The Realm of Light

[AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358]

Now, I know that the Realm of Light is where the main story and characters reside, but does anyone else find it odd that there's not a Realm of Light specifically for Light? I mean, the Realm of Darkness really does seem like Darkness incarnate. And if Light and Darkness truly were at balance, shouldn't there be a similar place for the Realm of Light? You'd also think that people would have to fade into the Light, too. So where would they go?

 

Personally, the game's worlds always seemed more like an In-Between area to me. And the actual In-Between areas seemed closer to the Darkness to me. LOL But seeing as how there wasn't always Darkness in people's heart, you'd think there would have been a different area where they resided. An area closer to the Light.

 

Actually, maybe that's the answer right there. Darkness was born in people's hearts, and things like the Keyblade War happened. In the end, the world was swallowed by Darkness and the children rebuilt it with their Light. Perhaps the Realm of Light was tainted or something. Or maybe the world the children created was made from fragments of the old one. But to me, that makes it seem like the actual worlds are more In-Between.

 

Well, does anyone think there's a Realm of Light similar to the Realm of Darkness? A place where no Darkness exists (well, there'd be a little), even if there's only pieces of it left?

 

Gosh, I wish we knew more of what happened when Sora and Riku stepped through the Door to Light. That probably had answers right there.

 

Anyway, I think a more concrete Realm of Light would be something that would be good to expand the series. But as always, what do you think?

[Kingdomxhearts15 0]

Well to me it seems like the Realm of Light resides within peoples hearts. Like how Kairi's letter somehow made a reaction in Sora's heart and opened the Realm of Light.

[AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358]

Well to me it seems like the Realm of Light resides within peoples hearts. Like how Kairi's letter somehow made a reaction in Sora's heart and opened the Realm of Light.

 

I never thought of that before, but I really like the idea. And it would make sense, actually. The Realm of Light doesn't exist because they forgot the Light within themselves. That seems like something Nomura would do. LOL

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Well the Realm of Light used to be just light, and all one world. But when Darkness was born in people's hearts, it was destroyed, and the children rebuilt it in pieces. So technically yeah, the Realm of Light is tainted.

[deathrebirthsenshi 279]

Basically like the story, the TRUE light exists still somewhere in the darkness. Also, I like the idea that it's still in people's hearts, that makes alot of sense.

 

But I also have my thoughts about the realm of darkness and whether or not it should truly exist...it seems to be made of nothing but heartless that seek hearts, which (as far as I am concerned) they probably do because of back in the keyblade wars when dark beings first sought after kingdom hearts and darkness was born. So could the realm of darkness just be excess darkness left from the wars, surrounding kingdom hearts? Who knows.

 

But do you really mean is there a place where people have no darkness in their heart, as opposed to a realm with only heartless?

[keystrike 145]

Basically like the story, the TRUE light exists still somewhere in the darkness. Also, I like the idea that it's still in people's hearts, that makes alot of sense.

 

But I also have my thoughts about the realm of darkness and whether or not it should truly exist...it seems to be made of nothing but heartless that seek hearts, which (as far as I am concerned) they probably do because of back in the keyblade wars when dark beings first sought after kingdom hearts and darkness was born. So could the realm of darkness just be excess darkness left from the wars, surrounding kingdom hearts? Who knows.

 

But do you really mean is there a place where people have no darkness in their heart, as opposed to a realm with only heartless?

 

Light and darkness are like "two sides of the same coin;" both are also "eternal." The way I see it is that since the beginning of time, kh has resided in both realms as the core of a 3d coin (assuming a normal coin is infinitly flat and it is higher dimensional cretures looking at this coin). Preceding the keyblade wars, greed of the light brought darkness into the world of light and then with the war all fell to darkness. So now because the true light still sleeps deep within the darkness, the realm of light isn't how it used to be.

[khven 0]

remember at the end of kh 2, when the door open and sora says the door to 'light', and it takes them to destiny islands, which could be considered a neutral world/ so maybe light resides in neutral worlds

[keystrike 145]

remember at the end of kh 2, when the door open and sora says the door to 'light', and it takes them to destiny islands, which could be considered a neutral world/ so maybe light resides in neutral worlds

 

I don't quite see how destiny islands could be considered a nuetral world.

 

Anyhow, quite a while ago I remember seeing a theory on why the door to light took them to destiny islands; it had to do with it destiny islands being their home and the dtl would take you back because home is where the heart is? This is just paraphrasing of what i remember.

[ssceles 134]

Trying to ask questions this deep right now is like speculating on creation theory. It's a hard lesson, but victors write history. Light, in it's purest, may be no different than Darkness in the pure, no matter what people believe. The perception of good and evil, right and wrong, might be... what's the word... arbitrary? To put the world into black and white, dark and light, but be a dangerous assumption for the main characters to make. The blindly faithful, no matter how good they think their cause is, lose sight of what's best for everyone in their own ambitions.

 

Mixing theology of the real world with Kingdom Hearts also isn't a good idea, but with introducing a world like Hunchback of Notre Dame it really does concern me. It's one of those controversial Disney films. But you have to remember that in that movie's scenario, it still wasn't the church that was the enemy, it was one pompous, self-righteous vigilante who made himself out to be more important than basic human values. It's bad to make generalizations, one way or the other, the gypsies are people, too! We have a villain who thinks he's in the right in this case.

