Ultimate Oblivion 52 Posted February 27, 2011 they say org 13 wants hearts but they dont have a heart so why they say they want 1. P.S. sorry if there is a similar question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkchaser 788 Posted February 27, 2011 cuz if they had a heart they would be whole again also welcome to KH13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultimate Oblivion 52 Posted February 27, 2011 but it seems like xemnas wants only power from kh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, Xemnas wanted to gather hearts to make Kingdom Hearts and take the power for himelf, however, he convinced the other members that if they make Kingdom Hearts, they'll get their hearts back. That's what all the other members believed. Xemnas tricked them all so he could get the power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffeemug 1 Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, Xemnas wanted to gather hearts to make Kingdom Hearts and take the power for himelf, however, he convinced the other members that if they make Kingdom Hearts, they'll get their hearts back. That's what all the other members believed. Xemnas tricked them all so he could get the power. ^this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultimate Oblivion 52 Posted February 27, 2011 but xemnas also seems he wants a heart when riku, sora,donald and goofy thrashed him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 27, 2011 but xemnas also seems he wants a heart when riku, sora,donald and goofy thrashed him Not really, just wanted to complete Kingdom Hearts so he could be really powerful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zexion123 2 Posted February 27, 2011 but xemnas also seems he wants a heart when riku, sora,donald and goofy thrashed him Not really, just wanted to complete Kingdom Hearts so he could be really powerful. Yeah, it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Keeper 687 Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, Xemnas wanted to gather hearts to make Kingdom Hearts and take the power for himelf, however, he convinced the other members that if they make Kingdom Hearts, they'll get their hearts back. That's what all the other members believed. Xemnas tricked them all so he could get the power. OMG thanks I never relized that they all got tricked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 27, 2011 Like Azure Flame said he just wanted power from Kingdom Hearts. He could care less about being whole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 27, 2011 The truth is Xemnas and Roxas both have hearts proving that getting hearts wouldn't make them whole. Although, I think Xigbar may have known the truth. He's Xemnas' right hand man and knows all about Xemnas and his plans, plus I don't think I ever heard Xigbar say he wanted a heart but I believe he did say he wanted power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted February 27, 2011 Xemnas doesn't have a heart. He also became a nobody, just like all the organization members. He was one of the apprentices and they all became nobodies, so I don't see your theory very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumberXIII.Roxas 64 Posted February 27, 2011 We don't know that Xemnas has a heart. Also, being No. 2 doesn't make him Xemnas' right hand man, just cuz he was Xehanort's. Saix was his second, even though he was also tricked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
::Heart_XIII:: 2 Posted February 27, 2011 The truth is Xemnas and Roxas both have hearts proving that getting hearts wouldn't make them whole. Although, I think Xigbar may have known the truth. He's Xemnas' right hand man and knows all about Xemnas and his plans, plus I don't think I ever heard Xigbar say he wanted a heart but I believe he did say he wanted power. Ok, where on earth did you get that from? Not trying to be mean or anything, but I'm just curious. ._.; And Xigbar didn't say he wanted power (at least from what I know of). I do know that BRAIG wanted power though. That's why he wanted a keyblade. So he could have power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 27, 2011 Find some interviews you people! Xemnas, Roxas and Namine all have hearts in their bodies. Roxas has Ventus. Xemnas has Terra. Namine has uncomfirmed. (I hate having to explain that every time.) The thing about Braig was just something I was thinking of, because to me I think he knew all along, as he was the one who started helping out Xehanort remembering his evil plans, when his memories were wiped. So to me, Xemnas and Xigbar were in on it. Nobody else. People think Saix is Xemnas' right hand man for some reason, but really he isn't. I don't know why people think that. I believe it's because in KH2 it was shown that Xemnas seemed to pass on his orders via Saix and stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted February 27, 2011 Roxas doesn't have a whole heart. Terra's isn't FULLY confirmed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Severe 1,137 Posted February 27, 2011 I always thought Xemnas wanted a heart too, and here I found out he was thirsty for power all along. Hey, you learn something new everyday, I guess. Roxas has Ventus's heart, I think. Namine probably has a heart. Y'know, cuz she's got that thing with Roxas. I doubt Xemnas has a heart. He seemed pretty cold to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 27, 2011 Xemnas does have a heart. That much is confirmed. However, the only emotions he's shown are anger and hate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 27, 2011 Dude were are you getting this info? Ansem SOD dosent have a heart and he's a HEARTLESS. Xemnas does NOT HAVE A HEART! Yen Sid (Explanation of the Nobodies)- "Nobodies dont have hearts, but they pretend too". And Roxas doesnt have Ven's heart because that would mean he has a heart and isnt a Nobodie. Sora has Ven's heart. And Namine doesnt have a heart either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted February 27, 2011 True, Xemnas DOES show Anger and Hate. he even says it on the final battle: "Anger and hate are supreme." Yet, he never does show emotion. I never DID see Xemnas angry out of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted February 27, 2011 And Xigbar didn't say he wanted power (at least from what I know of). I do know that BRAIG wanted power though. That's why he wanted a keyblade. So he could have power. I'm pretty sure that Braig was just pulling an act on Terra, after all, the fight was set up by Xehanort and Braig. Now I'm pretty sure that if Braig could have gotten a Keyblade from that fight, he would have taken the chance, but I think that he wasn't doing it for that. I'm not entirely sure about his motives, so I might be wrong about the Keyblade thing, so don't quote me on all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 27, 2011 Can someone please direct to this interview were Nomura confirmed Xemnas, Roxas, and Namine have hearts. And I dont understand how Xemnas could have a heart if Ansem SOD doesnt have a heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted February 27, 2011 Can someone please direct to this interview were Nomura confirmed Xemnas, Roxas, and Namine have hearts. And I dont understand how Xemnas could have a heart if Ansem SOD doesnt have a heart. Xemnas and Namine have never been confirmed to have a heart, not that I know of anyways, but Roxas does, though I'm too lazy at the moment to explain so someone else will have to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 27, 2011 Dude were are you getting this info? Ansem SOD dosent have a heart and he's a HEARTLESS. Xemnas does NOT HAVE A HEART! Yen Sid (Explanation of the Nobodies)- "Nobodies dont have hearts, but they pretend too". And Roxas doesnt have Ven's heart because that would mean he has a heart and isnt a Nobodie. Sora has Ven's heart. And Namine doesnt have a heart either. Ansem SoD IS the heart. Heartless are formed from a heart when it's swallowed by darkness. Darkness surrounds the heart, turning it into a Heartless. That is why, when you kill a Heartless, a heart comes out of it. That signifies that the heart has been freed. Roxas does have Ven's heart, because when Sora released his and Kairi's hearts, Ven's stayed behind in Sora's body. Sora's body turned into a Nobody, which was Roxas. Ven's heart was still inside it, and influenced part of Roxas' created, namely his look. That is why Roxas looks like Ven, because he has Ven's heart. As for Xemnas and Namine having hearts and the 'interview' that proves this, I would say it's wrong until someone actually posts said 'interview. Xemnas is Terranort's Nobody, as Ansem SoD is his Heartless. Ansem SoD is created from both Terra and Xehanort's hearts and, I believe, Ansem SoD is Terra's heart, while the Guardian is Xehanort's heart. However, that's just my theory. Still, there is no heart left over for Xemnas to have. As for Namine, she is a special Nobody in the case that she shouldn't even exist at all, even more so than regular Nobodies. My reasoning for this is back on Destiny Islands, Kairi's heart goes into Sora and her body remains the same, since she didn't get a Heartless, which is required for a Nobody. Riku finds her body and takes it with him. Then, at Hollow Bastion, Sora releases his and Kairi's hearts. Kairi's heart returns to her body and Sora's becomes a Heartless, Ven's stays in Sora's body and helps create Roxas. At the same time, Namine is created. I believe that the requirement for a Heartless was met in Sora's Heartless, as his and Kairi's hearts were either connected, or right next to eachother. So Kairi got a Nobody. However, Kairi's body stayed the same, therefore, what was Namine made from? She is a Nobody that wasn't made from an empty body, I believe she was made from nothingness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites