KHBbS A trend I just saw...

[Tom 437]

In Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, you basically fought Xemnas. Xemnas later appeared in the Secret Ending.

 

In Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix, you basically fought Terra. Terra later appeared in the Secret Ending.

 

So if the two statements show a trend, then that means...

 

In Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix, you fought MF. Are there chances he is involved in the Secret Episode? Is he the person that you can virtually play as in it?

 

Who knows at this point, but I believe MF will make an appearence, with this trend.

 

By the way, I'm talking about the Japanese BBS, not the English BBS. Just throwing this out there before someone confuses things around.

[Reiko009 3]

hmm very interesting

[AwersomeOne 109]

yup mf's gonna appear in kh3 (most likely) because they would toss in a mysterious boss and not reveal the story behind him ^_^

[Keyblader 325]

I have a theory similar to that, in the sense that the secret bosses in the Final Mix games have had ties to the next big game. I am assuming that the Mysterious Figure will have ties to the next big game in the series in some way, whether he be good or bad.

[Tom 437]

yup mf's gonna appear in kh3 (most likely) because they would toss in a mysterious boss and not reveal the story behind him ^_^

 

I'm talking about the Secret Episode...

 

I have a theory similar to that, in the sense that the secret bosses in the Final Mix games have had ties to the next big game. I am assuming that the Mysterious Figure will have ties to the next big game in the series in some way, whether he be good or bad.

 

Again, talking about Secret Ending.

 

I mentioned no KH3 or future games.

[hatok 6,413]

Not much of a trend with only two instances...

But you're probably right

[Zenithia 305]

Since Master Eraqus is being put into the japanese remake of BBS, then I have a feeling that he will be in the extended version of the secret trailer, though that's just a guess. I think that Vanitas, the Unknown and Master Eraqus all will have an influence on the next major installment one way or another. But either way, with the Xehanort Saga coming to a close I don't doubt it being something big. But that's just another thing to look forward to when Nomura begins working on the project in the seemingly distant future. Since Xemnas was in KHFM and was a major character in KH2, and same with Terra in his own way, I would doubt Vanitas, The Unknown, or Master Eraqus, if not all three, coming back in the next major game. Just an interesting story to look forward to.

[MasterXemnas 2,285]

fool. Terra was in the secret ending b4 u got to fight him.

[Tom 437]

fool. Terra was in the secret ending b4 u got to fight him.

 

Fool. You are talking about The Gathering, which is in the original KH2.

 

Birth by Sleep (the Secret Ending) is in the Final Mix version.

 

The one I'm refering to is the Final Mix one, because that's how the trend works.

 

Good job, you made yourself look like a fool, and made it seem like you didn't actually read the thread. Here's a cookie.

[MasterXemnas 2,285]

 

fool. Terra was in the secret ending b4 u got to fight him.

 

Fool. You are talking about The Gathering, which is in the original KH2.

 

Birth by Sleep (the Secret Ending) is in the Final Mix version.

 

The one I'm refering to is the Final Mix one, because that's how the trend works.

 

Good job, you made yourself look like a fool, and made it seem like you didn't actually read the thread. Here's a cookie.

 

fool. at least I got a cookie.

[Tom 437]

 

 

fool. Terra was in the secret ending b4 u got to fight him.

 

Fool. You are talking about The Gathering, which is in the original KH2.

 

Birth by Sleep (the Secret Ending) is in the Final Mix version.

 

The one I'm refering to is the Final Mix one, because that's how the trend works.

 

Good job, you made yourself look like a fool, and made it seem like you didn't actually read the thread. Here's a cookie.

 

fool. at least I got a cookie.

 

Fool. I gave you that cookie.

 

Anyways, back on-topic, the English or Japanese endings or Secret Ending do not count. Only the Final Mixs do, that's how the trend works.

 

Hopefully Nomura won't mindfack us by not revealing MF in the Secret Episode for BBSFM >.<

[MasterXemnas 2,285]

fool. The identidies of these characters seem to be given in the next major installment of Kingdom Hearts. We may see MF, but I doubt we'll learn his identidy in the final mix. I guess if you want to rely on trends.

[khven 0]

 

 

 

fool. Terra was in the secret ending b4 u got to fight him.

 

Fool. You are talking about The Gathering, which is in the original KH2.

 

Birth by Sleep (the Secret Ending) is in the Final Mix version.

 

The one I'm refering to is the Final Mix one, because that's how the trend works.

 

Good job, you made yourself look like a fool, and made it seem like you didn't actually read the thread. Here's a cookie.

 

fool. at least I got a cookie.

 

Fool. I gave you that cookie.

 

Anyways, back on-topic, the English or Japanese endings or Secret Ending do not count. Only the Final Mixs do, that's how the trend works.

 

Hopefully Nomura won't mindfack us by not revealing MF in the Secret Episode for BBSFM >.<

 

I doubt he would, and what if MF is in the same role as ice titan, just a secret boss, and nothing more, but he could throw a lowball and give us a major secret.

 

(can i have a cookie...)

[Sir Adamus 1]

I doubt he would, and what if MF is in the same role as ice titan, just a secret boss, and nothing more, but he could throw a lowball and give us a major secret.

 

(can i have a cookie...)

 

I think Nomura said that MF was a canon fight, and due to the extreme difficulty involved in fighting him, he's going to at least have SOME plot relevance. You can't just introduce a mysterious character and then just forget that he exists.

[Lightning 0]

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

[khven 0]

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

 

but eraqus is a boss in mirage arena, not a secret boss. if we follow your logic, then wouldnt Monstro have a plot relevance other than a world in a future title?

[Sir Adamus 1]

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

 

Eraqus isn't a canon boss fight, it's in the Mirage Arena. Unlike the MF, which is in the Land of Departure.

[KeybadeWarsFan 0]

thinking of that, maybe that might mean that MF is Ansem

[Tom 437]

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

 

Actually, the Armored Man is not canon. So here will be doubts about an actual appearence.

 

Not only that, MF is technically a FM boss to the Japanese, as they never got the chance to fight him. So the trend still works.

[Lightning 0]

 

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

 

Eraqus isn't a canon boss fight, it's in the Mirage Arena. Unlike the MF, which is in the Land of Departure.

 

I never said he was. I just stated that his trend is wrong, as the bosses he was naming were from Final Mixes but MF is NOT from a Final Mix

[Master Keeper 687]

I heared some were as I think that u play in the secret episode as Xehanort (not sure)

[DChiuch 5,773]

Actually, the Armored Man is not canon.

 

How do you know? People seem to throw around this phrase all the time, ie that "Sora and Riku wearing their original clothes in 3D isnt canon" or that "Sora fighting the Lingering Sentiment in KH2FM isnt canon". These were both commonly thought at one point, but the two things were later proven to be canon.

[Tom 437]

 

Actually, the Armored Man is not canon.

 

How do you know? People seem to throw around this phrase all the time, ie that "Sora and Riku wearing their original clothes in 3D isnt canon" or that "Sora fighting the Lingering Sentiment in KH2FM isnt canon". These were both commonly thought at one point, but the two things were later proven to be canon.

 

Actually, I meant to say the fight with Armored Man is not canon, as the characters themselves seem to be canon. My fault on that.

 

Since apparently you're freaking out about canon, here's the thing:

 

In the context of fan fiction, the term canon denotes the material accepted as "official", in a fictional universe's fan base. It is used in two slightly different meanings: first, "it refers to the overall set of storylines, premises, settings, and characters offered by the source media text". In this sense, canon is "the original work from which the fan fiction author borrows," or "the original media on which the fan fictions are based." Secondly, it is used "as a descriptor of specific incidents, relationships, or story arcs that take place within the overall canon"; thus certain incidents or relationships may be described as being canon or not.

 

How I know this is that you fight him in the Mirage Arena. That place is non-canon. With what that quote said above, it doesn't affect the story, characters, setting, etc.

 

If the Mirage Arena is non-canon, why would the fight with Armored Man be canon? That's a contradiction right there. The character itself may be canon, but the fight is not.

 

This is the part where you start jumping to conclusions.

 

I thought the whole Sora and Riku having their KH1 clothes in 3D was canon. Not everyone thinks the same way, and obiviously I stood up for it. Be sure to figure out my perspective of things before you start say things like that, whether or not you were implying many people.

 

The Sora fighting LS in KHIIFM is non-canon. Nomura said it himself. Of course, I would try to prove to you this with the quote, but I can't seem to find the information anywhere. My guess it was in a Nomura interview or in the KHIIFM Ultimania. I hope someone can find it and post it. But I definitly remember him saying that.

 

And even if it was canon, does it matter? It's still not even canon. It would be semi-canon then. Does it affect anything in KHII? No.

 

The same goes for Xemnas. Nomura never stated it was canon or not. It could be canon due to the fact that the same scene where Xemnas shots lightning at Sora, and Sora deflects it, is in KHII (yes, the English version). But it would be semi-canon, as it doesn't affect anything within the game.

 

fool. The identidies of these characters seem to be given in the next major installment of Kingdom Hearts. We may see MF, but I doubt we'll learn his identidy in the final mix. I guess if you want to rely on trends.

 

Fool. He doesn't necessary need his identity shown, but more of an appearence. If we see his appearence, and perhaps he speaks, maybe we might be able to get some context clues off of it.

 

 

 

Umm...MF isn't a secret boss of BbS FM though, Eraqus Sentiment is. So following this "trend" he would be in the next installment. MF isn't a "Final Mix" boss like Xemnas or Terra. He is in the american version. So, following this "trend" would make Eraqus Sentiment a character in the next major installment of the series. It has nothing to do with MF.

 

Eraqus isn't a canon boss fight, it's in the Mirage Arena. Unlike the MF, which is in the Land of Departure.

 

I never said he was. I just stated that his trend is wrong, as the bosses he was naming were from Final Mixes but MF is NOT from a Final Mix

 

Oh, so you fought MF in the Japanese BBS? I think not. Technically, we ourselves have a Final Mix. And then the Japanese got a bigger Final Mix, with things we got plus more.

 

If they didn't get MF in the regular Japanese version, then it's obivious that he is a Final Mix, thus making him a Final Mix boss. End of story.

[Keyblader 325]

 

I have a theory similar to that, in the sense that the secret bosses in the Final Mix games have had ties to the next big game. I am assuming that the Mysterious Figure will have ties to the next big game in the series in some way, whether he be good or bad.

 

Again, talking about Secret Ending.

 

I mentioned no KH3 or future games.

 

Sorry I got off topic, I was thinking about what I thought of it.

 

Well, it is a good theory, I would be interested to find out that MF was a part of the Secret Episode in BBSFM. I wonder what the Secret Ending will be about.

[MasterXemnas 2,285]

Deathskull3000 " Fool. He doesn't necessary need his identity shown, but more of an appearence. If we see his appearence, and perhaps he speaks, maybe we might be able to get some context clues off of it."

 

fool. That's what I meant. We're not gonna see anything like that.