*Spoilers* KH3 Chat

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Oh god no.

[Estoria#4001 19]

KH1 is big and open, while KH3 is big but actually closed

Well, maybe not closed

But limited

[Marluxia#4918 9]

3's design philosophy is vertical design

[Novayon 192]

It's still linear, move where they don't want you and there's an invisible wall smacking your face. So there's the illusion of openness

And it is very vertical

But wall running makes it all simplistic as hell

[Marluxia#4918 9]

And yeah its still got linearity but also the worlds in 1 are very interconnected

[Estoria#4001 19]

Yeah, it makes it so that there's barely any platforming

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Theres not a lot of rooms leading back into each other in 3

[Novayon 192]

Yeah not really. I can forgive The Caribbean because it was going for something different, and it pulled it off

But the Islands themselves in the Caribbean? Still simple although there was some more open-endedness to them tbf

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Whereas in 1 a lot of the worlds do tend to connect to each other. They're quite self contained. Whereas in 3 they seem to stretch on endlessly. At least the illusion of endless because most areas just go in one direction

[Novayon 192]

Yep

A big space of emptiness is really no different from a small one

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Yeah. Deep Jungle is really cool in how it connects into each area. The treehouse is essentially this one big umbrella covering all the areas below it. If you fall off the left hand side as you run in you will fall into clayton's boss arena. If you fall off the other end you end up in either the tunnel or treetops

[Novayon 192]

Yeah, that's right

Despite the technical limitations, KH1 managed to make it feel like a single big area

Even if it's smoke and mirrors sometimes

KH2 didn't try, it was a collection of rooms loosely joined

And KH3 does feel like big areas, but not ones you can choose your way through. It's still a directed path

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Yeah level design is a major problem with 2. It's just a line of boxes placed beside one another

[Liftea 12]

kh3 is linear open world

[Novayon 192]

Obviously except BH6, Caribbean and Toy Box to a lesser extent

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Carribbean definitely not. BG6 is a tough one because the game kind of forces you to take a very linear path but the world itself is quite free

They really wanted you to kind of get the story over and done with in those 2 worlds I find. They are really short worlds and both of them direct you in a very strict manner so you never really explore the world

[Novayon 192]

Yeah and I get it would be hard to replicate KH1's interconnectivity whilst keeping less loading screens. But they could have had more secrets, more little gimmicks

Not just 10 cleverly designed lucky emblems and 80 slapped onto walls

[Marluxia#4918 9]

I was excited when I started finding secrets at the start of the olympus, especially when we broke down the statue(unfortunately it was just a chest) but it was a sparkle of hope

that faded as I went on

Omg yeah

[2 quid is good 2,209]

I see that you're talking about KH3 being for newcomers

[Liftea 12]

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Quid predicted this weeks before release

[Novayon 192]

I knew what you mean Marluxia

I was like "Oh cool there's a statue you can break"

"Ah, but nothing really is achieved by doing so"

[2 quid is good 2,209]

Ahh the achilles heel

Olympus feels like it was the beginning to a completely different game

[Liftea 12]

toy box has breakable stuff as well

tangled had these small events with rapunzel

but after that

[Marluxia#4918 9]

Toy box to be fair did have cool ones