Does Xehanort have Aqua's memories?

[Tom 437]

I know this is a stupid thing to say, but I've seeing no one has noticed this. Or try to figure it out.

 

Remember how Xemnas would send Axel to Castle Oblivion to search for like a room? Inside that room would be Ventus's body? But yet, how does he figure out Ven is in there? As a matter of fact, how does he know there is a room there? There's no sense in this.

 

Terranort was never there when Aqua created Castle Oblivion or never there to see Ven sleeping in his chair. Is anyone buying this?

 

Now it would make sense if Master Xehanort has seen Castle Oblivion. But I doubt that. Even if he has the knowledge of locking the land away, he would of had to see it, and I don't see it happening.

 

I believe that Aqua's armor and Keyblade has something to do with. He might be collecting Aqua's memories in the Chamber of Sleep through the two. I don't actually know but something is up with Xemnas' plans.

 

Leave your thoughts below on what you think about this. And no stupid comments or arguments

[Tails 6,690]

It's most likely assumed that Xemans's "friend" (who we all know is Aqua) that he visits from the Room of Sleep may have told him about Ven's body being in C.O. But no, Master Xehanort does not haver any memories of C.O. nor does he even know about the place for that matter, even as "Terranort".

[Naroco 26]

I think he was just crazy

[Tom 437]

It's most likely assumed that Xemans's "friend" (who we all know is Aqua) that he visits from the Room of Sleep may have told him about Ven's body being in C.O.

 

Ah, but what if the armor/Keyblade was an illusion and there was actually another person there that appeared only when Xemnas was there? Honestly, I don't think it really did talk to him unless something was inhabiting in. And if Keyblades really did have a mind of his own, then I don't think Aqua's would betray her lol.

 

But no, Master Xehanort does not haver any memories of C.O. nor does he even know about the place for that matter, even as "Terranort".

 

That's what I was implying, but thanks for backing me up anyway.

 

I think he was just crazy

 

That doesn't answer anything.

[deathrebirthsenshi 279]

I was just wondering that the other day! So I'm not crazy, he really shouldn't know about Ven being in C.O. Good to know...

 

It could be possible that Aqua's armor told him, although why on earth it would do that I don't know. Then again, she doesn't really know that Terra was taken over by Xehanort, does she? So she probably thought it was Terra and told him in hopes that he may be able to save Ven.

 

Or could it even be from Eraqus' memories? We haven't really seen much influence from Eraqus in Xemnas, but Eraqus was the one who told Aqua how to change the land of departure, right? Xemnas may not have even known that Ven was in there necessarily (but wait! In days he said that sleep had taken Roxas again...meaning Ven, right?), but that it was the key to figuring out (I haven't finished watching all of BBS yet, I'm working on it). Gah! This is confusing! I wonder if DDD will go into this?

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Clues from different games kinda tell us that he found out from Aqua through her armor. For one, technically speaking, she is the only one who even knows that he's sleeping. Second, I doubt he would randomly assume that "oh there's a castle Ven's must be there", he has to have gotten it somewhere. Third, it's possible that Aqua can communicate with Xemnas through the armor. Besides, Xemnas is more of a Terra with Xehanort's motives. And in Days, he says "sleep has taken you yet again" to Roxas, most likely impying it to Ven, and only Aqua should know about him sleeping.

[pastelxdreams 10]

I know this is a stupid thing to say, but I've seeing no one has noticed this. Or try to figure it out.

 

Remember how Xemnas would send Axel to Castle Oblivion to search for like a room? Inside that room would be Ventus's body? But yet, how does he figure out Ven is in there? As a matter of fact, how does he know there is a room there? There's no sense in this.

 

Terranort was never there when Aqua created Castle Oblivion or never there to see Ven sleeping in his chair. Is anyone buying this?

 

Now it would make sense if Master Xehanort has seen Castle Oblivion. But I doubt that. Even if he has the knowledge of locking the land away, he would of had to see it, and I don't see it happening.

 

I believe that Aqua's armor and Keyblade has something to do with. He might be collecting Aqua's memories in the Chamber of Sleep through the two. I don't actually know but something is up with Xemnas' plans.

I was thinking this over and it's pretty good. I thought it was the connection between Terra and Ven that Xemnas assumed that Ven might be still in Castle Oblivion even though Terranort was not there when Aqua changed it/ left Ven there. It's hard to say, Aqua didn't give any magic or did anything to the amour to give out memories. I thought it was because Xemnas [and I know other Xehanort embodies but I want to focus on the nobody] being Terra [partly because of MX taking over Terras body in BBS] a part of him still remembers, calling Aqua 'friend' [which was the obvious part]

 

Breaking it down, I think it is the connection between Terra, Aqua and Ventus

[Tails 6,690]

Ah, but what if the armor/Keyblade was an illusion and there was actually another person there that appeared only when Xemnas was there? Honestly, I don't think it really did talk to him unless something was inhabiting in. And if Keyblades really did have a mind of his own, then I don't think Aqua's would betray her lol.

Actually, if I remember right, Xigbar said he heard another voice in the room Xemnas was in with Aqua's armor. Implying that there may have been some sentiments within the armor itself, almost like with Terra's lingering sentiment. And as TerranortXIII had said, there has been hints about Aqua's armor talking to Xemnas. But who can really say for sure? You're guess is as good as mine at this point lol.

 

@deathrebirthsenshi, Well since Aqua was the one who created C.O. and put Ven in the Room of Awakening, then it would make good sense as to why Aqua's armor told Xemnas about where Ven's body is. Especially sense there are possible remains of Aqua within the armor as well. Now as for Aqua knowing about Xehanort possessing Terra. Well, she mostly assumed that Terra succumbed to darkness and fell to it. She was unaware about Xehanort controlling him. Her armor might have maybe sensed a part of Terra within Xemnas maybe. Which would be why it told him about C.O. As for Eraqus, he didn't really have a role to play through all this so I really can't say anything about him.

[keystrike 145]

Eraqus might have had something to do with that knowledge of co being lod. After all it wouldn't be the first influence: Aqua said the master said that power comes from the heart, and xemnas emotes a simmilar philosophy by saying "hearts are the source of all power." However, this still doesn't explain how Xemnas came to know of Ventus' sleep. All I can say is that this is sure to be one of the mysteries that will be dealt with in future titles, but the question is what game will it be.

[Rob 5,571]

I thought about this, but it doesn't mean I needed to make a thread about it. It's been stated the Armor talked to Xemnas, as KH125 and Terranort said.

[oathkeeper89 17]

wow great theory i never thought about that but now that i think about it her armor was the only way for him to have ever found out! i think ur onto somethn here, great thinkin, way to use ur noggin lol!!

[ssceles 134]

It's hard to say what Xemnas remembers and what he doesn't, even though its easy to say what he feels about what he can: nothing.

 

Random 'if' conclusion. IF Xemnas had MX's memories as well as Terra's, it might then be obvious. MX would know that Eraqus would have taught Aqua how the lock the world when she became a Keyblade Master, and, where better a place to hide Ven from him?

 

o_O But I don't necessarily know what to believe - that he does remember his life as MX, or even Terra? Could it be he thinks of himself as in third person and might have memories of both, but chose to live on as neither, combining their wills to formulate new goals that are neither here nor there with MX's original intentions? That's just as likely to me as Aqua's armor talking. I think Xemnas was just talking to himself in that case, but what do I know?

[Slicer9875 27]

I'm not sure, I've asked this question before but there is no clear answer. Maybe it will be covered in BBS Volume II. Did Xemnas maybe meet Aqua at some point? Armors can't talk. The last thing I can think of is Aqua's heart reaching out to Terra's like Terra did to her. Remember, the Put an end to me and Aqua says Terra after she turns the Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion.

[SoraKH 793]

Maybe it was Terra you know!!! Why should Aqua tell to xemnas that things. Maybe it was Terrhanort and Terra won Xeanorth

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Maybe it was Terra you know!!! Why should Aqua tell to xemnas that things. Maybe it was Terrhanort and Terra won Xeanorth

 

Because Terra has absolutely no idea that Ven is asleep in CO.

[Keyblade King 12 486]

...I don't believe I never once thought about this till now. I don't think that Xemnas has any of Aqua's memories, but there might be this connection between Aqua, Terra and Ven that made Xemnas consider the exitence of such a room while he was in Castle Oblivion.

[Keyblade King 12 486]

...I don't believe I never once thought about this till now. I don't think that Xemnas has any of Aqua's memories, but there might be this connection between Aqua, Terra and Ven that made Xemnas consider the exitence of such a room while he was in Castle Oblivion.

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

For the main question, "Does Xehanort have Aqua's memories?" It has been shown in the series that memories are tied to the Heart. I would think Xemnas would need to access to Aqua's heart to get her memories. In Chain Of Memories, Marluxia passed through Sora and said that he sampled his memories, so it might be possible if Xemnas met Aqua for him to get her memories.

