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[Xendran#1406 1]

DDS1 dungeons are actually really cool, but the first 2 or 3 are pretty standard

the dungeons open up more later as well though with new areas and bosses

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

I played Nocturne for a bit and immediately realized it was too hardcore for me. Strange journey and digital devil saga seem to be the most welcoming

[Xendran#1406 1]

and the later dungeons are much more mazelike and interconnected

DDS and SMT4 are the most welcoming

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

Idk where soul hackers fits into that. Played some of it and it's firetrucking weird

[Xendran#1406 1]

SJ is really not, but some players really enjoy its etrian oddysey style gameplay so it doesnt grate on them

[Xendran#1406 1]

DDS1 and 2 are like one game btw

though 2 has much MUCH more refined combat and balance

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

The 3ds version of strange journey was honestly quite welcoming up til like end game

[Xendran#1406 1]

oh i havent tried 3ds version

[Xendran#1406 1]

only ds

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

Ahhh yeah

[Xendran#1406 1]

SMT4 starts off with an incredibly hard tutorial dungeon but then gets much easier

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

I've heard the 3ds version stream lines a lot of shit

[Xendran#1406 1]

Nocturne is one of those games where it has a great gaming experience in it, but it actively tries to stop you from having it

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

Lol

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

What does that mean

[Xendran#1406 1]

the game is much less than the sum of its parts unless you know what you are doing already

[Xendran#1406 1]

lets say you like fast characters who deal spike damage

[Xendran#1406 1]

you might go agility / luck for high speed, high accuracy, and high crit chance with low chance to be crit yourself

[Xendran#1406 1]

fun fact, these stat formulas in nocturne are so broken that they do close to nothing

[Xendran#1406 1]

at level 50 it takes 13 points of agility to increase accuracy by 1%

[OrpheusJoshua 126]

Holy shit

[Xendran#1406 1]

so if you make that build, you are essentially level 1 power but with all the downsides of level scaling formulas working against you

[Xendran#1406 1]

so you need to restart and make a strength build

[Xendran#1406 1]

if you make a magic build it starts out fine, then you hit a damage cap

[Xendran#1406 1]

so you need to grind and switch to a strength build