Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 Plus Yuffie's story is almost entirely different tooYeah but those are the blunt points it's not the finer detailsI just think people get really uppity about Aeirth dying when they don't extend that same feeling to other egregious things Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 I will give you Yuffie, that one is very different. But I think so far it hasn't really changed anything yet in the broader sense. Mostly just introduce Deep ground earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectriCole 5 Posted November 13, 2023 I mean yea but she was an optional character, this time they're giving her a more fleshed out story so she fits into the narrative more cleanly and is an actual character Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen 10 Posted November 13, 2023 its because that was the defining moment of the game. its one of the most iconic scenes in gaming history at this point and one of the biggest driving forces of the original story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 I understood these two too. But I am also the one apparently in denial according to the internet that this is about the lifestream and not timelines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen 10 Posted November 13, 2023 you can make smaller changes that lead to the same conclusion, but changing aerith would literally just make it a different story altogether Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 But you know you're not lolI don't think completelyThey could find a way to BS the White Materia going off without her sacrifice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 I will find out in 3 months haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 But then again, FF7 wasn't even about Cloud vs Sephiroth or Aeirth's death: The broader themes are about life and pushing forward and moving on from and through pain and loss. That's the real story and it's already been torn apart by the survival of the aforementioned charactersPoint being why not just go all in at this point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 That is very understandable and I agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 It's not a remake it's a rewrite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 Yeah there's no denying this is a reimaginingWhether it keeps up the spirit of the original or not is yet to be seen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectriCole 5 Posted November 13, 2023 To drive the point that not everyone can be saved and sometimes you truly can't change fate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 Remake did it for me the partBut those last 2 hours sure does sour a lot of the goodwill the remake does do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectriCole 5 Posted November 13, 2023 cuz it seems like they're having all these characters living due to the whispers influence since it isn't shown that biggs was alive until after the whispers are defeatedidk I'm kinda spit balling here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 That's kind of how I feel too- especially because Remake can't decide if it's going to go all in on the meta narrative of "The whispers represent the fans and examining the relationship FF7 has with the world" or if it wants to just be a remake with new bells and whistlesCause clearly they want you to have at least been familiar with the original and compilation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectriCole 5 Posted November 13, 2023 me who's played none of them 😎 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 I thought of that too- which would be a ballsy move on Square's part- give people hope just to take it away? That's cold lol I respect it but then again, why let them live in the first place? Cheap sequel baiting? Cause that's what it'll feel like I yell ya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen 10 Posted November 13, 2023 i think we'll have a very good visual of what they're going for fully once rebirth drops. feels like they've been toying with us on purpose to keep this sort of conversation going for years lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectriCole 5 Posted November 13, 2023 kinda lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limen 10 Posted November 13, 2023 i doubt they'd drag it along through the third game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 That is how Nomura likes to write 😔 I know he's not super in the writers room on this one but still Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 Hahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otti#8624 26 Posted November 13, 2023 I fully expect them to drag it to 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakeskin94 13 Posted November 13, 2023 You know what they're gonna do guys? Do you actually know what this is all gonna lead to?Final Fantasy 7-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites