Super Smash Bros Ultimate adapted to Kingdom Hearts?

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I wasn't able to post anything here for a couple of weeks, but I managed to solve the problem now. So now I have to comment something I wanted to say since then.   
  
Well, I have to say that the idea of Sora being part of Super Smash Bros Ultimate is really fitting. I mean, he's the ultimate "crossover character" thanks to his ability to travel to different worlds, from the most dangerous to the funniest ones. And the most funny fact here is that the idea of Sora meeting all the characters from the Super Smash Bros Ultimate could work to be part of the official story of "Kingdom Hearts".   
  
1º) Thanks to "Union X", we know the world of "Wreck-It Ralph" could have a big role in the future. And in this Disney movie, they gathered a lot of characters from popular videogames. If we compare the movie with this game, which franchises coudl Sora meet in "Wreck-It Ralph" world? Let's see:   
  
- "Sonic the Hedgehog": Sora can't run as fast as Sonic, but his Flowmotion allows him to move in a similar way. Sonic would be an excellent replacement for Donald or Goofy.   
- "Pac-Man": The modern version of Pac-Man could be very useful to Sora, and I mean the version that we saw in the latest animated series on TV.   
- "Street Fighters": I don't know much about this franchise, and I haven't seen many of its character fighting using weapons; but I can see Sora fighting alongside Ryu or Ken.   
- "Mario": I suppose Mario could be the replacement of King Mickey here. Mario and Sora are similar enough to work great together. By extention, Mario's franchise could allow Yoshi and Wario to interact with Sora too.   
  
- "Donkey Kong": Donkey Kong is an extention of Mario's franchise, so if Sora meets Mario, he could meet Donkey Kong too. There's also the fact that Wreck-It Ralph is based on Donkey Kong, and if Sora fought alongside Ralph in KH III, he can definitely work alongside Donkey Kong.   
- "Metroid": This franchise didn't appear in "Wreck-It Ralph", but the world of "Hero's Duty" has elements from it; not to mention Calhoun is based on Samus Aran. So this is another franchise that Sora could find suitable for his style.   
  
2º) There are other franchises in "Super Smash Bros Ultimate" that didn't appear on "Wreck-It Ralph", but Sora's previous adventures could be a hint about which other could work for him to visit. Let's see which ones:   
  
- "Final Fantasy": Need any explanation? Final Fantasy is already half of Kingdom Hearts' Universe, so Sora could visit some of these worlds. Also, he already knows Cloud and Sephirot.   
- "Pokemon": Many people laughed at me when I mentioned this, and I don't see why. Have they forgot about the Spirit Dream Eaters in "Dream Drops Distance"? Don't tell me you didn't see their resemblance with Pokemon? Even the last scene in the game with Sora, surrounded with all the Spirit Dream Eaters made me think about Ash Ketchum along all the Pokemon he has captured through the whole series; with most of them now living at Oak's Lab. I have to add, it was really funny in the trailer the scene where I saw Sora attacking Mewtwo.   
- "The Legend of Zelda": Well, I think Link (at least his adult self) and Sora are similar enough to work great together. Don't you agree?  
  
I can't talk about the other franchises because I don't know them, but I suppose all the games that are about adventures and have human looking characters like Sora (or even anthropomorphic animals) could work great with Sora.   
  
What do you think?

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i think the idea of having to make smash canon to KH is nonsensical and feels like taking a bad joke too far

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On 10/11/2021 at 11:06 AM, ocean's rage said:

i think the idea of having to make smash canon to KH is nonsensical and feels like taking a bad joke too far

I didn't say use the SMASH's story to make it canon with Kingdom Hearts, but to make something "similar". Like I said, the key could be the world of "Wreck-It Ralph", as Sonic, Mario and other characters from videoagems made cameos in the movie. 

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10 hours ago, Ursalink said:

I didn't say use the SMASH's story to make it canon with Kingdom Hearts, but to make something "similar". Like I said, the key could be the world of "Wreck-It Ralph", as Sonic, Mario and other characters from videoagems made cameos in the movie. 

no

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On 10/14/2021 at 11:49 AM, ocean's rage said:

no

Barbie appeared in "Toy Story", and Sonic in "Wreck-It Ralph". Why it would wrong for Sora to meet Sonic or Mario through Wreck-It Ralph's world?

