Unsolved plots in KH3 (*Stay alert*)

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The ending of Kingdom Hearts 3 has closed up many topics, but we can't deny several others have taken their place. So, from now on, and until we get new updates from KH:UX or other sources, I believe we should keep in mind the unsolved topics in this story. Let's see:  
  

 

1º) At the ending, we saw Vexen back in Radiant Garden, working with Ansem the Wise and the others. Curiously, he seems to be Even again, recovering his humanity once more. Question is, how did it happen? Vexen wasn't seen during the battle between the 7 Lights and the 13 Darknesses, and it certainly didn't face Sora and his friends. So, someone must have destroyed him to revive as human. Who and how? The only explanation I see is that Master Xehanort eliminated him right after his ranks were completed.   
  
2º) We still don't know the mysterious secret around Marluxia, Larxene, Demyx and Luxord; mentioned by Xenmas. We know they were at the Keyblade War's era, but we haven't discovered how Xehanort found them and recruited them. We now about Marluxia (Lauriam) and Larxene's (Elrena) past, but we still havent seen the past selves of Demyx and Luxord.   
  
3º) Marluxia, Larxene and Luxord were defeated and destroyed, which means they must have been restored as humans. The question is, where are they now? According to past events, when you are restored as human, you reappear at the same place where you were divided into Heartless and Nobody. So, where could they be now? Demyx has the same problem than Vexen, he wasn't seen being defeated by no one, so if he has been restored as a human too, we don't only know where, but how neither.   
  
4º) We have to explore the mystery about who the mysterious girl named "X" was, the one that Axel/Lea and Saix/Isa met and befriended before Sora's adventure started. We have several candidates, but without any clear information, we can't have anything for sure.   
  
5º) Many of the characters who were trapped in a suffering has been rescued; like Roxas, Namine, Terra, Aqua... etc. However, there's still one character we should stay in mind: "Repliku", the first Replica of Riku. He sacrified himself to remove his dark self from its Replica body and disappeared in a cloud of light and darkness. However, I don't think we have seen the last of him. I have the feeling that, what happened to him, is just the opposite of Ventus. I mean, Ventus was divided into Light (himself) and Darkness (Vanitas). But Repliku was purified into an entity of Light, and then removed his "Dark self" out of the picture. If this Light and its own Darkness have combined themselves, they could give birth to a new being; and possibly their own body, not even needing a Replica for it.   
  
6º) Just like Repliku, we have another Replica to keep in mind: Data-Sora. We don't know what happened with him after Coded, but since it turned into something more than data, I want to believe Mickey didn't have the guts to just "turn him off". If he's still "alive", he could become the new "key" to rescue the real Sora after his disappearance from KH-III. I believe this Sora could also exist in the real world if they "download him" into a Replica body.   
  
7º) What happened with the Lingering Will? His appearance was crucial to avoid a disaster to strike once more, but we didn't see the resolve of his battle against Terranort. We could assume he was "reabsorbed" somehow by the real Terra; but if not, then where is he? I doubt he was destroyed, because he survived a whole decade waiting to avenge Aqua and Ventus. So, where is he? Maybe he's still in the Keyblade Graveyard?  
  
8º) We saw all the members of the Organization XIII being defeated and destroyed; or that's what we thought. We now know Xigbar/Luxu tricked us, but I believe maybe he wasn't the only one. I believe Vanitas could still be alive somehow, and he could return in the future. How?, well, remember that Light and Darkness can't exist without the other. So, since Ventus and Vanitas are Light and Darkness of a same entity, that must means that while one of them is alive, the other one will stay alive too. And since he looks like "evil Sora", his potential is enormous.   
  
9º) I don't know where or what was th eplace named "The Secret Forest", where Kairi and Lea trained, but we should explore it in the future. It looks like a "key" place similar to Twilight Town, Traverse Town or Destiny Islands.  
  
10º) Has Ventus started to remember his past in KH:UX? When he talked with Aqua, Ventus mentioned his own friends, Sora's friends, Sora's Dream Eater pals and "a bunch of people he didn't recognize". I bet he was talking about the people he knew back in KH:UX. And at the ending, we saw Ventus' Chirity reunited with him. How was this even possible? How did Chirithy arrive to that place? We need an explanation.

 

  
So, what do you think of this unsolved plots?

Edited February 11, 2019 by Ursalink

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

Good job man kh3 has dlc or sequel written all over it so i am very very curious to see what happens the coming months

[ocean's rage 774]

i think vanitas was one of the time travelling members and was sent back in time to when he was defeated by ven

[Cloaked Assassin 1]

Thematically, let add No.11

Who is Nameless Star? Union X's followers would have a solid idea. Was she referring to who many think she is referring to? If so, has he regained his full memory and what did he remember prior since he seems to have a different expression than the other three as far as the second point is concerned.

No.12

Relatably, how much does Larxene remember? She clearly does not remember the keyblade legacy stuff, but was her relationship with Marluxia etched into her heart? She seems to remember that part, but has she always remember or did she just regain her memory?

No. 13

Might be 'resolved' or explained or just up to interpretation, or might just be confirmed in the Ultimania to come. Were some of the final 13 being controlled in the final battle? How aware and themselves were they at the time? Marluxia, Larxene, and Saix did not say a single word (bar battle quotes) until they are defeated. The former two also look and touch/grab themselves like treasuring their consciousnesses/identities. They and Xemnas also look at their hands (or hand gestures) after defeat.

[corpiman 26]

9 hours ago, Ursalink said:

My answers
  

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1º) At the ending, we saw Vexen back in Radiant Garden, working with Ansem the Wise and the others. Curiously, he seems to be Even again, recovering his humanity once more. Question is, how did it happen? Vexen wasn't seen during the battle between the 7 Lights and the 13 Darknesses, and it certainly didn't face Sora and his friends. So, someone must have destroyed him to revive as human. Who and how? The only explanation I see is that Master Xehanort eliminated him right after his ranks were completed.   
It doesn't really matter his reason to become a nobody again was to infiltrate the new organization and recover the data on replicas, so at the and he could've literally asked anyone to "defeat" him to help him be whole again  

2º) We still don't know the mysterious secret around Marluxia, Larxene, Demyx and Luxord; mentioned by Xenmas. We know they were at the Keyblade War's era, but we haven't discovered how Xehanort found them and recruited them. We now about Marluxia (Lauriam) and Larxene's (Elrena) past, but we still havent seen the past selves of Demyx and Luxord.   

We will probably find out more as Union Cross' story progresses, or even in the next console game it was pretty stablished that is the next thread we will follow
  
3º) Marluxia, Larxene and Luxord were defeated and destroyed, which means they must have been restored as humans. The question is, where are they now? According to past events, when you are restored as human, you reappear at the same place where you were divided into Heartless and Nobody. So, where could they be now? Demyx has the same problem than Vexen, he wasn't seen being defeated by no one, so if he has been restored as a human too, we don't only know where, but how neither.

It doesn't seem relevant as of yet if they don't make a point of it we can just assume they were at some point attacked by heartless (maybe they were also near ansem the wise's castle at that point, who knows  
  
4º) We have to explore the mystery about who the mysterious girl named "X" was, the one that Axel/Lea and Saix/Isa met and befriended before Sora's adventure started. We have several candidates, but without any clear information, we can't have anything for sure.   

