Kingdom Hearts 4 Chat

[Liftea 12]

It would be so cool if Sora grows out of this

[.sora_editz 0]

Fr

[Liftea 12]

and realizes that he can do shit solo

[.sora_editz 0]

Give him a good reality check

[Liftea 12]

and that depending so much on other people can be toxic

[.sora_editz 0]

Since it looks like he'll be doing things solo

But it could change

A game where Sora is alone while everyone else is somewhere else looking for him

[Liftea 12]

Sora reminds me a lot of kids or young adults who still rely too much on their parents

[.sora_editz 0]

Yea, they could change that in KH4

And I hope they do

[Liftea 12]

coincidentally TWEWY had similar themes and the writer is currently helping Nomura

I hope she can be a positive influence on the character writing

[.sora_editz 0]

Yea

[Liftea 12]

TWEWY had a similar case with Neku but it was the opposite. Neku was mostly only caring about himself which is the other extreme on this spectrum

[ocean's rage 774]

55 minutes ago, Liftea said:

they need to write a more adult oriented story because shit gets old

and I don't mean with that Sora cursing

For example Sora growing up and realizing his own selfworth

an adult story? with mickey, donald and goofy?

[Snakeskin94 13]

You CAN tell serious stories with them and in fact there exist them

People can't take them seriously not cause the stories aren't serious but because people can't see past them being cartoon characters- that's on the people, not the characters.

[Liftea 12]

In some cases being cartoony or lighthearted can even help the writing to make certain scenes even more impactful due to the contrast between a serious scene and the usual mood

it's one of the reasons why I love KH1 so much

[Snakeskin94 13]

Chain of Memories too

Nomura even said in an interview for that game that "the Disney characters fit in very naturally to the darker story this time."

[ocean's rage 774]

39 minutes ago, Snakeskin94_1642611873 said:

You CAN tell serious stories with them and in fact there exist them

People can't take them seriously not cause the stories aren't serious but because people can't see past them being cartoon characters- that's on the people, not the characters.

Exactly. The idea that a serious story is adult just isn’t true 

[Snakeskin94 13]

Damn right

[Sam N 10]

Well this year needs saving, anyway

[KH-Queen 13]

Honestly, people who say that serious stories are only made for adults are quite frankly dumbasses to me

[Sam N 10]

People who say otherwise clearly don't understand Disney history very well

Walt was well known for getting serious and dramatic when the plot called for it. Snow White and Sleeping Beauty are great examples of that.

The best example, however? No joke?

Education For Death

Seriously, that short does a fantastic job portraying the pure evil of the Nazis.

Even beyond that, Pluto's Judgment Day.

In that short, Pluto very nearly goes on trial for chasing cats and very nearly goes to hell, with the only thing stopping him being the fact that it's a dream.

In more modern times, we have A Goofy Movie: a very down-to-earth film about the relationship between Goofy and his son.

[dairyprods#0 4]

I’m not opposed to that

[Sam N 10]

Personally, I headcanon Riku swears like a sailor

[dairyprods#0 4]

[dairyprods#0 4]

The fact Sora wakes up on a couch implies that either
1. Strelitzia walked in one day to a random 16 year old dude just on her couch all of a sudden
2. Strelitzia found some random 16 year old asleep somewhere and dragged him back to her apartment and put him on the couch

[Sam N 10]

I highly doubt Strel dragged him back singlehandedly, so...that means Sora just kinda crashed on her couch like a hobo.