KHBbS Confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Master Keeper 687]

If Vanitas was Ven's darkness and Heartless is the Darkness of peoples hearts does that mean that Vanitas is Ven's heartless ??!!

and how can he control the unversed if he is not an unversed !!??

Is he an Unversed !?!?

[tomislav 0]

No he is special. he is like roxas but he is made from darkness

[Rob 5,571]

Did you even play the game? Cause its clearly explained if you played it.

No, Vanitas is not Ven's heartless. Ven didn't lose his heart, it was fractured. A part of it was extracted(darkness), thus making Vanitas come out. No, Vanitas isn't an unversed, the unversed come from him. They are his emotions, they are what he feels. When they are defeated they go right back into him. Vanitas explains this himself at the end of the game in the Keyblade graveyard right before he joins with Ven to make the X-blade.

[Tails 6,692]

Allow me to explain:

 

 

Vanitas isn't exactly Ventus's heartless. He is darkness extracted from Ven's heart. Master xehanort used his keybklade to extract ven's darkness within him because Ven's heart was always so fragile and weak. So when Xehanort extracted Ventus's heart, the darkness within him formed into what is now known as Vanitas. And Vanitas isn't exactly an Unversed, he's more like their leader in a way. The unversed are pretty much a part Vanitas, they are what he feels. When Ventus and Vanitas was split apart, it not only created vanitas, but also created the Unversed as well. remember, the Unveresed are creatures that feed off of negative emotions, and since they are a part of vanitas they are also a part of ven's darkness. In other words, they are ven's darkness that formed into "monsters".

 

[KeybladeWielderXIII 11]

Allow me to explain:

 

 

Vanitas isn't exactly Ventus's heartless. He is darkness extracted from Ven's heart. Master xehanort used his keybklade to extract ven's darkness within him because Ven's heart was always so fragile and weak. So when Xehanort extracted Ventus's heart, the darkness within him formed into what is now known as Vanitas. And Vanitas isn't exactly an Unversed, he's more like their leader in a way. The unversed are pretty much a part Vanitas, they are what he feels. When Ventus and Vanitas was split apart, it not only created vanitas, but also created the Unversed as well. remember, the Unveresed are creatures that feed off of negative emotions, and since they are a part of vanitas they are also a part of ven's darkness. In other words, they are ven's darkness that formed into "monsters".

 

 

Well said

[Isaix 924]

Dont need to be an unversed to control unversed,Maleficent control heartless and she's not an heartless

[Gameowner5 34]

Did you even play the game? Cause its clearly explained if you played it.

No, Vanitas is not Ven's heartless. Ven didn't lose his heart, it was fractured. A part of it was extracted(darkness), thus making Vanitas come out. No, Vanitas isn't an unversed, the unversed come from him. They are his emotions, they are what he feels. When they are defeated they go right back into him. Vanitas explains this himself at the end of the game in the Keyblade graveyard right before he joins with Ven to make the X-blade.

 

if the the unversed is he's emotions then on terra's story (i think) in the castl at the cinderella world vanitas must be feeling musical

[AwersomeOne 109]

Dont need to be an unversed to control unversed,Maleficent control heartless and she's not an heartless

 

correct. he was the creator of the unversed though (but he is not a heartless nor unversed) lol hes neo ven

[Tails 6,692]

 

Dont need to be an unversed to control unversed,Maleficent control heartless and she's not an heartless

 

That's because Maleficent had succumbed and relied mainly on darkness. If you surrender yoursaelf to the darkness, then the heartless will obey your every command.

 

correct. he was the creator of the unversed though (but he is not a heartless nor unversed) lol hes neo ven

 

I wouldn't say "creator" of the Unversed, more like he came along with the Unversed when Ven's darkness got extracted.

[AwersomeOne 109]

well technically true, but he said that they come from him so its like hes created and using his dark power produced (created) them

[Reversal 53]

If Vanitas was Ven's darkness and Heartless is the Darkness of peoples hearts does that mean that Vanitas is Ven's heartless ??!!

and how can he control the unversed if he is not an unversed !!??

Is he an Unversed !?!?

 

Well, kind of... While Vanitas fits the description of a Heartless, being the darkness in a person's heart, the way he came about isn't the same. For Purebloods, the darkness in a person's heart engulfs the heart in its entirety, transforming it into a Heartless. With Vanitas, that wasn't the case. He's just an entity of pure darkness, neither Heartless nor Unversed.

 

The Unversed were originally born from Vanitas, but can also come into being through other people's negative emotions (see Lady Tremaine and the Pumpkin Carriage Unversed). Unversed are born from negative emotions, and are not well versed in existence.

[AwersomeOne 109]

 

If Vanitas was Ven's darkness and Heartless is the Darkness of peoples hearts does that mean that Vanitas is Ven's heartless ??!!

and how can he control the unversed if he is not an unversed !!??

Is he an Unversed !?!?

 

Well, kind of... While Vanitas fits the description of a Heartless, being the darkness in a person's heart, the way he came about isn't the same. For Purebloods, the darkness in a person's heart engulfs the heart in its entirety, transforming it into a Heartless. With Vanitas, that wasn't the case. He's just an entity of pure darkness, neither Heartless nor Unversed.

 

The Unversed were originally born from Vanitas, but can also come into being through other people's negative emotions (see Lady Tremaine and the Pumpkin Carriage Unversed). Unversed are born from negative emotions, and are not well versed in existence.

 

well said ^_^, lol i think reversal settled another discussion

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

 

Dont need to be an unversed to control unversed,Maleficent control heartless and she's not an heartless

 

correct. he was the creator of the unversed though (but he is not a heartless nor unversed) lol hes neo ven

 

Only Vanitas can control the Unversed because they are a part of him, his emotions.

 

And it is explained in Kingdom Hearts II by Saix that the Heartless ally themselves with whoever is strongest. Maleficent was a dark fairy with great strength, hence why she was able to control them.

[Rob 5,571]

 

Did you even play the game? Cause its clearly explained if you played it.

No, Vanitas is not Ven's heartless. Ven didn't lose his heart, it was fractured. A part of it was extracted(darkness), thus making Vanitas come out. No, Vanitas isn't an unversed, the unversed come from him. They are his emotions, they are what he feels. When they are defeated they go right back into him. Vanitas explains this himself at the end of the game in the Keyblade graveyard right before he joins with Ven to make the X-blade.

 

if the the unversed is he's emotions then on terra's story (i think) in the castl at the cinderella world vanitas must be feeling musical

 

I guess so. I was typing really fast that I messed up, but its already answered, so oh well.

[wholphdog 0]

Allow me to explain:

 

 

Vanitas isn't exactly Ventus's heartless. He is darkness extracted from Ven's heart. Master xehanort used his keybklade to extract ven's darkness within him because Ven's heart was always so fragile and weak. So when Xehanort extracted Ventus's heart, the darkness within him formed into what is now known as Vanitas. And Vanitas isn't exactly an Unversed, he's more like their leader in a way. The unversed are pretty much a part Vanitas, they are what he feels. When Ventus and Vanitas was split apart, it not only created vanitas, but also created the Unversed as well. remember, the Unveresed are creatures that feed off of negative emotions, and since they are a part of vanitas they are also a part of ven's darkness. In other words, they are ven's darkness that formed into "monsters".

 

 

thank you professor

[roxas is da one 1]

So after vanitas was formed there was only light in ven? and when he fused with sora, sora had a heart and a half? NOW IM CONFUSED?

[Reversal 53]

So after vanitas was formed there was only light in ven? and when he fused with sora, sora had a heart and a half? NOW IM CONFUSED?

 

Yes, Vanitas is the dark half of Ven's heart. Once he was extracted, all that was left in Ven's heart was light.

 

No, Sora had his own, completed heart. By connected his heart to Ven's, they were able to mend the fracture Vanitas had created. It's not that Sora had 1 1/2 hearts ^^;

[Master Keeper 687]

Thank u very much guys , I thank everyone who tried to help me and now I understand ^^ .

[heartless101 83]

Vanitas is the darkness of Ven, he is not the heartless of Ven. Vanitas is technically an Unversed.