Yup, setup for future games, current candidates are Ava, Skuld and to a lesser extent, Strelitzia (but she most likely being the nameless star makes this unlikely) My guess is that it is Skuld, but again we should pay attention to UX
  
5º) Many of the characters who were trapped in a suffering has been rescued; like Roxas, Namine, Terra, Aqua... etc. However, there's still one character we should stay in mind: "Repliku", the first Replica of Riku. He sacrified himself to remove his dark self from its Replica body and disappeared in a cloud of light and darkness. However, I don't think we have seen the last of him. I have the feeling that, what happened to him, is just the opposite of Ventus. I mean, Ventus was divided into Light (himself) and Darkness (Vanitas). But Repliku was purified into an entity of Light, and then removed his "Dark self" out of the picture. If this Light and its own Darkness have combined themselves, they could give birth to a new being; and possibly their own body, not even needing a Replica for it.   
 Nah Repliku, decided more like vanish or at least keep wandering as a heart but most likely he choose to "move on" as he says to riku he doesn't need to be around anymore since the world already has him

6º) Just like Repliku, we have another Replica to keep in mind: Data-Sora. We don't know what happened with him after Coded, but since it turned into something more than data, I want to believe Mickey didn't have the guts to just "turn him off". If he's still "alive", he could become the new "key" to rescue the real Sora after his disappearance from KH-III. I believe this Sora could also exist in the real world if they "download him" into a Replica body.   

He probably is still in the computer, he truly is just a program made to explore the journal
  
7º) What happened with the Lingering Will? His appearance was crucial to avoid a disaster to strike once more, but we didn't see the resolve of his battle against Terranort. We could assume he was "reabsorbed" somehow by the real Terra; but if not, then where is he? I doubt he was destroyed, because he survived a whole decade waiting to avenge Aqua and Ventus. So, where is he? Maybe he's still in the Keyblade Graveyard?  

We can assume he fuses with Terra offscreen since his whole deal is that he is terra's will that ties him to the realm of light until xehanort is defeated
  
8º) We saw all the members of the Organization XIII being defeated and destroyed; or that's what we thought. We now know Xigbar/Luxu tricked us, but I believe maybe he wasn't the only one. I believe Vanitas could still be alive somehow, and he could return in the future. How?, well, remember that Light and Darkness can't exist without the other. So, since Ventus and Vanitas are Light and Darkness of a same entity, that must means that while one of them is alive, the other one will stay alive too. And since he looks like "evil Sora", his potential is enormous.

Nah, he is most likely gone for good, he would return to his own time when he was defeat and since he is not a nobody like almost everyone else, he doesn't have an original self to go back to, look at the cutscene when he disappears, there "effects" are different than the other members  
  
9º) I don't know where or what was th eplace named "The Secret Forest", where Kairi and Lea trained, but we should explore it in the future. It looks like a "key" place similar to Twilight Town, Traverse Town or Destiny Islands.  

Just a "pocket" dimension that Merlin and the fairies can get to, like the hyperbolic time chamber in dbz
  
10º) Has Ventus started to remember his past in KH:UX? When he talked with Aqua, Ventus mentioned his own friends, Sora's friends, Sora's Dream Eater pals and "a bunch of people he didn't recognize". I bet he was talking about the people he knew back in KH:UX. And at the ending, we saw Ventus' Chirity reunited with him. How was this even possible? How did Chirithy arrive to that place? We need an explanation.d

I HAVE NO IDEA AND I HATE THE WHOLE IDEA OF VENTUS BEING IN UX (also it might be the lighting in that scene, but are we sure it is the same chirithy we see in the final world? look at their capes, the one's in the final world is gray and the that goes with Ven has a green cape, but again it could be because of the light)

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cloaked Assassin said:

Thematically, let add No.11

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Who is Nameless Star? Union X's followers would have a solid idea. Was she referring to who many think she is referring to? If so, has he regained his full memory and what did he remember prior since he seems to have a different expression than the other three as far as the second point is concerned.

 

No.12

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Relatably, how much does Larxene remember? She clearly does not remember the keyblade legacy stuff, but was her relationship with Marluxia etched into her heart? She seems to remember that part, but has she always remember or did she just regain her memory?

 

No. 13

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Might be 'resolved' or explained or just up to interpretation, or might just be confirmed in the Ultimania to come. Were some of the final 13 being controlled in the final battle? How aware and themselves were they at the time? Marluxia, Larxene, and Saix did not say a single word (bar battle quotes) until they are defeated. The former two also look and touch/grab themselves like treasuring their consciousnesses/identities. They and Xemnas also look at their hands (or hand gestures) after defeat.

 

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for No.11 and No.12 That seems to be the tease for future games

No.13 it does seem to appear they were being controlled, Larxene, Luxord, Marluxia, and even Saix (to a lesser extent even Xemnas and Ansem) seemed kinda grateful Sora defeated them, like they were finally allowed to feel and remember who they were

And surprised no one mentioned it but

No.14

The "Wild card Luxord gives Sora

I believe the next game (be it kh4 or w/e) will be about the "price" Sora had to pay for abusing the power of waking, and the reason that he disappears after allegedly rescuing Kairi, maybe that card will help him return 

 

 

[ocean's rage 774]

2 hours ago, corpiman said:

 

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for No.11 and No.12 That seems to be the tease for future games

No.13 it does seem to appear they were being controlled, Larxene, Luxord, Marluxia, and even Saix (to a lesser extent even Xemnas and Ansem) seemed kinda grateful Sora defeated them, like they were finally allowed to feel and remember who they were

And surprised no one mentioned it but

No.14

The "Wild card Luxord gives Sora

I believe the next game (be it kh4 or w/e) will be about the "price" Sora had to pay for abusing the power of waking, and the reason that he disappears after allegedly rescuing Kairi, maybe that card will help him return 

 

 

i think him disappearing was the price and i think the card was just a symbolic gesture

[corpiman 26]

7 minutes ago, ocean's rage said:

 

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i think him disappearing was the price and i think the card was just a symbolic gesture

 

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yes it definitely was the price like young xehanort said

but the card was explicitly said that it was something that could change the tides, being called a "wild card" meaning anything could happen, and he was said to hang on to in, it will definitely come into play

 

 

[ocean's rage 774]

3 hours ago, corpiman said:

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yes it definitely was the price like young xehanort said

but the card was explicitly said that it was something that could change the tides, being called a "wild card" meaning anything could happen, and he was said to hang on to in, it will definitely come into play

 

 

im fairly certain he was meaning sora was the wild card that could make anything happen

[corpiman 26]

14 minutes ago, ocean's rage said:

 

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im fairly certain he was meaning sora was the wild card that could make anything happen

 

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Nah Sora literally asks "what's THIS" 

Luxord: A wild card, you've earned it, hang on to it, could turn the tables

refering that IT (the card) will be important

OK

I'VE LITERALLY JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS

So we know that luxord can trap people in his cards right? (like mickey or turn sora into dice during their fight in kh2) soooo what if that Wild card contains someone...someone from the distant past, that apparently as Xemnas indicated Luxord was originally involved with the past as just like Marluxia and Larxene

Even if it this theory isn't the case I'm sure the card itself will play a role

 

 

[ocean's rage 774]

10 hours ago, corpiman said:

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Nah Sora literally asks "what's THIS" 

Luxord: A wild card, you've earned it, hang on to it, could turn the tables

refering that IT (the card) will be important

OK

I'VE LITERALLY JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THIS

So we know that luxord can trap people in his cards right? (like mickey or turn sora into dice during their fight in kh2) soooo what if that Wild card contains someone...someone from the distant past, that apparently as Xemnas indicated Luxord was originally involved with the past as just like Marluxia and Larxene

Even if it this theory isn't the case I'm sure the card itself will play a role

 

 

well im sticking with that it was just a metaphor

 

[VisitJoan 2,713]

I don’t think Even ever turned back into a Nobody.  He was just given the name Vexen while he worked with the Organization, and then double crossed them from there.

