Keyblade_Wielder 0 Posted February 24, 2011 I REMEBER reading a theory before bbs was realeased that roxas is ventus because when sora makes his nobody ventus was in his heart and whent in to roxas or something is that true or roxas just looks like ventus because ven is in soras heart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 24, 2011 Roxas looks like Ven because when Sora released his and Kairi's hearts, Ven's heart stayed in his body, which then turned into Roxas. The heart is sort of like a blueprint for how the body forms, so since Ven's heart was still there, Roxas took the form of Ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 24, 2011 Basically what Azure Flame said. Be careful when you say Ventus was in his heart. The heart can't have anything in it like another person's heart. A body can. So basically, with a heart Roxas looks like Ventus. It's not always the case however. Xehanort has Terra's heart and yet doesn't look like Terra. He looks like Xehanort. The wierd combo of MX and Terra. It's an odd thing and I bet we won't have it explained to us properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lanxum 0 Posted February 24, 2011 I believe it makes perfect sense. Since the Nobody is the body without a heart then Ven was used because his essence was in Sora. Also Axel looks exactly like Lea because it was his body without a heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 24, 2011 Sorry I meant Xemnas has Terra's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iamkingdomhearts1000 1,170 Posted February 24, 2011 Sorry I meant Xemnas has Terra's heart. no i think xemnas is terra's body since nobodies don't have hearts remember? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathrebirthsenshi 279 Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah, basically what the first person said. I feel compelled to not that he was almost definately Sora's nobody; he just happened to have ven's fractured heart. He had too many connections to Sora to literally be Ven, at least in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J. Severe 1,137 Posted February 24, 2011 Ventus's heart was hidden inside Sora's heart. When he opened his heart to let Kairi's heart out, he let out Ventus's heart, which went and created Roxas. Or something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 24, 2011 Ventus's heart was hidden inside Sora's heart. When he opened his heart to let Kairi's heart out, he let out Ventus's heart, which went and created Roxas. Or something like that. No. Ven's heart was in Sora's body, not his heart. And Ven's heart didn't leave Sora's body, it stayed inside as the body turned into Roxas. If Ven's heart had left Sora, it would have returned to Ven's body, like Kairi's heart did to her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade King 12 486 Posted February 24, 2011 Azure Flame is right again. Look at the cutscene. Only Kairi's heart leaves Sora's body. Not Ventus'. And @ Iamkingdomhearts I am not going into the whole Xehanort family thing! If you people want to know look up a few of Tetsuya's interviews and other KH material. Terra's heart remained inside of his body. MX's heart was the one that became a heartless. Don't know how many times I've had to say that and I've been on this site for like 10 days! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Codeman1346 2 Posted February 25, 2011 Azure Flame is right again. Look at the cutscene. Only Kairi's heart leaves Sora's body. Not Ventus'. And @ Iamkingdomhearts I am not going into the whole Xehanort family thing! If you people want to know look up a few of Tetsuya's interviews and other KH material. Terra's heart remained inside of his body. MX's heart was the one that became a heartless. Don't know how many times I've had to say that and I've been on this site for like 10 days! Except for the fact that Namora has mentioned that it could be paussible for Terra's heart to be inside Riku because of Ansem's inhabitance inside him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 25, 2011 They should make a book or encyclopedia about Kingdom Hearts because this is a little cliche. But I agree with Azure Flame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xinname 1 Posted February 25, 2011 but i thought for sure roxas had a heart this is all very confusing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumberXIII.Roxas 64 Posted February 25, 2011 but i thought for sure roxas had a heart this is all very confusing. He does. Ven's heart. It stayed in Sora's body when it became Roxas, making him look like Ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kragose 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Roxas looks like Ven because when Sora released his and Kairi's hearts, Ven's heart stayed in his body, which then turned into Roxas. The heart is sort of like a blueprint for how the body forms, so since Ven's heart was still there, Roxas took the form of Ven. I don't really understand this, if Ventus's heart was seperate from Sora's heart then how does Roxas looks like Ventus's body if Ventus's heart was unaffected? I thought Ventus's heart was melded with Sora's or "Inside" of Sora's, so that's why Roxas looks like him because Ventus's heart was temporarily released along with Sora's? And if Ventus's heart was inside of Sora, while Sora released his and Kairi's heart, how did Sora's body turn into a Heartless if Ven's heart was still in there? His body should've just looked like Ventus's while Sora's and Kairi's heart was out. (EDIT: I'm asking this, not telling this... big difference.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 25, 2011 Like I said this is all cliche. