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[ali3n.0bserv3r 6]

I want you all to know I am an idiot.

A buffoon.

[hawk222_1550644792 16]

A baka?

[Silent Multiverse 7]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/final-fantasy-16-ditched-turn-based-combat-to-appeal-to-younger-generations-producer-says/

[-Kye- 10]

turn based is fine as long as you do it like persona where it feels fast and fluid

[venommob12 2]

I mean if 16 was going to be turn based it would have been something like an offline singleplayer version of FF14, just like how FF12 was a basically an offline singleplayer version of FF11

[Limen 10]

turn based is fine as long as you do it like persona where it feels fast and fluid

just a statement I'd like to make that isn't toward anyone in specific:
younger generations can enjoy turn based just the same as older generations because turn based games are a genre that still merit their own space in gaming. action has not replaced it, but simply coexists with it. it has and always will be about a players preferences. the only difference nowadays is that, unlike 25+ years ago, players nowadays have more options to choose from than just turn based, which of course splits the amount of players who prefer turn based vs action vs any other genre like shooters. there's just more variety now, doesn't mean turn based as a whole is bad or old or outdated. there can definitely be turn based games that are bad but that's more on the game itself and not the genre and i hate when people turn to "it's bad bc its turn based" as their complaint on a game

[venommob12 2]

Yeah personally I think the concept of turn based vs. action based seems pretty dumb, it can work both ways. FF 13 trilogy and FF14 still use turn based combat but in a much more engaging way where it didn't feel like simply input commands and simply taking turns and wait too long. Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch did a fantastic job at this too. Now if there is one thing that bugs me is the superiority complex from both parties and honestly it shouldn't be that way

[Limen 10]

even truly turn based games are completely fine when the system is built around creating good strategies and not mashing confirm

[venommob12 2]

Right current pokemon games are proof of this

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

See Trails as well for well done turn based content that is still fun to this day

[Limen 10]

^

[venommob12 2]

The upcoming one piece odyssey is using turn based too

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

Lowkey turn based wait is great cause
AW heck I gotta go help someone in the house? No worries I can just wait on my turn

[Limen 10]

Octopath is a step in the right direction as well, though some of it is also meh lol. the idea of exploiting weaknesses to deal actual damage is engaging even as a turn based game

[ali3n.0bserv3r 6]

I thing turn based stuff is great, and open combat is cool, it honestly just depends on what audience you’re shooting for and what you’re up to that day.

[venommob12 2]

Right I think the idea of both styles to coexist is good, but then you got this one crowd that talks smack saying no everything should be turn based or no everything should action, like why?

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

If only people could understand that with FF lol

Ergo hybrid systems will be great once they get explored more

Like action when you want, turn based when you want

[ali3n.0bserv3r 6]

I prefer more open combat because you can get creative with move and weapon combos. I also just like turning my brain off and hitting things to death.

Ergo == Code Vein and Kingdom Hearts == a type of therapy.

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

Play Ys 8

[Limen 10]

7R is honestly such a great step forward with it delving into turn based aspects to enhance the action portion

i haven't tried classic mode yet but The fact that it exists is sick too

[venommob12 2]

Dot hack games felt like a perfect mix of both, though IMOQ feels very close to that experience

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

It's not localized but Kuro no Kiseki by Falcom are also a great direction

[ali3n.0bserv3r 6]

YS 8?

[GoldenDrummer730#4323 24]

Ys 8: Lacrimosa of Dana

Fantastic ARPG

[Limen 10]

Ys is the name of the franchise