 

The only reason I brought the last paragraph up in regards to a 'realm of light' theory is that if such a thing exists, it's supporters may be no better than the villains we've seen in the past who worked with the Heartless. The main cast may be fooled into believing they're doing the right thing, and it'll be through Riku's common sense that good and bad don't come down to light and dark. (If we have a Pocahontas world, I can see similar issues: Both sides thought they were in the right.) To compare for a second to real world theology, even darkness can be associated with the goodness of the earth element, mother earth, and new life. There may even be worlds out there where they don't see it in any sort of bad at all.

 

Something Master Xehanort said in Birth by Sleep still draws my attention: "will we be worthy of that light?" He may be working with darkness because it's what he's had on hand, but I think light is his true goal, or may be just as worthwhile in his mind. If perspective alone can make a person right, he's warped enough to think he can justify anything and everything he's ever done for a greater good. And I think that's exactly where his insanity lies, that he thinks he's right, no matter what he does.

 

The worlds have been in some sort of separate harmony since breaking into many worlds, but things have become rather stirred things up, haven't they? I think that if Heartless will be in imbalance, the light itself -may- spring up and take form similar to Heartless to fight back, but I don't think escalating tension is what's best for the worlds. We'll have to wait and see a bit more before I can make real guesses, and even with more information, it'd be very easy to misinterpret. It really comes down to how the creators want to spin it and there are so many ways they can.

 

It's just as likely they'll gloss it all over and try not to make it important. Sora never thinks too hard about what he has to do because he follows his heart, but even he can be lead into risky, stupid situations if he's emotionally upset over his friends.

[AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358]

Trying to ask questions this deep right now is like speculating on creation theory. It's a hard lesson, but victors write history. Light, in it's purest, may be no different than Darkness in the pure, no matter what people believe. The perception of good and evil, right and wrong, might be... what's the word... arbitrary? To put the world into black and white, dark and light, but be a dangerous assumption for the main characters to make. The blindly faithful, no matter how good they think their cause is, lose sight of what's best for everyone in their own ambitions.

 

Mixing theology of the real world with Kingdom Hearts also isn't a good idea, but with introducing a world like Hunchback of Notre Dame it really does concern me. It's one of those controversial Disney films. But you have to remember that in that movie's scenario, it still wasn't the church that was the enemy, it was one pompous, self-righteous vigilante who made himself out to be more important than basic human values. It's bad to make generalizations, one way or the other, the gypsies are people, too! We have a villain who thinks he's in the right in this case.

 

The only reason I brought the last paragraph up in regards to a 'realm of light' theory is that if such a thing exists, it's supporters may be no better than the villains we've seen in the past who worked with the Heartless. The main cast may be fooled into believing they're doing the right thing, and it'll be through Riku's common sense that good and bad don't come down to light and dark. (If we have a Pocahontas world, I can see similar issues: Both sides thought they were in the right.) To compare for a second to real world theology, even darkness can be associated with the goodness of the earth element, mother earth, and new life. There may even be worlds out there where they don't see it in any sort of bad at all.

 

Something Master Xehanort said in Birth by Sleep still draws my attention: "will we be worthy of that light?" He may be working with darkness because it's what he's had on hand, but I think light is his true goal, or may be just as worthwhile in his mind. If perspective alone can make a person right, he's warped enough to think he can justify anything and everything he's ever done for a greater good. And I think that's exactly where his insanity lies, that he thinks he's right, no matter what he does.

 

The worlds have been in some sort of separate harmony since breaking into many worlds, but things have become rather stirred things up, haven't they? I think that if Heartless will be in imbalance, the light itself -may- spring up and take form similar to Heartless to fight back, but I don't think escalating tension is what's best for the worlds. We'll have to wait and see a bit more before I can make real guesses, and even with more information, it'd be very easy to misinterpret. It really comes down to how the creators want to spin it and there are so many ways they can.

 

It's just as likely they'll gloss it all over and try not to make it important. Sora never thinks too hard about what he has to do because he follows his heart, but even he can be lead into risky, stupid situations if he's emotionally upset over his friends.

 

Honestly, I agree with everything you said. Thank you so much for posting your ideas on here:) Personally, I think KH would be even better if they showed "bad guys" could be good (in a way), and that the Light can be corrupted, too. Frollo, as you pointed out, is a great example of this. Since he thought he was doing what was right, since he thought he was doing God's will, he was even more dangerous. There was no limit to what he would have done.

 

I've thought about Xehanort saying that, too. Wouldn't it be odd if despite the way he tried to do things, he ended up being right? Master Xehanort, anyway. Maybe that's the 3D twist! Kidding.

 

Anyway, I think the series needs to expand more for the next saga to work. Questioning what we know about the Light and Darkness would be a good way to do this.

[keystrike 145]

What we know about light and darkness:

-they are "two sides of the same coin" meaning you can't have one without the other

-light casts shadows of negative emotions which darkness holds a close relationship with

-light is what everyone wants, it is precious, and as for darkness, "what else is it but hate and rage [and other negative emotions]?"

 

Corrupted light (aka darkness) was born out of obsession of the light, both master eraqus and xehanort manifest this in their own ways. They hold firm beliefs worth fighting for, even killing for (holy fighting in the real world), but when it comes to people of the true light such as kairi, they have much greater tolerance of the darkness. Want to know who else in the real world has a greater tolerance with idealistic things such as this? Children. The children who rebuilt the lost world.

 

So if the next saga does come down to exploring what we know about darkness and light, it will be questioning the surface level of darkness and light where darkness may be eating away at the person from the inside, seeing that so far we have seen deep down light within the darkness.