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1 hour ago, Ursalink said:

Barbie appeared in "Toy Story", and Sonic in "Wreck-It Ralph". Why it would wrong for Sora to meet Sonic or Mario through Wreck-It Ralph's world?

because smash isnt canon. and they have enough trouble using certain disney properties never mind having to shell out for mario

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7 hours ago, ocean's rage said:

because smash isnt canon. and they have enough trouble using certain disney properties never mind having to shell out for mario

Like I said, and I repeat, there's no need to make Smash canon. But we could have a similar crossover if Sora visits the world of "Wreck-It Ralph". 

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7 hours ago, Ursalink said:

Like I said, and I repeat, there's no need to make Smash canon. But we could have a similar crossover if Sora visits the world of "Wreck-It Ralph". 

like i said: why should they blow half the budget on a cameo?

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On 10/19/2021 at 11:54 AM, ocean's rage said:

like i said: why should they blow half the budget on a cameo?

To make a promotion for Sega and Nintendo's characters?

Back in the day, Barbie was going to appear in the first Toy Story's movie, but Mattel wasn't sure the movie would be a success and they forbid Disney from using their toy. That's why Bo Peep was created. Playskool didn't object however in using Mr Potato, and they did it right. Because of the sucess of "Toy Story", Playskool's sales of Mr Potato were highly increased. After this, Mattel allowed Disney to use Barbie in Toy Story 2 and 3. 

The same can work if Sega and Nintendo allow their characters to appear in another franchise to promote them. 

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39 minutes ago, Ursalink said:

To make a promotion for Sega and Nintendo's characters?

Back in the day, Barbie was going to appear in the first Toy Story's movie, but Mattel wasn't sure the movie would be a success and they forbid Disney from using their toy. That's why Bo Peep was created. Playskool didn't object however in using Mr Potato, and they did it right. Because of the sucess of "Toy Story", Playskool's sales of Mr Potato were highly increased. After this, Mattel allowed Disney to use Barbie in Toy Story 2 and 3. 

The same can work if Sega and Nintendo allow their characters to appear in another franchise to promote them. 

you think mario and sonic need promoting? and you think SE would want to spend licencing money purely to promote their competitors? 

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On 10/25/2021 at 11:00 PM, ocean's rage said:

you think mario and sonic need promoting? and you think SE would want to spend licencing money purely to promote their competitors? 

Even if they don't need promoting, it's something fans would love to see. Not all Disney's fans like Mario and Sonic, and not all Sonic and Mario's fans like Disney. It's a way to "expand" their influences. Sometimes, in order to gain a great profit, you have to give the public what they want. 

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59 minutes ago, Ursalink said:

Even if they don't need promoting, it's something fans would love to see. Not all Disney's fans like Mario and Sonic, and not all Sonic and Mario's fans like Disney. It's a way to "expand" their influences. Sometimes, in order to gain a great profit, you have to give the public what they want. 

and would they be getting their moneys worth for a small cameo in the game? last time disney tried to licence mario for a small cameo they didnt considered it worth the expense. it would be pointless fan service 

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On 10/30/2021 at 8:40 PM, ocean's rage said:

and would they be getting their moneys worth for a small cameo in the game? last time disney tried to licence mario for a small cameo they didnt considered it worth the expense. it would be pointless fan service 

Then how is it they managed to use Browser/Koopa? I mean, they managed to use both Eggman/Robotnik and Sonic in both movies of Wreck-it Ralph, but only Bowser appeared in the mocies, while Mario was just referenced. How is it they managed to use Mario's arch-enemy but not Mario himself?

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24 minutes ago, Ursalink said:

Then how is it they managed to use Browser/Koopa? I mean, they managed to use both Eggman/Robotnik and Sonic in both movies of Wreck-it Ralph, but only Bowser appeared in the mocies, while Mario was just referenced. How is it they managed to use Mario's arch-enemy but not Mario himself?

presumably cause mario cost a lot more to use? based on what was said it would seem nintendo licence characters separately. we would also be able to assume sonic and eggman are also cheaper 

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On 11/6/2021 at 8:41 PM, ocean's rage said:

presumably cause mario cost a lot more to use? based on what was said it would seem nintendo licence characters separately. we would also be able to assume sonic and eggman are also cheaper 

Sounds weird, if you ask me. 

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1 hour ago, Ursalink said:

Sounds weird, if you ask me. 

well yes i can see how but i can also see why companies would charge for each character