[Naroco 26]

I think he was just crazy

 

That doesn't answer anything.

 

It was a joke

[Kinode 3,056]

I've thought of this, but I didn't think anyone would understand. But I believe that he could talk to Aqua in the Room Of Sleep, through her armor.

It's a valid theory for me!

[::Heart_XIII:: 2]

I've thought of this, but I didn't think anyone would understand. But I believe that he could talk to Aqua in the Room Of Sleep, through her armor.

It's a valid theory for me!

 

DAMNIT! I was just about to say that.

 

But these are all interesting theories and everything about the armor and how it talks. I like Kinode's the best though.

[Slicer9875 27]

If Aqua's memories were really accessed by Xemnas or Xehanort, then he would be able to navigate through Castle Oblivion and get Ven easily since he would know the whole layout, right.

[Tails 6,690]

It's hard to say what Xemnas remembers and what he doesn't, even though its easy to say what he feels about what he

Random 'if' conclusion. IF Xemnas had MX's memories as well as Terra's, it might then be obvious. MX would know that Eraqus would have taught Aqua how the lock the world when she became a Keyblade Master, and, where better a place to hide Ven from him?

 

o_O But I don't necessarily know what to believe - that he does remember his life as MX, or even Terra? Could it be he thinks of himself as in third person and might have memories of both, but chose to live on as neither, combining their wills to formulate new goals that are neither here nor there with MX's original intentions? That's just as likely to me as Aqua's armor talking. I think Xemnas was just talking to himself in that case, but what do I know?

Except Xemnas doesn't have too many memories of MX, he's mostly based off Terra. He has more memories of Terra than with MX, the only thing that related him to MX is the "X" in his name as well as putting X's in every Org. memeber's name.

 

For the main question, "Does Xehanort have Aqua's memories?" It has been shown in the series that memories are tied to the Heart. I would think Xemnas would need to access to Aqua's heart to get her memories. In Chain Of Memories, Marluxia passed through Sora and said that he sampled his memories, so it might be possible if Xemnas met Aqua for him to get her memories.

No, Xemnas never obtained any memories of Aqua herself. He only remembers things he DID with Aqua. That's why he keeps that armor in the Chamber of Awakening and calls it his "friend".

[deathrebirthsenshi 279]

Random Crazy Theory: He used Xion to absorb memories from the armor,then she turned into Aqua and told him about where Ven was.

Random Crazy Theory 2: Xion was a replica of Roxas, but was created from Sora's memories, right? So maybe whenever they took data of Roxas, they saw that Ven's heart (or what was left of it) was inside him, and I don't know exactly where I'm going with this, but maybe they were able to find out this way somehow that Ven was in C.O?

Random Crazy Theory 3: Could Aqua and Xemnas have met in the realm of darkness? Or could Terra feel Ven's presence in C.O. because of Terra's connection and then come to he conclusion that the was in that room?

These are just random theories if Aqua's armor didn't tell him, which it probably did somehow. And she would have told him maybe because it just thought it was Terra. And the reason the armor may be able to talk is because when she gave it up to protect Terra, some of her will may have been left behind and it "remembers" the last thing to have happened before Aqua went to confront Terra. Or there was some kind of mechanism to make it talk. Who knows.

[Tails 6,690]

Random Crazy Theory: He used Xion to absorb memories from the armor,then she turned into Aqua and told him about where Ven was.

Except Xion is a REPLICA of Sora MADE from Sora's memories of Kairi. She only obsorbed memories of Sora, Roxas, and Riku.

 

Random Crazy Theory 2: Xion was a replica of Roxas, but was created from Sora's memories, right? So maybe whenever they took data of Roxas, they saw that Ven's heart (or what was left of it) was inside him, and I don't know exactly where I'm going with this, but maybe they were able to find out this way somehow that Ven was in C.O?

I don't know where your exactly going with this either. Because the Org. never took any data of Roxas and possibly discovered Ven's heart. Especially since the Org. and especially Xemnas didn't know Ven's heart rested within Roxas's body. And I've stated many times that somrhow Aqua's armor told Xemnas about where Ven was.

 

 

Random Crazy Theory 3: Could Aqua and Xemnas have met in the realm of darkness? Or could Terra feel Ven's presence in C.O. because of Terra's connection and then come to he conclusion that the was in that room?

No, they never physically met anywhere. And like I just said, Aqua's amor told Xemnas about Ven being in C.O.