Kingdom Hearts 4 Chat

[Altaninort 0]

Anywhere else and the series has Darkness as this corrupting negative force that is even referenced in regards to the Seven Deadly Sins, and Light as something that inspires growth and goodness. While someone can use either for whatever purpose they please, that's an individual decision to do so. But we've seen throughout the series that Light and Darkness are Good and Evil in a cosmic sort of way

ye exactly

Terra was trying to protect his friends, but him having allowed darkness into his heart, and his strong feelings brought it out more, which allowed Xehanort to steal his body. While he was doing a good act, his darkness had that negative effect on him

[moon☁ 10]

see. I feel like that whole good and evil thing applies mostly to the age a fairytales rather than “current day” in the series.
I always thought both light and dark were required to make the universe of KH function the way it does, and that neither are inherently good or bad.
But yeah. People have predominantly used darkness for bad things and it’s corrupted and destroyed a lot, though. So I can 100% see the negative effects that darkness has had on the series.

[gunslingerkaras 0]

It doesn't help that Terra is emotionally stunted and doesn't know how to process negative emotions well.

[Fragment 1]

yeah but true darkness isn't necessarily "bad"

if you think of baldr in khdr, the darkness just wanted to live but being darkness where if anybody with the side of light sees it they will want to eradicate it so only choice is to be defensive and dangerous to survive.

likewise if you take into account vanitas, he is darkness but its not all entirely bad. He obeyed xehanort instead of just being against him so it shows darkness can choose sides in a sense*. Vanitas isnt entirely evil/bad more so just a depressed/confused person that may become a neutral ally in kh4

if kh4 doesnt showcase an opportunity where people who were originally aligned with the darkness coming to the aid of sora&the others against MoM. Then I dont think the series will get much opportunity for that to be a reality unless the ending sets up kh5 introducing that. I still expect to see darkness used for good, which in essence can mean original darkness being neutral. Not evil, but not good either.

my theory is that the ancient war was started by the light and is what pushed darkness to become how its perceived now. If darkness & light lived in a neutral standing, then 1 day light side said darkness is bad and must be destroyed. That wouldn't make darkness bad, if anything it would mean Light side was implying their own form of justice for life which in my opinion makes them worse then darkness. Kh4 hopefully will touch base on this to know what MoM really experienced in the ancient war.

[0blivion0athkeeper 1]

We will never be able to use keyblade armor in the games, huh ?

[gunslingerkaras 0]

Not very likely, unfortunately.

BBS was the first and last time.

[ocean's rage 772]

1 hour ago, Fragment said:

Vanitas isnt entirely evil/bad more so just a depressed/confused person that may become a neutral ally in kh4

yes he is. he admitted it himself in 3

[kylvex#0 0]

I meaaan if you count the Mirage Arena >.>

[moon☁ 10]

I mean… ReMind and dark road showed Keyblade armor, so I wouldn’t count it out just yet.
but most likely we won’t 🤷 Sora’s never really had a reason to use it since he drives a gummiship.

[kylvex#0 0]

And has magic clothes that give much stronger forms either way

[Fragment 1]

that doesnt make you bad

tons of times in game a character claims they are evil but end up becoming good/neutral

[gunslingerkaras 0]

That doesn't mean it's guaranteed to happen with Vanitas.

[moon☁ 10]

Vanitas was straight up like “nah I like being a little sh*t so imma stay bad” 😂

[kylvex#0 0]

BUT SORA COULD USE TALK-NO-JUTSU, HE TRIED IT ON XEMNAS >
"There's more to a heart than just anger or hate."
coping for anti-hero Vanitas

[Branryan 0]

Hm what is everybody's wish lost for kh 4?
Worlds
Atlantis
Treasure planet
Prydan the black cauldren
Colby the lone ranger
Dinosaur world with maybe a spot from the good dinosaur as a summon.
Star wars world based on endor and death star.
Unlikely avengers world based on engage were we could explore the mcu a bit via time travel.
Finally jungle book world
A lilo and stich world for the second half of the movie.

Maybe bugs life world, inside out world, avatar world since own fox
And great mouse detective world.
Enchanted world just because of the whole real world vrs fantisy world

Summons Mary Poppins, Eliot the dragon, spot from good dinosaur, fox and the hound, bolt summons

And unlikely Oswald, ortinsia and extremely unlikely grimlin gus from epic mickey

[ribbonfly 0]

Always a Zootopia world, I want furry Sora

[0blivion0athkeeper 1]

We had furry Sora already at home

[kylvex#0 0]

Wdym?? We've had him in the attic this whole time..

[0blivion0athkeeper 1]

What would I give to get this form of Sora playable. Wasn't there also an artwork where he holds a chainsaw ?

[kylvex#0 0]

[moon☁ 10]

Ah yes. The sora we almost got😭

He looked so weird in color

Also there’s multiple variations of furry sora. Look at monster’s inc sora, too!!

[Sam N 10]

Would be kinda neat to bring this form back as an Easter egg

[0blivion0athkeeper 1]

Yes. I meant this. Would be cool to see this maybe someday in a fitting world.

[KHWaterBlock_1557438268 1]

That's not the Sora you think it is lol

It's the final sora design but with no textures for his clothes

That screenshot was testing the final model in a room based environment they were testing, which also was eventually cut for not making sense story wise. Alice was a huge prominent staple for the original build/story

[Sam N 10]

I'm hoping KH4 does for Strelitzia what KH2 did for Roxas for me. Because KH2 made me empathize with Roxas extremely deeply despite knowing nothing about him. Hell, it did such a good job that I can reliably credit KH2's prologue for being what sold me on KH as a whole. From that alone I knew this wasn't going to be just another half-assed liscensed Disney game.