replika13 455 Posted March 7, 2011 i have theorie of them two. when sora attakc at himself with keyblade oPH roxas were born and vens heart been released too. i think that same point,vens body dissappears at chamber of waking. this leads to think that ven is complete now. but there is two other things... 1.he is a nobody,because he have parts of soras heart. 2.or maybe xemnas were mistaken. maybe reason that roxas dont have memories,is because vens heart dont remember anything after final battle of vanitas. and thing is that roxas is ven. just a theorie so dont be mad cows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bnorov 0 Posted March 7, 2011 ooooh man my head hurts from thinking it all over again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted March 7, 2011 Roxas isn't Ven When Sora released his heart, he also released Kairi and Ven's hearts, creating Namine and Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven, but has Sora's memories. If he was Ventus, then when Xemnas found Roxas and renamed him, the letters wouldn't have said Sora. Roxas could be half Ven's nobody and half Sora's though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote Roxas isn't Ven When Sora released his heart, he also released Kairi and Ven's hearts, creating Namine and Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven, but has Sora's memories. If he was Ventus, then when Xemnas found Roxas and renamed him, the letters wouldn't have said Sora. Roxas could be half Ven's nobody and half Sora's though. then how do you explain disappearence of vens bodyxemnas would just mistake if ven/roxas just say his true name is sora. and that roxas is half of both is good theorie too and i dont think those letters live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steph102689 0 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote Quote Roxas isn't Ven When Sora released his heart, he also released Kairi and Ven's hearts, creating Namine and Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven, but has Sora's memories. If he was Ventus, then when Xemnas found Roxas and renamed him, the letters wouldn't have said Sora. Roxas could be half Ven's nobody and half Sora's though. then how do you explain disappearence of vens bodyxemnas would just mistake if ven/roxas just say his true name is sora. and that roxas is half of both is good theorie too and i dont think those letters live i feel the same way sometimes since aqua left vens body in CO and the organization might have found ven there and seeing the resemblance between sora they decided to call him roxas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote i have theorie of them two. when sora attakc at himself with keyblade oPH roxas were born and vens heart been released too. i think that same point,vens body dissappears at chamber of waking. this leads to think that ven is complete now. but there is two other things... 1.he is a nobody,because he have parts of soras heart. 2.or maybe xemnas were mistaken. maybe reason that roxas dont have memories,is because vens heart dont remember anything after final battle of vanitas. and thing is that roxas is ven. just a theorie so dont be mad cows. Grammer please; it makes it hard to read. Also: -a nobody is a body and soul, not a heart -Sora's short time as a heartless is the reason that Roxas has very few memories Interviews have confirmed this all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote then how do you explain disappearence of vens body xemnas would just mistake if ven/roxas just say his true name is sora. and that roxas is half of both is good theorie too and i dont think those letters live Ven's body didn't actually dissappear. That was just something they put in the secret ending for show. If you pay attention to the video, before Ven dissappears, Sora dissappears. Why does every body keep forgetting that crucial detail? Anywho, when Sora stabbed himself he released his and Kairi's hearts. Ven's heart stayed inside his body when it turned into Roxas. Because Ven's heart was in Sora's body during the creation of Roxas, Roxas took Ven's appearance. However, if Ven's heart had left Sora's body, it wouldn't return to it after it became Roxas. It would return to Ven's body in CO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358 Posted March 7, 2011 I agree with Azure Flame. I also heard an interesting theory somewhere that Ven might have purposefully made Roxas look like him. That way if people knew of Ven, and they knew that Roxas was Sora's Nobody, they'd realize there was a connection between the two. Basically the theory was that Ven was trying to tell people where his heart was. Of course this is just a theory, so it's most likely untrue. Still interesting though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterAqua 0 Posted March 7, 2011 If Ven's heart stayed with roxas then if ven wakes up, will he remember all the things roxas went through? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote If Ven's heart stayed with roxas then if ven wakes up, will he remember all the things roxas went through? Possibly. We don't know until it happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted March 7, 2011 Quote Roxas isn't Ven When Sora released his heart, he also released Kairi and Ven's hearts, creating Namine and Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven, but has Sora's memories. If he was Ventus, then when Xemnas found Roxas and renamed him, the letters wouldn't have said Sora. Roxas could be half Ven's nobody and half Sora's though. Ventus' heart was never released, if it was there would have been another heart floating away. Ventus' heart stayed in Sora's body which became Roxas, and in turn caused Sora's nobody to look like Ventus. Originally Roxas would have looked like Sora, but Heart's are like a blue print, it makes up the characteristics and appearances of a person. Since Ventus' heart was inside Roxas at the time, and Nobodies don't have hearts, it was the only heart to have effect on Sora's Body, which in turn caused Roxas to look like Ventus. Ventus' body is still inside CO, it never left. It wouldn't make sense if it left either, because that would leave to wonder who was Sora's Nobody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replika13 455 Posted March 8, 2011 but roxas thinked he have a heart... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted March 8, 2011 Quote but roxas thinked he have a heart... Because he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted March 11, 2011 Quote but roxas thinked he have a heart... Well, he didn't actually think that, but he did have a heart though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted March 11, 2011 /facepalm MY theory: Ventus=Ventus Roxas= Sora's nobody. The reason he resembles Ven is because Ven was inside Sora's heart, and when he bacame a heartless, a fragment of Ventus's heart went with Roxas, explaining WHY he can feel ad use the Keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted March 12, 2011 Quote /facepalm MY theory: Ventus=Ventus Roxas= Sora's nobody. The reason he resembles Ven is because Ven was inside Sora's heart, and when he bacame a heartless, a fragment of Ventus's heart went with Roxas, explaining WHY he can feel ad use the Keyblade. Exactly what do you mean by fragment? That could mean a bunch of things. I know you mean a fragment of Ventus' heart but still, that is vague. While what you said is true, I don't think it was just a fragment, I think it was all of it, after all, other than splitting the Darkness and Light of a Heart in two, I don't believe you can fragment a heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnHeiressofaSOLDIER 358 Posted March 19, 2011 So I just remembered something that Nomura said that proves Roxas had Ven's heart. The reason Roxas passes out in C.O. is because he gets too close to his other existences. Ven is there, but hidden. Also, Sora had been there earlier. It's for this reason Roxas passes out. So I think this pretty much confirms Roxas had Ven's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites