Xehanort's Guardian

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I've been thinking The Guardian has appeared with Terra-Xehanort "Ansem" and Riku-Ansem but not with Master Xeanort or Xemnas. It first appeared when he and Aqua fought and if you look at it's face closely it bears a slight resemblance to Master X. I think that the Guardian might in fact be the TRUE form of Xehanort's Heartless and that is what was under the cloak. The Heartless may never have spoken in battle but since it always had a host it didn't need to. So what do you think, does it sound possible?

[Azure Flame 670]

Personally, I've always thought it was the physical manefistation of MX's darkness inside Terra. Like the darkness of his heart took the form of the Guardian, which would make sense because of the battle in the Final Episode. There is a part where you have to dodge the Guardian's attacks and reach Terra. Then with good timing, Aqua and Terra team up to deal a good ammount of damage to the Guardian.

[zeno247naruto12 5]

I think the guardian was master xahanort's keyblade cause when aqua fought terranort the guardian disappeared whenever terranort used the keyblade.

[Tails 6,690]

What Azure Flame said is correct. The Guardian is just a physical manefestation of Xehanort's darkness. Although the Guardian and Xehanort's Heartless are somewhat unrelated to each other, they're not the same person. The Guardian is just a physical manefestation of both Master Xehanort's and Apprentice Xehanort's Heartless. Now as for Xemnas not able to use the Guardian is pretty obvious because of the fact he doesn't truly remember summoning a Heartless of any sort. He's kind of more based on Terra than Master Xehanort seeing as he has more memories of Terra.

 

@Xeno247naruto12, The Guardian is just a living physical manefestation of Xehanort's darkness. It is unrelated to Xehanort's keyblade. Plus, if you've noticed, the Guardian just stands there whenever Terranort attack Aqua with his keyblade.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

What Azure Flame said is correct. The Guardian is just a physical manefestation of Xehanort's darkness. Although the Guardian and Xehanort's Heartless are somewhat unrelated to each other, they're not the same person. The Guardian is just a physical manefestation of both Master Xehanort's and Apprentice Xehanort's Heartless. Now as for Xemnas not able to use the Guardian is pretty obvious because of the fact he doesn't truly remember summoning a Heartless of any sort. He's kind of more based on Terra than Master Xehanort seeing as he has more memories of Terra.

 

@Xeno247naruto12, The Guardian is just a living physical manefestation of Xehanort's darkness. It is unrelated to Xehanort's keyblade. Plus, if you've noticed, the Guardian just stands there whenever Terranort attack Aqua with his keyblade.

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

[Coffeemug 1]

personally i beleive what asure flame said, or at least somthing along the lines of it. i wonder what it was all about in kh1 (before bbs was written, i wanna know the ORIGINAL intention). but does it count as a heartless? if so it's my favorite, if not then world of chaos or invisibles are my favorites. but back on subject, i think it does have somthing to do with xehanort's darkness and the ppl agreeing with this seem to know how to back the theory up so i'll stick to it for the time being.

[Tails 6,690]

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

[TerraRedeemed 255]

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

[Tails 6,690]

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

 

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

 

your still assuming its origin...just so you know.

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

 

 

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

 

your still assuming its origin...just so you know.

 

In what way?

[TerraRedeemed 255]

 

 

 

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

 

your still assuming its origin...just so you know.

 

In what way?

 

Saying someone is absolutely right about something without confirmation from the game or its creator. we dont know what the guardian is.

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

 

 

 

 

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

 

your still assuming its origin...just so you know.

 

In what way?

 

Saying someone is absolutely right about something without confirmation from the game or its creator. we dont know what the guardian is.

 

Agreed.

While I believe the theory that Azure Flame and KingdomHearts125 have put forth is true, it is only a theory at this time.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This guy apparently knows what he's talking about and doesn't need to cite anything. (sarcasm intended)

 

I love it when people are so affirmative and pretend to be experts.

 

I personally believe Xeno could be on to something. But until we are told something official, the guardian remains a mystery.

I love it when there are trolls who is clearly being a hater and has no life and sits on the computer all day trying to insult people (:.Obviously you don't read my posts nor do you even know me at all. What makes you think I am "pretending to be a pro" hmmm? I was just adding on to what Azure said. No need to get snappy. FYI, I know a lot more about KH than you might think. As for the Guardian, Azure had that covered up for the most part. So good day to you, troll. (:

 

Not trolling, i hate people who say "This is correct" with out hard facts. if you had said "this is my opinion" like azure did, then i wouldnt have said anything.

 

i also didnt say "pretending to be pro" i said you had no citation for your assumption.

 

Well, just so you know Azure Flame was right. The Guardian is infact a living, physical manifestation of Xehanort's darkness since it's a pureblood Heartless. All pureblood Heartless are made from darkness itself. So that applies to Guardian as well.

 

Settle down. This is not worth losing tempers on.

What ever The Guardian is, we will learn in time.

 

your still assuming its origin...just so you know.

 

In what way?

 

Saying someone is absolutely right about something without confirmation from the game or its creator. we dont know what the guardian is.

 

Agreed.

While I believe the theory that Azure Flame and KingdomHearts125 have put forth is true, it is only a theory at this time.

 

Precisely.

