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[Leamax_1559862996 16]

Yes

[ElectriCole 5]

Interesting

That helps

[venommob12 2]

Reminds me of Elena from FF7 really, maybe a little bit of Fujin from FF8 too

[Sam N 10]

Girls in suits are always a win imo

[Snakeskin94 13]

Hell yeah dog, we speak the same language

So, like, Vanitas is a being of darkness, without being a Heartless basically. When he said he IS darkness that's not just campy writing, that's what he is lol that's why everyone thought he was "Darkness" in UX for a while.

[Sam N 10]

To explain it as simply as possible, Vanitas is the physical embodiment of the darkness that was stripped out of Ventus.

[ElectriCole 5]

So what about the heartless?

[Snakeskin94 13]

They're beings OF darkness

[ElectriCole 5]

Like a subset of darkness?

[Snakeskin94 13]

Darkness is a force, or like, an entity- a living concept. It has a consciousness basically.

The Heartless are beings OF darkness

But they aren't necessarily darkness itself.

[ElectriCole 5]

But Vanitas IS darkness itself taken physical form, correct?

[Snakeskin94 13]

Thats why when Riku unlocks Maleficents heart in KH1 she turns into a dragon, not a heartless.

Where as Marluxia and Larxene turned Gothel and Hans INTO heartlesses respectively.

Basically ye

[Sam N 10]

Heartless are animalistic beings that form whenever there is darkness to feed on; whether it’s inside or outside a person. The difference is that Unversed originate from Vanitas.

[ElectriCole 5]

Ok I think that makes sense. I need to make the distinction since one of my characters in my game is very similar to Vanitas and I would like to keep the logic of KH semi intact

[Snakeskin94 13]

Ok I have a good comparison actually.

Let's look at it like this

So furry's, right?

[ElectriCole 5]

Hold up

[Snakeskin94 13]

Let's say- WHAT

[ElectriCole 5]

Continue

[kylvex#0 0]

Lmao

[Snakeskin94 13]

So let's say someone has a Fox person as a fursona.

Well, they don't think they're actually a fox, but, they've taken the form of it.

The heartless are furries

And the enemy types are their fursonas

And the darkness is like the real foxes

Make sense?

[ElectriCole 5]

I-

I did not think that that furries would come up in this conversation but fair enough

It makes sense though

Has anyone played Celeste?

[Sam N 10]

That’s a very bizarre yet well articulated explanation

[Mys. Carrot 1]

wh—

fantastic game

10/10 cried very hard multiple times

[ElectriCole 5]

Incredible game. My favorite of all time

Anyways, Badeline is to Madeline as Vanitas is to Ventus.

That's the kind of logic I'm trying to go with

[Snakeskin94 13]

I've been told its amazing.