Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 15, 2010 Today I was watching the cutscenes from the Last Episode of BBS, as well as Blank Points, and me being in my usual "KH Detective" mode, noticed some things I didn't even think about until now. Lets start with the Final Episode. When Terranort grabs Aqua by the neck and begins to choke her, wisps of darkness arise from him. Soon after, he fights her. She beats him the first time, and he overloads with darkness, and suddenly summons the Guardian Heartless. The Guardian, being a Pureblood Heartless, must have been created by a heart falling to darkness, more or less. Could the Guardian be a Heartless of someone who was in Terra's heart? Now lets move onto Blank Points. I remember reading that Ansem the Wise conducted experiments on Xehanort, blah blah blah, got thrown into the Realm of Nothingness, blah blah blah, and then to escape the Realm of Nothingness, he accepted his darkness. However, in the scene in Blank Points where Xigbar talks to Xehanort, Ansem the Wise turns around and reveals his amber/gold-ish, implying that he was doing something evil or dark previously. Has it been clarified why his eyes were amber then? Another Blank Points question. When Ansem the Wise talks to Aqua, he tells her that he was in the Realm of Darkness with a lost memory previously before? Yet I cannot find any information about his first trip to the Realm of Darkness. Explanation? Now moving on to the Org 13 question. In 358/2 Days, on Roxas' mission with Marluxia, Marluxia tells Roxas something along the lines of "You are the first person that is able to collect hearts". So before Roxas was born, all of the Emblem Heartless that were destroyed by Sora in KH1, their hearts went to Kingdom Hearts right? Just need some clarification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted December 15, 2010 1) Yes, Master Xehanort's heart was possessing Terra's body. Remember, MX was looking for a younger, stronger body so that he can start a new Keyblade War and see it with his own eyes. So he chooses Terra as a new vessel since Terra was using darkness and couldn't control it too well. As for the guardian, he was pretty much made from the power of darkness and darkness itself. And also because of MX using Terra's body. 2) It was confirmed that Ansem's eyes were always like that. If you look closer at his eyes, they are more amber-orange colored. His eyes would have to be more yellow-colored for him to use darkness. 3) His "first trip" to the realm of darkness was because Ansem the Wise's 6 Apprentice's betrayed him and banished him there. 4) Yes, since the Organization existed before Sora became a keyblade master. I beleave that KH was beginning to be formed at that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted December 15, 2010 fool. I think he meant he was one able to collect a heart in the organization. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 15, 2010 fool. I think he meant he was one able to collect a heart in the organization. Yeah, that's what I meant. I know MX possess Terra, it still doesn't explain how a Heartless was created. Heartless aren't just created from darkness itself, a heart needs to fall into darkness to create a Heartless, thus why I posed this question. Can you quote the confirmation on the eyes? Not that I don't believe you, I just need clarification. And no, he was sent to the Realm of Nothingness by his apprentices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,690 Posted December 15, 2010 fool. I think he meant he was one able to collect a heart in the organization. Well, Marluxia actually explained in 358/2 Days that the weapons the the Organizwtion uses can't make the heart they release go into kingdom hearts. The heart would just only find its way into another heartless. The only people that can make the hearts to form Kingdom Hearts is Roxas and Xion. Since they were "the exceptional ones". @SK3, well pureblood heartless are born from darkness itself is what I should've meant. But the Emblem Heartless were created by Apprentice Xehanort]back when he was studying the heart. He used some civilians of Radient Garden to experiment on the human heart. Which then resulted in the creation of Emblem Heartless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterXemnas 2,285 Posted December 15, 2010 fool. I think he meant he was one able to collect a heart in the organization. Well, Marluxia actually explained in 358/2 Days that the weapons the the Organizwtion uses can't make the heart they release go into kingdom hearts. The heart would just only find its way into another heartless. The only people that can make the hearts to form Kingdom Hearts is Roxas and Xion. Since they were "the exceptional ones". @SK3, well pureblood heartless are born from darkness itself is what I should've ment. But the Emblem Heartless were created by Apprentice Xehanort]back when he was studying the heart. He used some civilians of Radient Garden to experiment on the human heart. Which then resulted in the creation of Emblem Heartless. fool. Yep, that's correct. good job Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted December 15, 2010 Ah. Okay, that makes things a lot less complicated for me. Thanks for clearing that Heartless part up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted December 15, 2010 Just adding some stuff that no one mentioned ^^ Today I was watching the cutscenes from the Last Episode of BBS, as well as Blank Points, and me being in my usual "KH Detective" mode, noticed some things I didn't even think about until now. Lets start with the Final Episode. When Terranort grabs Aqua by the neck and begins to choke her, wisps of darkness arise from him. Soon after, he fights her. She beats him the first time, and he overloads with darkness, and suddenly summons the Guardian Heartless. The Guardian, being a Pureblood Heartless, must have been created by a heart falling to darkness, more or less. Could the Guardian be a Heartless of someone who was in Terra's heart? It wasn't by the neck actually. You can see his palm facing upwards, which leads to either he was lifting her up by her belt straps (which are textured in), or he plunged his hand into her heart (similar to what Master Xehanort will do in the second-to-last boss battle in Terra's scenario, which would explain her darkness remark). But I digress~ Yeah, it's entirely possible. It's actually a common assumption that it's Master Xehanort's Heartless or that it's the darkness in Terranort's heart manifested into physical form, but it's all still up in the air. Now lets move onto Blank Points. I remember reading that Ansem the Wise conducted experiments on Xehanort, blah blah blah, got thrown into the Realm of Nothingness, blah blah blah, and then to escape the Realm of Nothingness, he accepted his darkness. However, in the scene in Blank Points where Xigbar talks to Xehanort, Ansem the Wise turns around and reveals his amber/gold-ish, implying that he was doing something evil or dark previously. Has it been clarified why his eyes were amber then? His eyes are just amber. That's all there is to it. Much like, if you look at the eyes of the Young MX render, you can see that his eyes are golden. However, that was before he left the islands to become a Keyblade Master, hinting that he was born with it, and the gold eyes later on in the series are not a cause of just darkness influence, but Xehanort himself. (I vaguely remember an interview elaborating on this though ^^) So yeah. Ansem was just born with amber eyes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumberXIII.Roxas 64 Posted December 15, 2010 For what pertains to the Guardian, he isn't a Heartless per se. He is more of a dark symbiote, created through Xehanort's darkness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted December 16, 2010 For what pertains to the Guardian, he isn't a Heartless per se. He is more of a dark symbiote, created through Xehanort's darkness. The guardian is a big enough topic of speculation for its own thread. Because the guardian literally is his shadow, if you don't believe me look up a picture of him, extending from ansem sod. Because of this he has to do with the hearts of aprentice xehanort. Because it is darkness it has to do with darkness, ... ya. He Master xehanort says get out of my heart and the guardian appears, impling terra is heavly affiliated with the guardian more than master xehanort or any other thing. he says And now it is your darkness that shall be the ark that sustains me. By this time xehanort has taker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sota9 4 Posted December 17, 2010 Guardian is Master Xehanort physical form without his own body(his darkness) cause when you fight Terranort with Aqua, Terra help you out and start attacking Guardian(in gameplay) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites