The organization members

[Georgewhut 0]

As we all know so far, the members of the true organization are:

Xehanort

Ansem seeker of darkness.

Xemnas.

Young xehanort.

Marluxia.

Vanitas.

Larxene.

Xigbar.

Vexen.

Demyx.

Luxord.

Data Riku or repliku.

And Xion.

So, I believe that there is at least 1 person that will change sides, obviously the majority wants it to be Xion, but I believe that she is a 2.0 version of Xion created by vexen, with no emotions, so she is out of the picture,         The person I believe that will change sides and help Sora is non other than Young xehanort, from the last trailer, we saw that he gives him advice on who to go after by telling him "find the hearts joined to yours" and warning him that his rash way of using his power will be his Downfall, further more in the opening cinematic we see a slightly younger version of him with dark gray eyes watching over a purple Myst that resembles Darkness, indicating that he had been possessed by it, I don't really know how he will change his course of actions, but my gut tells me that he will be the one to change sides.

If anyone has an other person in mind comment here and let's discuss ?

Edited December 25, 2018 by Ventus_
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[PrinceNoctis 1,011]

What a twist that would be! I would love that. I do think it was weird how YMX seemed to be helping Sora in the latest trailer. That being said, Xion hasn't been confirmed as an Organization member (it could've been Roxas...or someone totally unexpected). I think it'll either be Repliku/Data-Riku or Vanitas. The trailer showed Marluxia, Larxene, Luxord, Demyx and Vexen standing on pillars in the Keyblade Graveyard so I think they're pretty much confirmed to stay in the Organization 'til the end (if this happens in the end-game portion). We know Xehanort, Ansem and Xemnas are the OGs of the Organization so it won't be them. So that leaves YMX, Riku, Vanitas and Xion or whoever's under the hood. Can't wait to see who it'll be.

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

You raise a good point when you assume that someone could.chanhe sides. Surely xehanort must have some people as quasi Organisation members in chase Something like that happens. After all we are talking about the master planer here it would be extremly absurd if after all this he had no backup plan

Edited December 21, 2018 by Dustin Lübbers

[SweetYetSalty 330]

Young Xehanort switching sides would be quite unexpected. Perhaps his older self creeps him out and wants to change his future? Nah, but I do expect there to be another internal conflict with the Seekers like with the original XIII. It's Xehanorts own fault for letting in two traitors.

[JTD95 1,107]

You forgot Saix on your list. I also dont believe yet that Demyx and Vexen are a part of the new Organization. Something about the scenes I’ve seen with them so far just doesnt seem right. I know Demyx stands with them at the beginning of the final battle trailer but I just dont see him as a returning member.

[Georgewhut 0]

9 hours ago, JTD95 said:

You forgot Saix on your list. I also dont believe yet that Demyx and Vexen are a part of the new Organization. Something about the scenes I’ve seen with them so far just doesnt seem right. I know Demyx stands with them at the beginning of the final battle trailer but I just dont see him as a returning member.

You're right... I totally forgot about him.... That actually makes makes two people that could change sides, but I will stand firm on my first pick,

+ I have been thinking that vexen and demyx are spies from the start, that work with ansem a.k.a Diz.

[ITzDarthLordRevan 291]

We saw Terranort in the Winnie the Pooh trailer at some point as well. Does he count as a vessel too or not?

[ienzo628 548]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:31 AM, Dustin Lübbers said:

You raise a good point when you assume that someone could.chanhe sides. Surely xehanort must have some people as quasi Organisation members in chase Something like that happens. After all we are talking about the master planer here it would be extremly absurd if after all this he had no backup plan

What is the possibility that there might be a mole in the Guardians.   We could have traitors on both sides, though I hope not. 

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

16 hours ago, SweetYetSalty said:

Young Xehanort switching sides would be quite unexpected. Perhaps his older self creeps him out and wants to change his future? Nah, but I do expect there to be another internal conflict with the Seekers like with the original XIII. It's Xehanorts own fault for letting in two traitors.

But that would lead to a time Paradox

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

1 hour ago, ienzo628 said:

What is the possibility that there might be a mole in the Guardians.   We could have traitors on both sides, though I hope not. 

Kinda strange that with all the magic and stuff there isnt a way to test a persons heart

[ienzo628 548]

2 minutes ago, Dustin Lübbers said:

Kinda strange that with all the magic and stuff there isn't a way to test a persons heart

Exactly and how would Sora know who is good or bad?  He is too trusting.

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

2 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Exactly and how would Sora know who is good or bad?  He is too trusting.

All of the human keyblade warriors are

[ienzo628 548]

3 minutes ago, Dustin Lübbers said:

All of the human keyblade warriors are

Pretty much, Sora is skeptical of YX though.  I don't think YX would double cross MX though.  He is MX after all and whatever he does will inevitably affect MX, right?

[ITzDarthLordRevan 291]

17 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Pretty much, Sora is skeptical of YX though.  I don't think YX would double cross MX though.  He is MX after all and whatever he does will inevitably affect MX, right?

I assume so. You can't go back in time to physically change things that already happened since that's one of the rules of time travel in this universe. I'm sure if YX changed his own mind in his own time that would be about the only thing that can change the future.

Edited December 26, 2018 by ITzDarthLordRevan

[Dustin Lübbers 933]

45 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Pretty much, Sora is skeptical of YX though.  I don't think YX would double cross MX though.  He is MX after all and whatever he does will inevitably affect MX, right?

Yea but the only reason he was skeptical was because he had the Organisation clothes. Should have worn a normal outfit than he could have tricked him easy

[ienzo628 548]

12 minutes ago, Dustin Lübbers said:

Yea but the only reason he was skeptical was because he had the Organization clothes. Should have worn a normal outfit than he could have tricked him easy

Pretty much, though I do wonder if Sora trusts Lea even though he wears the same coat as YX.

[SweetYetSalty 330]

6 hours ago, ienzo628 said:

What is the possibility that there might be a mole in the Guardians.   We could have traitors on both sides, though I hope not. 

Lea would be the only one who I could see as a potential mole on the Guardians. It could be what his meeting with Isa leads to. I imagine this would put a strain on his new friendship with Kairi. Everybody else has a axe to grind with Xehanort or one of his forms. Lea is the only one who in theory would benefit from switching sides.

[ienzo628 548]

7 hours ago, SweetYetSalty said:

Lea would be the only one who I could see as a potential mole on the Guardians. It could be what his meeting with Isa leads to. I imagine this would put a strain on his new friendship with Kairi. Everybody else has a axe to grind with Xehanort or one of his forms. Lea is the only one who in theory would benefit from switching sides.

But, I don't think he would necessarily switch the MX because the Org cost him his best friend. 

[ITzDarthLordRevan 291]

Why would Lea want to throw away his friendship with Roxas and the others just to be with Isa again? I get that that they were best friends, but couldn't that scene also mean that there's a possiblity Isa might betray them at the very end or even may have Xehanort pulled out of him at the very end of the game?

[ienzo628 548]

12 minutes ago, ITzDarthLordRevan said:

Why would Lea want to throw away his friendship with Roxas and the others just to be with Isa again? I get that that they were best friends, but couldn't that scene also mean that there's a possibility Isa might betray them at the very end or even may have Xehanort pulled out of him at the very end of the game?

I think that's more likely.  I really don't want to see Lea turn out to be a turn coat.  I can see Isa pretending to be a mole to get on the Guardian's good side.

[ITzDarthLordRevan 291]

5 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

I think that's more likely.  I really don't want to see Lea turn out to be a turn coat.  I can see Isa pretending to be a mole to get on the Guardian's good side.

Especially if he wants to make up with Lea. That one scene with Xemnas obliterating Lea with those same lasers he used KH2 with Isa in the background staring at Lea in his Beserk form made me think he may or may not attack Xemnas in that scene. I don't know how he would be able to bare seeing his once best friend in pain like that.

[Allwil13 754]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if more than one person switched sides. It seems like Isa is having second thoughts about his decision to assist Xehanort, judging by that conversation he has with Lea in the Final Battle trailer. And I agree that it seems like Young Xehanort might be a little shaky loyalty-wise as well. And I'm also personally hoping that Vanitas will try and turn towards the light, but I know that's a long shot. And then you have Braig, who's a total wild card; we still have no idea what his plan is. 

[ienzo628 548]

2 minutes ago, ITzDarthLordRevan said:

Especially if he wants to make up with Lea. That one scene with Xemnas obliterating Lea with those same lasers he used KH2 with Isa in the background staring at Lea in his Beserk form made me think he may or may not attack Xemnas in that scene. I don't know how he would be able to bare seeing his once best friend in pain like that.

It should be interesting seeing Isa attack Xemnas in berserk mode.

[Potato head harvey 70]

26 minutes ago, ITzDarthLordRevan said:

Especially if he wants to make up with Lea. That one scene with Xemnas obliterating Lea with those same lasers he used KH2 with Isa in the background staring at Lea in his Beserk form made me think he may or may not attack Xemnas in that scene. I don't know how he would be able to bare seeing his once best friend in pain like that.

That would be real ballsy, putting that in a trailer.

[clatter411 75]

On 12/26/2018 at 5:11 PM, Allwil13 said:

I actually wouldn't be surprised if more than one person switched sides. It seems like Isa is having second thoughts about his decision to assist Xehanort, judging by that conversation he has with Lea in the Final Battle trailer. And I agree that it seems like Young Xehanort might be a little shaky loyalty-wise as well. And I'm also personally hoping that Vanitas will try and turn towards the light, but I know that's a long shot. And then you have Braig, who's a total wild card; we still have no idea what his plan is. 

It would be interesting, but I don't know about Isa attacking Xemnas. Out of every organization member he always came across as the one with the most loyalty to Xehanort. I think Lea hopes Isa is still in there somewhere but I just get the feeling he's long gone and if anything the scene is more of a representation of how little of Isa there is left. 

Edited December 29, 2018 by clatter411