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[Ash is Trash 0]

quite dumb to announce something like Versus 13 when you had literally nothing done on it

[Ash is Trash 0]

my god

[Ash is Trash 0]

my texts won't LOAD

[Icecl Keyheart 13]

Maybe not him specifically but yoshi-p definitely has stated he doesn't like how where sqaure takes ages to do things and he's done the opposite with stuff he's worked on

[Ash is Trash 0]

there we go

also yeah that

but liek that's also what i mean by "literally having nothing"

as constantly changing the story is a sign you have a lack of direction

[Icecl Keyheart 13]

And when you take too much fan input into account also

[-Kye- 10]

He also didn’t like them trying to make crazy engines and trying to always have the best looking game

[Icecl Keyheart 13]

which xv apparently had a lot of

I mean square has always been about pushing the graphical quality but it's at a point now for awhile it's been harming the games more than benefiting

[-Kye- 10]

Exactly

[Ash is Trash 0]

OH YEAH THAT TOO

crazy to think that a game engine almost lead to the death of a company

on multiple associations

[Otti#8624 26]

> Like or hate the guy it's undeniable that he gets things moving along it doesn't take decades like Nourma
I wouldn't go that far against Nomura

Believe it or not, all the games he has worked on other than Versus 13 has come out after a reasonable time

The issue is when they are announced

5 years time to get a game out is normal

Which is what it took KH3

same with FF7R

Hell, they had to start from scratch two years into FF7R and they still got it out after 3 years

Nomura gets the games out, the issue comes on Square announcing them way too damn early

Yoshi P is 4 years into FF16 right now, it's not any different from what Nomura has done except they announced it later

Which helps it a lot more

[Ash is Trash 0]

^^^^

the only game that I say that would be applied to

is XV

because when it started as Versus 13

there was literally nothing

[Otti#8624 26]

No, even XV came out at a reasonable time

That one took around 5 years too

Versus 13 is a whole other drama

[Ash is Trash 0]

yeah but when you take into account Versus 13

it gets real messy

[Otti#8624 26]

Yeah that's fair

But it's also a director change

[Ash is Trash 0]

changing directors was a good call

in my opinion

[Otti#8624 26]

Tabata worked his ass off just to get that game out

[Ash is Trash 0]

and you know what?

it has a lot of flaws

but he made a pretty good game

[Otti#8624 26]

Not only to keep some of the stuff Nomura did but also make the trilogy he planned into just one game

[Ash is Trash 0]

considering the circumstances surrounding it

[Otti#8624 26]

Along with working on a brand new engine they made

[Ash is Trash 0]

exactly

[Otti#8624 26]

That was apparently absolute hell to use even though it looked amazing

[Ash is Trash 0]

indeed

that's what happens when you make an engine while making a game

(it's surprising that this was the 3rd time that had happened, well 2nd if you ask someone else)

[Otti#8624 26]

Crystal Tools was similar, I think

Not sure what the third is