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[matts-grey-zone 12]

sorry people if this sounds dumb, but will the unversed return in this or any game. they were a cool idea and I don't think Nomura would just get rid of them

 

the title was meant to be will the sorry , I'm new here

[rikunobodyxiii 700]

While the source of the Unversed has been destroyed, it is not to far fetched to have a new source for them to spring from. Hey, MX might bring 'um back.

[Kinode 3,056]

maybe if Vanitas is brought back.

[Master Keeper 687]

Vanitas well come back if Ventus come back that mean : yes the unversed will come back

[matts-grey-zone 12]

While the source of the Unversed has been destroyed, it is not to far fetched to have a new source for them to spring from. Hey, MX might bring 'um back.

 

I like this idea, thank you

 

maybe if Vanitas is brought back.

 

why do you think that?

 

Vanitas well come back if Ventus come back that mean : yes the unversed will come back

 

but Ventus's heart would be whole no need for Vanitas

[Rob 5,571]

If you played BBS your question would be answered.

[matts-grey-zone 12]

If you played BBS your question would be answered.

 

I have but it is still possible if you ask me

[Rob 5,571]

 

If you played BBS your question would be answered.

 

I have but it is still possible if you ask me

 

Not if Ven is saved in KH3D, which I highly doubt.

[Keyblade King 12 486]

If KH3D really is a dream, controlled by Master Yen Sid, then there's a possibility that Vanitas may make an appearance, wether we fight the lesser Unversed, I would doubt it.

[::Heart_XIII:: 2]

If KH3D really is a dream, controlled by Master Yen Sid, then there's a possibility that Vanitas may make an appearance, wether we fight the lesser Unversed, I would doubt it.

 

That is true. He may or may not.

 

As for the Unversed, who knows.

Personally, I doubt it, but with how little has been released about KH3D, it's a possibility.

[Azure Flame 670]

Without Vanitas, the Unversed will not come back. The Unversed are just Vanitas' negative emotions, and Vanitas is the physical manifestation of Ven's darkness. Ven's heart has become whole again, so Vanitas is gone for good, unless Nomura finds some way to bring him back.

[Keyblader 325]

Without Vanitas, the Unversed will not come back. The Unversed are just Vanitas' negative emotions, and Vanitas is the physical manifestation of Ven's darkness. Ven's heart has become whole again, so Vanitas is gone for good, unless Nomura finds some way to bring him back.

 

Well, while that is true, there could be another event like with how Vanitas came to be, and might cause that new person of darkness to spawn Unversed based on his/her negative emotions.

[Tails 6,692]

 

Without Vanitas, the Unversed will not come back. The Unversed are just Vanitas' negative emotions, and Vanitas is the physical manifestation of Ven's darkness. Ven's heart has become whole again, so Vanitas is gone for good, unless Nomura finds some way to bring him back.

 

Well, while that is true, there could be another event like with how Vanitas came to be, and might cause that new person of darkness to spawn Unversed based on his/her negative emotions.

 

That's highly unlikely to happen. Like Azure said, the only way for the Unversed to feed off people's negative emotions is if Vanitas was stilk alive. So I don't see how there's another way for the Unversed to return.

 

@Azure Flame, welk it is confirmed that Vanitas's Remnentis canon to the series. So maybe Nomura wilk have the Remnent play a role that will probably lead to Vanitas's return.

[Azure Flame 670]

That's highly unlikely to happen. Like Azure said, the only way for the Unversed to feed off people's negative emotions is if Vanitas was stilk alive. So I don't see how there's another way for the Unversed to return.

I think that Keyblader means a new Vanitas appears, like the darkness of someone else's heart is extracted and becomes a person.

[Keyblader 325]

 

That's highly unlikely to happen. Like Azure said, the only way for the Unversed to feed off people's negative emotions is if Vanitas was stilk alive. So I don't see how there's another way for the Unversed to return.

I think that Keyblader means a new Vanitas appears, like the darkness of someone else's heart is extracted and becomes a person.

 

That's exactly what I meant. Using, say Sora, as an example, supposing that Master Xehanort or someone released the darkness from Sora's heart and that Darkness became another whole person, then maybe that person would be like Vanitas, being able to control Unversed because of the fact that he/she (I say he/she just because it could be anyone that get's his/her darkness released from them, not as if Sora's dark counter part would be a girl, lol) is pure darkness (Though it isn't because the dark counter part is pure darkness but because of the extreme amount of negative emotions, but I'm just stating the obvious)

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Why are people saying that Ven's heart is whole again? As far as I've seen, we have absolutely no confirmation of that. Strictly speaking, without the darkness from his heart existing anywhere, his heart can't be whole.

[Keyblader 325]

Why are people saying that Ven's heart is whole again? As far as I've seen, we have absolutely no confirmation of that. Strictly speaking, without the darkness from his heart existing anywhere, his heart can't be whole.

 

And if his heart was whole then I don't think his heart would have needed to go rest inside Sora.

[Azure Flame 670]

Well, they combined and formed the X-blade, though it wasn't perfect. Ven defeated Vanitas and destroyed the X-blade, thus they became whole, though the process left Ven's heart weak. That's why it needed to go to Sora.

 

That's what I believe, anyways.

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Well, they combined and formed the X-blade, though it wasn't perfect. Ven defeated Vanitas and destroyed the X-blade, thus they became whole, though the process left Ven's heart weak. That's why it needed to go to Sora.

 

That's what I believe, anyways.

 

Because the union wasn't complete, I don't think their hearts fully merged back together, which would mean that if the X-Blade was destroyed their hearts would be affected separately, meaning Ven's heart would still be fractured, thus the title of the cutscene, "The Fractured Heart's Return".

[Tails 6,692]

I think that Keyblader means a new Vanitas appears, like the darkness of someone else's heart is extracted and becomes a person.

But still, even that seems impossible for that to happen. Yes, your heart has to be extracted for that to happen. But not through someone else. That doesn't seem like it would work.

 

Well, they combined and formed the X-blade, though it wasn't perfect. Ven defeated Vanitas and destroyed the X-blade, thus they became whole, though the process left Ven's heart weak. That's why it needed to go to Sora.

 

That's what I believe, anyways.

Let me restate that for you. The reason why the X-Blade wasn't complete was because Ven and Vanitas didn't forge completely mentally. When Ven defeated and destroyed both Vanitas and the X-Blade it caused his heart to become weak and disconnected again. So his heart had to find a vessel once again in order for it to be repaired. Which, in this case, was Sora since he happily accepted Ven inside his body.

 

Because the union wasn't complete, I don't think their hearts fully merged back together, which would mean that if the X-Blade was destroyed their hearts would be affected separately, meaning Ven's heart would still be fractured, thus the title of the cutscene, "The Fractured Heart's Return".

Actually, their when they forged with each other both their hearts were completed. But the reason why we saw it wasn't complete inside Ven and Vanitas's hearts was because it wasn't complete mentally as I said before. And yes, once Ven destroyed the X-Blade it did affect them both. Vanitas got destroyed in the process of the X-Blade's destruction. And Ven's heart was damaged again and was spared thanks to the fact that his heart was still merged with Sora's.

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Because the union wasn't complete, I don't think their hearts fully merged back together, which would mean that if the X-Blade was destroyed their hearts would be affected separately, meaning Ven's heart would still be fractured, thus the title of the cutscene, "The Fractured Heart's Return".

Actually, their when they forged with each other both their hearts were completed. But the reason why we saw it wasn't complete inside Ven and Vanitas's hearts was because it wasn't complete mentally as I said before. And yes, once Ven destroyed the X-Blade it did affect them both. Vanitas got destroyed in the process of the X-Blade's destruction. And Ven's heart was damaged again and was spared thanks to the fact that his heart was still merged with Sora's.

 

I don't think there was anything mental involved in that situation. It's all in the heart. Their minds had nothing to do with it. Meaning their hearts were not fully completed.

 

And Ven's heart was not merged with Sora's at that time, merely connected. In fact, strictly speaking, their hearts were never actually "merged", one just sheltered the other, but only after Ven lost his.

 

And as for the whole new Vanitas thing, I really don't get where you're going with not being able to. He's saying that the process could be repeated with someone new, creating a new Vanitas-type being. Perfectly reasonable.

[Tails 6,692]

I don't think there was anything mental involved in that situation. It's all in the heart. Their minds had nothing to do with it. Meaning their hearts were not fully completed.

 

 

And Ven's heart was not merged with Sora's at that time, merely connected. In fact, strictly speaking, their hearts were never actually "merged", one just sheltered the other, but only after Ven lost his.

That's what I mean.

 

And as for the whole new Vanitas thing, I really don't get where you're going with not being able to. He's saying that the process could be repeated with someone new, creating a new Vanitas-type being. Perfectly reasonable.

Which is what i don't get. How can it be reasonable? For one, it got confirmed that Vanitas Remnent is canon to the series. So Nomura will probably tell us how that might revive Vanitas. But I'm not sure how that will happen so we'll just have to wait until Nomura fills us in on it. And second of all, Vanitas got destroyed completely. there's no other way for him to randomly coming through someone else's darkness. That just doesn't seem possible nor does it make sense. the only possible other way I see him coming back is his Remnent maybe.

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

And as for the whole new Vanitas thing, I really don't get where you're going with not being able to. He's saying that the process could be repeated with someone new, creating a new Vanitas-type being. Perfectly reasonable.

Which is what i don't get. How can it be reasonable? For one, it got confirmed that Vanitas Remnent is canon to the series. So Nomura will probably tell us how that might revive Vanitas. But I'm not sure how that will happen so we'll just have to wait until Nomura fills us in on it. And second of all, Vanitas got destroyed completely. there's no other way for him to randomly coming through someone else's darkness. That just doesn't seem possible nor does it make sense. the only possible other way I see him coming back is his Remnent maybe.

 

See, now that's what we're not saying. Nothing was said about Vanitas himself returning through someone else, only someone like him, a being of pure darkness taking human form the same way Vanitas did. Not Vanitas. Someone entirely new made the same way.

 

And the Remnant has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Tails 6,692]

See, now that's what we're not saying. Nothing was said about Vanitas himself returning through someone else, only someone like him, a being of pure darkness taking human form the same way Vanitas did. Not Vanitas. Someone entirely new made the same way.

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And the Remnant has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. Nomura confirmed it in one of his interviews that Vanitas's Remnent is canon to the KH series.

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

And the Remnant has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. Nomura confirmed it in one of his interviews that Vanitas's Remnent is canon to the KH series.

 

Yes but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about, namely an entirely different person.

 

All we're saying is that when Vanitas was born, through Ven's extracted darkness, the unversed were spawned. Well if that process were to be repeated on someone else, a being similar to Vanitas would be born, and the unversed would possibly return as an extension of that person's emotions, just like they were with Vanitas.