Question about Vanitas

[Azure Flame 670]

his body and heart were already seperating, besides, when kairi was losing hers, she directed it to sora, she just didnt take it over like xehanort. like i said, mx didnt release it, it was being released, he just directed it. his body faded away like soras, so it can be assumed that his body was creating the first nobody. as khwiki says, A Nobody (ノーバディ Nōbadi^?) is what remains of those who have lost their hearts to Darkness. They are the remaining parts left behind by the heart: the body, giving a Nobody form, and the soul, giving the Nobody life. terra used darkness to defeat him so he had lost to darkness. he was starting to seperate already. so, instead of a heartless, he sent his heart to terra. his keyblade really just directed it to him.

 

First of all, you shouldn't rely on wiki for info like that, as it's unreliable. And by lose their heart to Darkness, it means their heart was swallowed up by it, thus creating a Heartless. You don't need a Nobody to have a Heartless, but you do need a Heartless to have a Nobody.

[Darkfire1408 43]

 

First of all, you shouldn't rely on wiki for info like that, as it's unreliable. And by lose their heart to Darkness, it means their heart was swallowed up by it, thus creating a Heartless. You don't need a Nobody to have a Heartless, but you do need a Heartless to have a Nobody.

Okay, at that time, heartless didn't exist in the realm of light. You seem to be stuck on if you lose your heart, it is now a heartless. All seven princesses of heart lost theirs to darkness, no heartless or nobodies appeared. And when namine was created, there was not a kairi heartless. Two hearts, one heartless, two nobodies, one body that they all came from. Do the math, and you'll see that there doesn't need to be a heartless for a nobody to form. Think, a nobody Is the body left over, or in roxas/namine case, the body split from the original. When someone is "swallowed" by the darkness as you put it, their heart, if it doesn't hide in someone close to it, turns into a heartless. The body, is sent to a world neither dark nor light and becomes a nobody. Both are made unless the heart hides in another person or the person is weak in heart and will. The two generally go together. Who knows, maybe the mysterious figure from bbs was his nobody. The land of departure is neutral ground. It would make sence that, given the choice, mx's nobody would go to his homeworld instead of twilight town. As eraqus said, it is neutral ground. While that's being said, xemnes also fought with two glowing blades did he not? Coincidence? I think not. Think, some hooded figure with blades similar to xemnes's

[Azure Flame 670]

Okay, at that time, heartless didn't exist in the realm of light. You seem to be stuck on if you lose your heart, it is now a heartless. All seven princesses of heart lost theirs to darkness, no heartless or nobodies appeared. And when namine was created, there was not a kairi heartless. Two hearts, one heartless, two nobodies, one body that they all came from. Do the math, and you'll see that there doesn't need to be a heartless for a nobody to form. Think, a nobody Is the body left over, or in roxas/namine case, the body split from the original. When someone is "swallowed" by the darkness as you put it, their heart, if it doesn't hide in someone close to it, turns into a heartless. The body, is sent to a world neither dark nor light and becomes a nobody. Both are made unless the heart hides in another person or the person is weak in heart and will. The two generally go together. Who knows, maybe the mysterious figure from bbs was his nobody. The land of departure is neutral ground. It would make sence that, given the choice, mx's nobody would go to his homeworld instead of twilight town. As eraqus said, it is neutral ground. While that's being said, xemnes also fought with two glowing blades did he not? Coincidence? I think not. Think, some hooded figure with blades similar to xemnes's

 

Heartless have always existed, they just didn't appear in the RoL unless they were called there. Remember, Ven was fighting against a whole bunch of NeoShadows that MX sent on him to make him use darkness. And I never said when you lose your heart it gets swallowed by darkness, but that is usually what happens if it doesn't go to another body. As for Namine, Sora's Heartless provided the Heartless for her and Roxas, as Kairi's heart was in Sora when it was released. The Princesses of Heart have Hearts of Pure light, so they can't become Heartless or Nobodies. As for MF, it's already been stated by Nomura that he is someone we do not know, and the fight in BBS isn't canon.

[Darkfire1408 43]

 

Heartless have always existed, they just didn't appear in the RoL unless they were called there. Remember, Ven was fighting against a whole bunch of NeoShadows that MX sent on him to make him use darkness. And I never said when you lose your heart it gets swallowed by darkness, but that is usually what happens if it doesn't go to another body. As for Namine, Sora's Heartless provided the Heartless for her and Roxas, as Kairi's heart was in Sora when it was released. The Princesses of Heart have Hearts of Pure light, so they can't become Heartless or Nobodies. As for MF, it's already been stated by Nomura that he is someone we do not know, and the fight in BBS isn't canon.

Okay, that was the point I was trying to make when I said heartless don't exist in the realm of light. And what it seems you're saying is there always has to be a heartless for there to be a nobody. As yen Sid was telling sora, the empty shell left behind begins to act with a will of it's own. It really just means in my opinion, their hearts left but their soul still lives on giving them life. It doesn't matter what happens to the heart, if it was strong, the body ( poh, ven excluded ) turns into a nobody. Xehanorts body can't just dissapere. I think it went to the land of departure as the mysterious figure. No it may not be canon to the series. But it is his nobody. And you could say, in the beginning of kh2 we didn't know roxas. He's just some kid who for some reason has the keyblade. Until it's revealed that he's soras nobody, we don't quite know him. Knowing the somebody doesn't mean you know the nobody. It adds almost nothing, just a small tidbit. It makes sense for it to be his nobody. You don't see him until you beat the game and the storylines gone past that already.