[Ursalink 114]

On 2/12/2019 at 11:55 PM, VisitJoan said:

 

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I don’t think Even ever turned back into a Nobody.  He was just given the name Vexen while he worked with the Organization, and then double crossed them from there.

 

You are wrong, he WAS turned into a Nobody again. The yellow eyes of Xehanort was a clue, although I don't get how Xehanort didn't know about his treachery in the first place. Besides, Vexen could control Nobodies (regular Dusks) and use them to rescue Ansem the Wise from Ansem SoD. Not to mention he also had the ability to disappear through the Dark Corridors.

On 2/11/2019 at 5:36 PM, Cloaked Assassin said:

Thematically, let add No.11

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Who is Nameless Star? Union X's followers would have a solid idea. Was she referring to who many think she is referring to? If so, has he regained his full memory and what did he remember prior since he seems to have a different expression than the other three as far as the second point is concerned.

 

No.12

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Relatably, how much does Larxene remember? She clearly does not remember the keyblade legacy stuff, but was her relationship with Marluxia etched into her heart? She seems to remember that part, but has she always remember or did she just regain her memory?

 

No. 13

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Might be 'resolved' or explained or just up to interpretation, or might just be confirmed in the Ultimania to come. Were some of the final 13 being controlled in the final battle? How aware and themselves were they at the time? Marluxia, Larxene, and Saix did not say a single word (bar battle quotes) until they are defeated. The former two also look and touch/grab themselves like treasuring their consciousnesses/identities. They and Xemnas also look at their hands (or hand gestures) after defeat.

 

Thanks, pal. I forgot about these points. 

On 2/11/2019 at 6:37 PM, corpiman said:

 

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for No.11 and No.12 That seems to be the tease for future games

No.13 it does seem to appear they were being controlled, Larxene, Luxord, Marluxia, and even Saix (to a lesser extent even Xemnas and Ansem) seemed kinda grateful Sora defeated them, like they were finally allowed to feel and remember who they were

And surprised no one mentioned it but

No.14

The "Wild card Luxord gives Sora

I believe the next game (be it kh4 or w/e) will be about the "price" Sora had to pay for abusing the power of waking, and the reason that he disappears after allegedly rescuing Kairi, maybe that card will help him return 

 

 

I don't know about Nº 14, pal.   

I believe it could actually be like Aqua's spell on Kairi when she was little. An insignificant gesture now, but it could have an important role in the future.

[corpiman 26]

10 hours ago, Ursalink said:

I don't know about Nº 14, pal.   

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I believe it could actually be like Aqua's spell on Kairi when she was little. An insignificant gesture now, but it could have an important role in the future.

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...yes that's exactly what it is, it is setup for future games, Aqua's spell wasn't insignificant, it is the reason she reached the destiny islands after radiant garden was turned into hollow bastion instead of traverse town

It is something meant to help Sora in the future, that's why he specifically told him to hang on to it, but considering luxord's powers of sealing people into cards and the fact that he like marluxia and larxene seems to be connected to the past in some way, who knows, maybe the card contains someone from long ago who will know how to help Sora (Ava?..wouldn't that be something? since I believe that the X girl is Skuld, not Ava, but it's too soon to speculate about that)

 

 

Edited February 15, 2019 by corpiman

[Allwil13 754]

Honestly, my biggest question is the following:

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What happened to Demyx????? We saw Even at the ending when Namine woke up in her own body, but Demyx appears to have just... up and vanished. 

Also, I personally think that Lea/Axel and Isa's nameless friend was either an amnesiac Ava or Strelitzia. I definitely think that Ava has ties to at least one of the main characters. Honestly, I just reeeeeally want to know where Ava and Demyx are. 

Also, does anybody else suspect that Strelitzia was the mysterious spirit that Sora talked to after talking to Namine in the Final World?

 

[Mkucherina 84]

 

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I wonder which of the new union leaders Luxu picked to give his keyblade to