replika13 455 Posted June 8, 2011 everyone says, Aqua is the one that can find the chamber where vens body is in CO. where do you know that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 8, 2011 You clearly didn't play BBS or watch a walkthrough, as it was mentioned in the Final Episode when Aqua brings Ven to Land of Departure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naroco 26 Posted June 8, 2011 If u play BBS it shows Aqua changing Land of Departure to castle Oblivion. where Ericus (cant spell lol) sat is where Ven sits now, waiting for his heart and her return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted June 8, 2011 Aqua is the one who left Ventus in the chamber. Obviously she knows where the chamber is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted June 8, 2011 As the others said, play the game or watch the scene where Aqua changes LoD to CO. Eraqus tells her that after she changes the world, all who wander it will get lost in oblivion, except her. Therefore, only she can successfully navigate through the castle and find Ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OblivionRider 50 Posted June 8, 2011 ^That's pretty much it. We don't exactly know if Aqua does know how to find Ven or whether she'll have to figure it out when she gets there, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Eraqus' keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 8, 2011 ^That's pretty much it. We don't exactly know if Aqua does know how to find Ven or whether she'll have to figure it out when she gets there, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Eraqus' keyblade. If she found a way out, she can get back in since it's basically her house now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraKH 793 Posted June 9, 2011 u have to play bbs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khoathkeeper13 429 Posted June 9, 2011 Well in COM it's shown that the rooms change into places from your memories and Aqua is the only one who can remember the place. Now if she would somehow lose all her memories then the saving Ven thing would be screwed up and he'd be locked in that room forever then the fangirls will riot. 1 Darkfire1408 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkfire1408 43 Posted July 9, 2011 Well in COM it's shown that the rooms change into places from your memories and Aqua is the only one who can remember the place. Now if she would somehow lose all her memories then the saving Ven thing would be screwed up and he'd be locked in that room forever then the fangirls will riot. Well, if Memories from roxas before sora even met him could make twilight town then I doubt that aqua wouldn't be able to navigate it. Also, oblivion could mean memories, nobodies exempt because they don't even really, truly exist. Soras memories vanished along with those connected to him. While riku may not have appeared to lose his memory, he did not journey with sora, his and mickeys memories weren't affected to much by that. Because all who came would come to oblivion, sora had to choose which memories he wanted to keep. So she would be able to find him and if, for some reason she can't, vens heart might guide them to him. And as I believe that roxas has vens heart, roxas could show sora the way. This might mean that he and aqua would have to travel together because the others hearts would come to oblivion by the time they reached the top. With no memory, the experiences that made them strong will fade and they would fall to darkness. When eraqus told aqua that all would come to oblivion except you. He might have meant except keyblade masters or the original inhabitants of this world. I think ddd will focus on preparing sora and riku to find ven. So, Mickey, riku, sora, and roxas might be the search party for ven and aqua. Castle oblivion is a pathway from the realm of darkness to the realm of light. Riku and Mickey escaped from the realm of darkness that way. Yen Sid was virtually penpals with eraqus and probably knew about the plan if he should fall. So he might know where castle oblivion is. In kingdom hearts 2 final mix sora fights lingering sentiment. Mickey might know who that really is. While sora and riku are tested, Mickey could go through the portal and ask terra what happened. Then he'd know that xehanort has his body. They all know how hard half of him is to defeat let alone the whole thing with a possible kingdom hearts backing him up. They'd know that they need aqua and ven to save him. Ddd will focus on soras and rikus training and may show cutscenes of mickeys behind the scenes work. Then, kh3 will be rescuing aqua and ven to defeat xehanort and save terra. And, if I remember right, the kh series will continue without the xehanort focus, it won't be called kingdom hearts but it will continue and maybe revisit sora, ven, etc. Maybe it will focus on getting rid of the heartless and purifying the realm of light. Since atw brought the heartless with his experiments he'll probably play a large role. 1 xBerserkerSaix07x reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted July 9, 2011 I don't see what the whole point was in making that extremley long post. Anyway, you have not played BBS or watched the cutscence when Aqua moved Ven's body to the Chanber of Repose or whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted July 9, 2011 The reason people lost memories in Castle Oblivion was because someone was manipulating them. Aqua would probably be lead by Eraqus keyblade with no problems unless something else is in that castle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted July 9, 2011 The reason people lost memories in Castle Oblivion was because someone was manipulating them. Aqua would probably be lead by Eraqus keyblade with no problems unless something else is in that castle Not just someone, but Namine. The only ones who lost their memories were Sora, Donald, Goofy, and Jiminy(sp). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted July 10, 2011 Yeah sorry I was a little tired when I wrote it because I was thinking of Re:Coded but Sora lost his memory before it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mog 97 Posted July 10, 2011 Eraqus: ''Just use the key, and this land will be transformed.From that day forward, all who visit this land will be lost to oblivion,none ever able to solve the mystery.None Aqua, except you.'' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted July 10, 2011 Yeah sorry I was a little tired when I wrote it because I was thinking of Re:Coded but Sora lost his memory before it. No he didn't. He started losing his memories when he entered Castle Oblivion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted July 10, 2011 No Sora lost all his memories before. When the datascape was redid or whatever Sora lost all the memories of his adventure. Only Aqua can find Ven in Castle oblivion, but if you think about it, maybe Sora can find Ven because Ven is in Sora. Who knows what is going to happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted July 10, 2011 No Sora lost all his memories before. When the datascape was redid or whatever Sora lost all the memories of his adventure. Only Aqua can find Ven in Castle oblivion, but if you think about it, maybe Sora can find Ven because Ven is in Sora. Who knows what is going to happen. There was no datascape between KH1 and CoM, I think you've got that confused with Data Sora and Re:Coded. And no, Sora can't find Ven. Only Aqua can successfully make her way through Castle Oblivion. Everyone else would just wander around aimlessly, even Sora. Just because he has Ven's heart doesn't mean he can find him. He isn't in control of Castle Oblivion, Aqua is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted July 10, 2011 I said Re:Coded. That was the only other game where you actually played in castle oblivion. Also you never know, Vens heart could lead Sora to his body. We dont writethe story for KH so who knows what the writers will do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted July 10, 2011 I said Re:Coded. That was the only other game where you actually played in castle oblivion. Also you never know, Vens heart could lead Sora to his body. We dont writethe story for KH so who knows what the writers will do. Sorry, I misread what you said. But it's still not Sora, it's Data Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkfire1408 43 Posted July 10, 2011 I don't see what the whole point was in making that extremley long post. Anyway, you have not played BBS or watched the cutscence when Aqua moved Ven's body to the Chanber of Repose or whatever. I did see that cutscene and I was just saying that all the somebodies have come to oblivion. Sora, Donald, and goofy weren't the only ones affected, everyone who knew him was. Even rikus memories changed. It wasn't shown but sora never really made direct contact with Mickey in any of the worlds shown in the cards so his memory wasn't affected but riku crossed paths with him a few times. Besides switching kairi for namine, she didn't really alter soras memory of destiny islands much. And as I recall, riku never really mentioned kairi in com did he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace326 79 Posted July 10, 2011 True, but I was thinking about something else at the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkfire1408 43 Posted July 10, 2011 Eraqus: ''Just use the key, and this land will be transformed.From that day forward, all who visit this land will be lost to oblivion,none ever able to solve the mystery.None Aqua, except you.'' I didn't remember the exact words okay. He could have been referring to the fact that aqua is a keyblade master and terra is starting to fall to darkness. He could probably sense vens light and know that he has no darkness to balance it out. With his need to do what's right, he ended up almost starting another keyblade war. Mx probably told him how he had to separate the darkness from him to save him like he told terra. So he knew that vanitas existed and that he may attempt to merge with him. So ven could never be a master without knowing darkness, hewould be more likely to sucomb to darkness if it took hold. He knew that aqua might be the last master besides xehanort. Or it could just be aqua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted July 10, 2011 I did see that cutscene and I was just saying that all the somebodies have come to oblivion. Sora, Donald, and goofy weren't the only ones affected, everyone who knew him was. Even rikus memories changed. It wasn't shown but sora never really made direct contact with Mickey in any of the worlds shown in the cards so his memory wasn't affected but riku crossed paths with him a few times. Besides switching kairi for namine, she didn't really alter soras memory of destiny islands much. And as I recall, riku never really mentioned kairi in com did he? Riku and Sora never crossed paths in CO. It was just the Riku Replica, who was created by Vexen and then given new memories by Namine. And none of the Somebodies went to CO except for Sora, Donald, Goofy, Riku, and Mickey. Everyone else you saw there were illusions, created from the cards, which were created from their memories. Have you ever actually played CoM all the way through, and then played Reverse/Rebirth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkfire1408 43 Posted July 10, 2011 Riku and Sora never crossed paths in CO. It was just the Riku Replica, who was created by Vexen and then given new memories by Namine. And none of the Somebodies went to CO except for Sora, Donald, Goofy, Riku, and Mickey. Everyone else you saw there were illusions, created from the cards, which were created from their memories. Have you ever actually played CoM all the way through, and then played Reverse/Rebirth? Yes, im talking about In kingdom hearts 2 when everyone sora knew forgot him for a year. It's mentioned in several worlds by several people. Noone remembered him until his memories were restored. In reverse/rebirth, I don't remember riku saying anything about kairi. The replica actually did mention that he told sora to take care of her. Rikus and mickeys paths in kh1 hardly ever crossed soras so they remembered most of it. Kairi was linked to sora by the wayfinder she made so she was more affected then those in other worlds. Sora completely forgot her and she completely forgot him. Mickey saw him for one fleeting moment that wasn't represented in the rooms. So Mickey never forgot him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites