Saying that's a good reason for macs to be more expensive is like saying it would be okay if all food made you really fat, as long as mcdonalds was the only restaurant in the world. 6. For every program mac has, windows has an equal or better equivalent. End of discussion. 8. Nobody said the PC invented the mac. We said steve jobs used a PC to design it, therefore macs wouldn't be what they are today without PCs. If steve jobs invented an entire computer with only a pencil and paper, it wouldn't mean the paper is better, it would mean steve jobs is god. (Please note: I said IF he invented it on paper. In no way did I say steve jobs is god.) 9. Most PCs come with anti-virus pre-installed. I've never had a virus problem with my PC and my anti-virus software has never had to do anything, but if I was going to have a virus problem, the software is there. If you have a virus problem, your mac might become conscious in the middle of the night and try to eat your family. 1. I said those specific applications aren't available for PC. Not that there's nothing similar. I can even say iWorks does stuff a PC doesn't since you can save things as pdfs in Pages but not in Word. Of course there'll be programs to do similar stuff... if people need to do something and there's no way of doing it then sooner or later someone will write a program for it. It doesn't matter if it's Mac or PC3. If each new "version" is just new graphics like you say then don't buy it every time it goes "obsolete" 5. I never said that it was a good reason. I agree that it's annoying that Macs are more expensive and can only be fixed by Apple 6. That's not even true... or if it is then they're all minor programs that no one has heard of. I will now prove my point: Photo Booth. There is no PC program to my knowledge that does everything Photo Both does 8. The PC was still just a tool. Steve Jobs is what made the Mac what it is today 9. No anti-virus software will guarantee protection. I have "no anti-virus software", therefore I have "guaranteed protection". And even if my comment made sense it wouldn't explain why PCs with anti-virus still get viruses when Macs don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amon 4,279 Posted September 12, 2011 I can make a comparison because i have used both mac's and pc's, i don't think you understood my statement by which i meant that out of all the pc's i have tried, i have never found one faster than a macbook pro. Also if you have read my earlier comments, i am not a fanboy since i like both pc's and mac's for different reasons. Well the highest end macbook pro only has 2.7 maximum Ghz of computing power. An Alienware of the 300 dollars less p has 3.6 Ghz of computing power. Therefore PCs are A LOT faster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 12, 2011 Well the highest end macbook pro only has 2.7 maximum Ghz of computing power. An Alienware of the 300 dollars less p has 3.6 Ghz of computing power. Therefore PCs are A LOT faster. How fast is the start up time on one of those? I have never tried one of them, but if it takes less than the 20 seconds it takes to start up my mac, then i will be impressed. My main statement about speed isn't the computing power, but which is faster if i was watching tv, and i suddenly felt like looking up who played a character in the movie i'm watching. I could turn on my mac, look up my question, and turn off my mac in the same time my pc turns on fully and maybe pulls up my browser, for me, that is my main concern for a laptop, not actually the speed of the computer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalnet 1,198 Posted September 12, 2011 PC. But then again, Mac is for those who favor adobe software and other designs so anyone has their own taste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 13, 2011 How fast is the start up time on one of those? I have never tried one of them, but if it takes less than the 20 seconds it takes to start up my mac, then i will be impressed. My main statement about speed isn't the computing power, but which is faster if i was watching tv, and i suddenly felt like looking up who played a character in the movie i'm watching. I could turn on my mac, look up my question, and turn off my mac in the same time my pc turns on fully and maybe pulls up my browser, for me, that is my main concern for a laptop, not actually the speed of the computer I'll check how fast my laptop starts up. One second. EDIT: 19 seconds. I have an i3 processor, and it's a laptop. And how much did your mac cost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 13, 2011 about $1200 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 13, 2011 Your mac costs 200 dollars more than my PC, and my PC can start up 1.1 times as quickly. Who's computer was a better deal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riku1123 11 Posted September 13, 2011 tickle me impressed banana man (if i may call you that), but i still stick with mac, though i do enjoy pc's for some things Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superbanana 230 Posted September 13, 2011 Like games, software, hardware, everything. Just admit that PCs are the Chuck Norris of computers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted September 13, 2011 Superbanana is right. PC's are the Chuck Norris of computers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