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 25, 2011 I don't really understand this, if Ventus's heart was seperate from Sora's heart then how does Roxas looks like Ventus's body if Ventus's heart was unaffected? I thought Ventus's heart was melded with Sora's or "Inside" of Sora's, so that's why Roxas looks like him because Ventus's heart was temporarily released along with Sora's? And if Ventus's heart was inside of Sora, while Sora released his and Kairi's heart, how did Sora's body turn into a Heartless if Ven's heart was still in there? His body should've just looked like Ventus's while Sora's and Kairi's heart was out. (EDIT: I'm asking this, not telling this... big difference.) It's not your body that turns into a Heartless, it's your heart. The Heart gets enveloped in darkness and turns into a Heartless. The body that's left behind becomes a Nobody. Ven's heart was still inside Sora, so when Sora's body turned into Roxas, Ven's heart changed it to look like Ven, which is why Roxas looks like Ven. Ven and Sora's hearts were next to eachother, and Kairi's was next to them as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Razorwind Keyblade 304 Posted February 25, 2011 That sounds like it makes more sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kragose 0 Posted February 25, 2011 I don't really understand this, if Ventus's heart was seperate from Sora's heart then how does Roxas looks like Ventus's body if Ventus's heart was unaffected? I thought Ventus's heart was melded with Sora's or "Inside" of Sora's, so that's why Roxas looks like him because Ventus's heart was temporarily released along with Sora's? And if Ventus's heart was inside of Sora, while Sora released his and Kairi's heart, how did Sora's body turn into a Heartless if Ven's heart was still in there? His body should've just looked like Ventus's while Sora's and Kairi's heart was out. (EDIT: I'm asking this, not telling this... big difference.) It's not your body that turns into a Heartless, it's your heart. The Heart gets enveloped in darkness and turns into a Heartless. The body that's left behind becomes a Nobody. Ven's heart was still inside Sora, so when Sora's body turned into Roxas, Ven's heart changed it to look like Ven, which is why Roxas looks like Ven. Ven and Sora's hearts were next to eachother, and Kairi's was next to them as well. Ohhh is that why Roxas has "feelings"? because technically he has a heart? (So Sora got a "new body" since his old is the nobody? that's kind've weird. lol) Also, so at the end of Kingdom Hearts Sora "absorbed" Roxas, does that mean that Ventus's heart is back inside of Sora's then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 25, 2011 Ohhh is that why Roxas has "feelings"? because technically he has a heart? (So Sora got a "new body" since his old is the nobody? that's kind've weird. lol) Also, so at the end of Kingdom Hearts Sora "absorbed" Roxas, does that mean that Ventus's heart is back inside of Sora's then? Yes, that is why Roxas has feelings. As for Sora, Kairi created a body-like shell to hold Sora's heart. Technically, Sora was a Hearless from the time he lost his heart until the begining of KH2, when Roxas combined with Sora again at the end of the 6th day. Yes, Ven's heart is back in Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kragose 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Sorry for all the questions, but on the kingdom hearts wiki entry, it says that Ventus's heart going inside of Sora is the reason Sora is able to use the Keyblade... but how does Sora use the keyblade if Ventus's heart is left behind in his "old" body? and no longer connected with Sora's heart. (Disconnected between the end of Kingdom Hearts and the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II) (Also, thanks for all of the answers, I love this series so I obviously love understanding it better. ^^) Edit: Man, looking at the wiki it kind of contradicts itself. on one post it says that Sora is able to use the keyblade because Ventus is in his heart, but on another post it says that Sora gets the keyblade because it was meant for Riku (because of the ceremony Terra did on him), but it went to Sora because Riku already succumbed to darkness on Destiny Island. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted February 25, 2011 Sorry for all the questions, but on the kingdom hearts wiki entry, it says that Ventus's heart going inside of Sora is the reason Sora is able to use the Keyblade... but how does Sora use the keyblade if Ventus's heart is left behind in his "old" body? and no longer connected with Sora's heart. (Disconnected between the end of Kingdom Hearts and the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II) (Also, thanks for all of the answers, I love this series so I obviously love understanding it better. ^^) Man, looking at the wiki it kind of contradicts itself. on one post it says that Sora is able to use the keyblade because Ventus is in his heart, but on another post it says that Sora gets the keyblade because it was meant for Riku (because of the ceremony Terra did on him), but it went to Sora because Riku already succumbed to darkness on Destiny Island. Don't trust wiki's, anyone can change them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kragose 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Well I guess Sora getting the Keyblade because Riku was succumbed to darkness on Destiny Islands is the real reason then, because Sora getting the Keyblade from Ventus wouldn't match up because there would be a gap in the story where Sora wouldn't be able to wield the Keyblade, while Roxas was roaming around with Ventus's heart. I was personally hoping that Sora's ability to wield the Keyblade was because of Ventus resting inside of him, I thought that made for a more interesting story plot. It would've been cool if they did it this way, and made Sora able to wield his own Keyblade by doing the Mark of the Mastery or something along those lines. I guess there's no reason in talking about it anymore since it isn't true though. (Thanks again for clarifying some key-plot points for me though, I appreciate it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade_Wielder 0 Posted February 25, 2011 thanks for writing everybody i agree with azure because i had that theory too i just wrote this one to see if its true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strife 0 Posted February 25, 2011 Actually the theorie that Sora could use the keyblade because of ventus can still be right. Like most of the times we dont get clear answers how things work in KH like how to pass on a keyblade. The ceremony was something like "in this hand take this key, so long u have the making and through this simple act of taking, its wielder u shall one day be". So a theorie how to pass on a keyblade is just that u have to hold a keyblade once and u need to have the right makings. So maybe sora could sommon the keyblade because of ven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
