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[ScaryWalrus 0]

the most realistic life after death that I've seen discussed is where you're in a sort of state with no desire, physical or worldly and everything is a true peace because there is no love and there is no pain

That being said, the afterlife I want is one where I go into an isekai with a cheat power and get a harem

[Estoria#4001 19]

Harems are subjectively immoral

[ScaryWalrus 0]

then im subjectively immoral

[Noleen 7]

depends the country

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Well if we accept God exists, and we accept that he resides above the heavens (I think this is the case for some religions) and its accepted he gave humans free will to do as they please, then we also accept that there is a day of reckoning where he will give out justice.

I don't think it's expected that someone will just mosey on to the next life with no justice enacted if they have sinned. And I don't think religious rules, when boiled down to the basics, are uber complex. It's really just "don't be a douche"

As for someone who doesn't believe in God, doing good deeds all their life and still going to hell for their troubles, well I'm not a scholar at all but I feel like I should say, if you are aware that there's a school of thought that accepts the after life as real, and aware that there's one that doesn't, it doesn't cost you anything to believe in it. At worst, if it's not true, you'll die and that's it, at best, you would have made it to there

[Estoria#4001 19]

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Is Otti still here

[Estoria#4001 19]

Isn't that, like, extremely cynical though

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Well possibly

[2 quid is good 2,209]

But I think it's the simplest argument

[Aqua_Wren 11]

It does cost you to believe in it though. Also I'd say a benevolent god would prefer an honest life well lived to lip service paid out of something as cynical as "Well I lose nothing."

[Aqua_Wren 11]

Pascal's wager, which is the argument you just made, is extremely flawed.

[Aqua_Wren 11]

[Estoria#4001 19]

Is God really going to appreciate the fact that you believed in him and in the afterlife just because "it's better than believing the contrary"

[Otti#8624 26]

I am here

[Noleen 7]

does god really care ?

[Estoria#4001 19]

Oh right, I forgot it had a name

[Estoria#4001 19]

Depends on what you believe in

[Aqua_Wren 11]

It also doesn't account for the idea that Thor or Zeus might exist and not appreciate you worshipping a completely different god from a completely different religion.

[Estoria#4001 19]

Depends on what you believe in, Noleen

[Estoria#4001 19]

To you God doesn't care because he may as well not exist

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Well I'm not saying that it's appreciated or anything, I'm speaking from the pov of a human who might be making that choice

[Estoria#4001 19]

To others he exists and cares

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Well I'm not saying that it's appreciated or anything, I'm speaking from the pov of a human

[Noleen 7]

why would god kill people with coronavirus ? ?