[Azure Flame 670]

Yes. What I stated was purely speculation on my part. I never intended it to start a fight.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

Yes. What I stated was purely speculation on my part. I never intended it to start a fight.

 

Wasn't your fault. I take the blame.

[Slicer9875 27]

I don't think it's a heartless because Ansem SOD was Terranort's Heartless but I think it was summoned. The keyblades of light have their own power, right. THe keyblades of darkness might be able to connect to the dark realm somehow and bring out denizens of darkness like Red Eyes, the creature Aqua encountered in the realm of darkness.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

I don't think it's a heartless because Ansem SOD was Terranort's Heartless but I think it was summoned. The keyblades of light have their own power, right. THe keyblades of darkness might be able to connect to the dark realm somehow and bring out denizens of darkness like Red Eyes, the creature Aqua encountered in the realm of darkness.

 

The only problem with that is that Master Xehanort's Keyblade is from the Realm of Light itself.

[Azure Flame 670]

The only problem with that is that Master Xehanort's Keyblade is from the Realm of Light itself.

 

This. The only Keyblade from the Realm of Darkness we've seen so far is Kingdom Key Darkside. Every other Keyblade, except the Keyblade of People's hearts, that we've seen is a Keyblade from the realm of Light.

[ssceles 134]

It's sad that all this arguing happens (happened on my first and only thread, as well). People here don't like theories and assume they're right absolutely when someone else brings up a plausible idea. This was never a problem I was faced anywhere but here.

 

I'm going to agree with the poster. Sora_Kuno's thoughts are the same as mine on the matter, even without exact proof. There's a lot we don't know and there's a lot there will probably never be cleared up even if we do a closer look at Terra!nort's stay as an apprentice and fall into darkness.

 

I'd give the exact logic of why I agree, and cite -my- sources, but since the last time I did something as -shocking- as that, I was told I was assuming things when I was quoting from the game itself. =/ Please forgive the members of this forum, as we're not all squabbling adolescents. Drawing conclusions from examples and statements 'set in stone' by characters in the game and the creator himself won't be enough for some people. And for these 'some people', who get to disagree for no reason, I can easily agree with just as little proof.

 

I'm with happy with anyone who can look at Xehanort's Heartless, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, that is, and take full note that he is an -Emblem- Heartless in human form with a large -Pureblood- Heartless attached to him. Considering he has -two- hearts, Terra's and Master Xehanort's, it makes perfect sense to me that the Pureblood is the one who clearly gave up his heart on screen, MX, and the Emblem was Terra's. Sorry if this logic isn't crystal clear, but what proof can you provide otherwise? You think he's wearing that symbol for the fun of it? It's possible. But please explain why he has two bodies if not for the fact he indeed has two hearts.

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

TerraRedeemed Wrote:

Azure Flame Wrote: Yes. What I stated was purely speculation on my part. I never intended it to start a fight.

Wasn't your fault. I take the blame.

Honorably said.

 

I'm with happy with anyone who can look at Xehanort's Heartless, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, that is, and take full note that he is an -Emblem- Heartless in human form with a large -Pureblood- Heartless attached to him. Considering he has -two- hearts, Terra's and Master Xehanort's, it makes perfect sense to me that the Pureblood is the one who clearly gave up his heart on screen, MX, and the Emblem was Terra's. Sorry if this logic isn't crystal clear, but what proof can you provide otherwise? You think he's wearing that symbol for the fun of it? It's possible. But please explain why he has two bodies if not for the fact he indeed has two hearts.

 

Good points, though better received if in a calmer tone. It can be angering when people attack what you say, but it is better to fight those battles with facts, not emotions. I'm not saying what you said is wrong, but if you want to convince people that your view point is right, honey is better than vinegar.

[Kinode 3,056]

I'll just go ahead and agree with Azure flame's first post.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

I'm with happy with anyone who can look at Xehanort's Heartless, Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, that is, and take full note that he is an -Emblem- Heartless in human form with a large -Pureblood- Heartless attached to him. Considering he has -two- hearts, Terra's and Master Xehanort's, it makes perfect sense to me that the Pureblood is the one who clearly gave up his heart on screen, MX, and the Emblem was Terra's. Sorry if this logic isn't crystal clear, but what proof can you provide otherwise? You think he's wearing that symbol for the fun of it? It's possible. But please explain why he has two bodies if not for the fact he indeed has two hearts.

 

Only problem with the is that Emblem's are the artificial heartless Xehanort and the others manufactured. Although i always thought it would be a hilarious twist if Xehanort's heartless was artificial and there were more of them.

 

I also just realized that because of my bickering i hadnt really said what i think the guardian might be. I dont think its a heartless because Xehanort (Terranort) is still a whole person. beyond the facts its possible that it could be terra's darkness in bound form.

[Azure Flame 670]

I also just realized that because of my bickering i hadnt really said what i think the guardian might be. I dont think its a heartless because Xehanort (Terranort) is still a whole person. beyond the facts its possible that it could be terra's darkness in bound form.

 

That's basically what I said, but with Terra rather than Xehanort. However, it doesn't make sense that it would be Terra's darkness. Why would Terra and Aqua fight it near the end of the battle if it was Terra's darkness? And why would it be helping Xehanort? Darkness itself isn't evil, just look at Riku. Terra's darkness would be just like himself. Xehanort's darkness makes more sense to me.